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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 07 2009 14:13 GMT
#881
On June 07 2009 23:02 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
I thought SDM's nerdrage was pretty justified, I mean bringing Idrama to SKorea was in hope to bring back foreigners into the SC scene and while he seems to be improving, aside from his CJ face he doesn't seem to learn from his BM'ing mistakes.

'cause honestly it's really hard to take someone seriously when you know he could call you a fucking scrub at any moment.


Youre right except he wasnt bming tarson at all.
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Krigstar
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden77 Posts
June 07 2009 15:08 GMT
#882
On June 07 2009 22:51 7mk wrote:
Yes he hadnt done that until that point because as I said in my post at least up to this game he didnt have any fucking reason to, so your post still doesnt make any sense, why do I have to repeat myself about this.

It's like person #1 saying "A" then person #2 saying "but A doesnt make sense because "B"
and then person #1 says ".... yeah but... A"

About JWD, aha, well I disagree with him but no surprise I didnt read it since it must have been in a different thread since it says he wrote it at 20:47.

And Tossgirl is certainly in a few events now for other reasons than her skill but she didnt just magically appear, she got where she is by being the best female sc player there is.
Just as Idra being is a bonus but theyre not doing this kind of thing just for fun. After all Estro/Daniel Lee got him there and theyre not gonna spend money on him so that ogn / mbc is gonna have higher ratings for one show or because therell be a few more people who like estro.
Youre right, the discussion about whether Idra is the worst/2nd worst/3rd worst whatever player is stupid, thanks for agreeing with what I said, just dont make it sound like you know shit.

And man all those arguments are just repeating itself:
Idra has bad attitude, Daniel Lee got him there etc.

General bs which might be true but that doesnt have to do anything with this thread: which is what happened in valour tournament, and in this instance, Idra barely did anything wrong, he just used a fucking swear word and didnt deserve to be humiliated like that.


I feel I have to repeat my arguments too so obviously there is a misunderstanding. You don't need to insult me since we seem to discuss different things. If you think the discussion is about this incident only then yes I agree with you 100 %. Idra didn' do much wrong except swearing and Daniel overexaggerated. Agree completely.

But I find it rather worthless to make that statement when there are so many obvious incididents that lead up to this. If we ignore all things that Idra has done in the past then yes, Idra looks fairly innocent here, but anyone who has followed Idras games in the past and still feels he is a victim here is extremely ignorant. Also, I think it's very unfair to say that Daniel humiliated Idra when he merely exaggerated some facts. He said he had to beg for his progamer license and was the worst progamer. The fact is that the license was given to him and he is merely among the worst, not THE worst. I think that insult is very tiny compared to all the nerdrage Idra has thrown around during the years and making Idra a victim here is laughable. How can anyone sympathize with Idra here :D Seriously, have you not seen Idras games before?

Daniel has been around since before Grrrr won the first starleague and he hasn't ever talked like this about ANY other player in any other broadcast. That should tell you something about Idra.

Also, I quoted JWD on the wrong date. I just copy pasted another quote and put in JWD's quotes from this thread. I'm not going to say anything more about that, but the quotes are in this thread and that's a fact. Look it up yourself if you don't believe me for the third time and sorry again for putting wrong time on the quotes.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 07 2009 15:50 GMT
#883
On June 08 2009 00:08 Krigstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2009 22:51 7mk wrote:
Yes he hadnt done that until that point because as I said in my post at least up to this game he didnt have any fucking reason to, so your post still doesnt make any sense, why do I have to repeat myself about this.

It's like person #1 saying "A" then person #2 saying "but A doesnt make sense because "B"
and then person #1 says ".... yeah but... A"

About JWD, aha, well I disagree with him but no surprise I didnt read it since it must have been in a different thread since it says he wrote it at 20:47.

And Tossgirl is certainly in a few events now for other reasons than her skill but she didnt just magically appear, she got where she is by being the best female sc player there is.
Just as Idra being is a bonus but theyre not doing this kind of thing just for fun. After all Estro/Daniel Lee got him there and theyre not gonna spend money on him so that ogn / mbc is gonna have higher ratings for one show or because therell be a few more people who like estro.
Youre right, the discussion about whether Idra is the worst/2nd worst/3rd worst whatever player is stupid, thanks for agreeing with what I said, just dont make it sound like you know shit.

And man all those arguments are just repeating itself:
Idra has bad attitude, Daniel Lee got him there etc.

General bs which might be true but that doesnt have to do anything with this thread: which is what happened in valour tournament, and in this instance, Idra barely did anything wrong, he just used a fucking swear word and didnt deserve to be humiliated like that.


I feel I have to repeat my arguments too so obviously there is a misunderstanding. You don't need to insult me since we seem to discuss different things. If you think the discussion is about this incident only then yes I agree with you 100 %. Idra didn' do much wrong except swearing and Daniel overexaggerated. Agree completely.

But I find it rather worthless to make that statement when there are so many obvious incididents that lead up to this. If we ignore all things that Idra has done in the past then yes, Idra looks fairly innocent here, but anyone who has followed Idras games in the past and still feels he is a victim here is extremely ignorant. Also, I think it's very unfair to say that Daniel humiliated Idra when he merely exaggerated some facts. He said he had to beg for his progamer license and was the worst progamer. The fact is that the license was given to him and he is merely among the worst, not THE worst. I think that insult is very tiny compared to all the nerdrage Idra has thrown around during the years and making Idra a victim here is laughable. How can anyone sympathize with Idra here :D Seriously, have you not seen Idras games before?

Daniel has been around since before Grrrr won the first starleague and he hasn't ever talked like this about ANY other player in any other broadcast. That should tell you something about Idra.

Also, I quoted JWD on the wrong date. I just copy pasted another quote and put in JWD's quotes from this thread. I'm not going to say anything more about that, but the quotes are in this thread and that's a fact. Look it up yourself if you don't believe me for the third time and sorry again for putting wrong time on the quotes.


And weeh again I have to repeat myself, Daniel had never dealt with any of the bm from Idra in the past, therefore your post still doesnt make sense.
And come on just think for a second about how youd feel if someones talks about you like that in front of several thousand people when you cant even defend yourself. "He merely exaggerated some facts" ... bs, just the tone in which daniel did it etc.... honestly if that had happened to me id feel like shit.

And I dont' even like Idra.
But in this instance he doesnt deserve the crap people give him.
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silynxer
Profile Joined April 2006
Germany439 Posts
June 07 2009 15:51 GMT
#884
So basically you are saying even if Idra had not spoken a word (other than gg) it would have been allright for DL to do what he did on a live cast?
sprawlers
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway439 Posts
June 07 2009 16:04 GMT
#885
Krigstar, In general I find idra to be an annoying nerdrager, and SDM to be an ok commentator that works well with tasteless, in this tournament/game however, Idra did nothing wrong.

In this instance SDM acted like a whiny bitch while on air, badmouthing idra when he had no chance to defend himself. Calling him the worst progamer in korea is about as much a kick to the balls as he could come up with. You seem to think that because idra has acted like a jerk for no reason ingame in tons of other cases, SDM should act like just as much a jerk now. 2 wrongs doesn't make 1 right.

How do you know how SDM talks about others, did you have him on a mic when (insert x foreigner in estro here) ran away from the progaming house to live of poker? Or do you know how he would have talked if he knew about shit like when elky scammed the foreigner scene for however many dollars?
All your post is about is like, hey this is idra, he is baaaaad. look how bm he is, how can you support someone like this? He is mean. I don't like him. You have no arguments about idras actions in the valor tournament, which is what is appropriate for this thread. Bringing up everything else Idra has done, isn't relevant to SDM reaction and just makes this thread a clutterfest.
Also, a statement being a fact doesn't make it not an insult. If I said daniel lee was the worst starcraft pro-team trainer in korea, the fact that it was true/almost true wouldn't make it not an insult.

I was honestly embarrassed to see such a reaction from a grown-up professional commentator. Oh, I don't like this guy, so I'm just not gonna commentate, ruining the whole cast for the viewers. Fucking ironic as he sat there whining about the players lack of professionalism.

Don't excuse me from the profanity, excuse me from a commentator punishing me, the viewer, because his ego got hurt.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 07 2009 17:27 GMT
#886
Amen
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Idle
Profile Joined May 2009
Korea (South)124 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 18:04:16
June 07 2009 17:58 GMT
#887
On June 07 2009 23:13 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2009 23:02 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
I thought SDM's nerdrage was pretty justified, I mean bringing Idrama to SKorea was in hope to bring back foreigners into the SC scene and while he seems to be improving, aside from his CJ face he doesn't seem to learn from his BM'ing mistakes.

'cause honestly it's really hard to take someone seriously when you know he could call you a fucking scrub at any moment.


Youre right except he wasnt bming tarson at all.


I keep seeing this. How is telling somebody their build orders and cheese strats are terrible not bm? "I never fe vs a white terran," and at least koreans "do smart stuff so i can guess what it is and counter it." "I can't imagine why you didn't expect that" in reference to tarson commenting that it was unfortunate for him that he scouted the 2port. He basically insinuated that Tarson was stupid. It seems to me a lot of people didn't or can't read the chat (it is very blurry so I can understand) and just caught the swearing and thought that was what it was all about.
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 18:32:46
June 07 2009 18:28 GMT
#888
On June 08 2009 02:58 Idle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2009 23:13 7mk wrote:
On June 07 2009 23:02 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
I thought SDM's nerdrage was pretty justified, I mean bringing Idrama to SKorea was in hope to bring back foreigners into the SC scene and while he seems to be improving, aside from his CJ face he doesn't seem to learn from his BM'ing mistakes.

'cause honestly it's really hard to take someone seriously when you know he could call you a fucking scrub at any moment.


Youre right except he wasnt bming tarson at all.


I keep seeing this. How is telling somebody their build orders and cheese strats are terrible not bm? "I never fe vs a white terran," and at least koreans "do smart stuff so i can guess what it is and counter it." "I can't imagine why you didn't expect that" in reference to tarson commenting that it was unfortunate for him that he scouted the 2port. He basically insinuated that Tarson was stupid. It seems to me a lot of people didn't or can't read the chat (it is very blurry so I can understand) and just caught the swearing and thought that was what it was all about.


"I never fe vs a white terran," ... Idra doesn't, how is this bm
foreigners are considered unpredictable, Daniel Lee said himself that Sea[shield] also thought so.
It was a bad mistake from Tarson to let him scout that. Daniel Lee and Tasteless also said so.
So... yeah Idra was horribly bm there...


When Idra tells Strelok he wins cause he does stupid shit then agreed, thats very bm... but this wasnt anything like that.

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infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 19:44:07
June 07 2009 19:40 GMT
#889
I don't think it was just this incident which led to it though. Everyone knows about his previous comments regarding F91 and other games including many koreans. If he had just been respectable to people then everyone would like him and it would all be good, but hes got such a bad attitude people are not just going to ignore it.
Idle
Profile Joined May 2009
Korea (South)124 Posts
June 07 2009 20:03 GMT
#890
On June 08 2009 03:28 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2009 02:58 Idle wrote:
On June 07 2009 23:13 7mk wrote:
On June 07 2009 23:02 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
I thought SDM's nerdrage was pretty justified, I mean bringing Idrama to SKorea was in hope to bring back foreigners into the SC scene and while he seems to be improving, aside from his CJ face he doesn't seem to learn from his BM'ing mistakes.

'cause honestly it's really hard to take someone seriously when you know he could call you a fucking scrub at any moment.


Youre right except he wasnt bming tarson at all.


I keep seeing this. How is telling somebody their build orders and cheese strats are terrible not bm? "I never fe vs a white terran," and at least koreans "do smart stuff so i can guess what it is and counter it." "I can't imagine why you didn't expect that" in reference to tarson commenting that it was unfortunate for him that he scouted the 2port. He basically insinuated that Tarson was stupid. It seems to me a lot of people didn't or can't read the chat (it is very blurry so I can understand) and just caught the swearing and thought that was what it was all about.


"I never fe vs a white terran," ... Idra doesn't, how is this bm
foreigners are considered unpredictable, Daniel Lee said himself that Sea[shield] also thought so.
It was a bad mistake from Tarson to let him scout that. Daniel Lee and Tasteless also said so.
So... yeah Idra was horribly bm there...


When Idra tells Strelok he wins cause he does stupid shit then agreed, thats very bm... but this wasnt anything like that.



You took one line out of the entire conversation and called it not BM. No that one line by itself is not bm but the conversation as a whole is. saying I can't believe you did X and at least Koreans do smart stuff is insinuating that Tarson is stupid or bad. Yes Daniel Lee and Nick pointed out the mistake, they're commentators, they're supposed to point out the mistakes and the good moves. Its part of commentating and analyzing the game. They also did it without disrespecting the player, Idra did not.
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Myrkskog
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada481 Posts
June 07 2009 20:11 GMT
#891
So does Idra FE against Spanish or Black Terrans?
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 20:16:28
June 07 2009 20:15 GMT
#892
On June 08 2009 04:40 infinity2k9 wrote:
I don't think it was just this incident which led to it though. Everyone knows about his previous comments regarding F91 and other games including many koreans. If he had just been respectable to people then everyone would like him and it would all be good, but hes got such a bad attitude people are not just going to ignore it.


omg .. wow , sry but Im not gonna repeat myself I answerd that specific point several times already. ( In fact I answered this point on this very page...)





On June 08 2009 05:03 Idle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2009 03:28 7mk wrote:
On June 08 2009 02:58 Idle wrote:
On June 07 2009 23:13 7mk wrote:
On June 07 2009 23:02 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
I thought SDM's nerdrage was pretty justified, I mean bringing Idrama to SKorea was in hope to bring back foreigners into the SC scene and while he seems to be improving, aside from his CJ face he doesn't seem to learn from his BM'ing mistakes.

'cause honestly it's really hard to take someone seriously when you know he could call you a fucking scrub at any moment.


Youre right except he wasnt bming tarson at all.


I keep seeing this. How is telling somebody their build orders and cheese strats are terrible not bm? "I never fe vs a white terran," and at least koreans "do smart stuff so i can guess what it is and counter it." "I can't imagine why you didn't expect that" in reference to tarson commenting that it was unfortunate for him that he scouted the 2port. He basically insinuated that Tarson was stupid. It seems to me a lot of people didn't or can't read the chat (it is very blurry so I can understand) and just caught the swearing and thought that was what it was all about.


"I never fe vs a white terran," ... Idra doesn't, how is this bm
foreigners are considered unpredictable, Daniel Lee said himself that Sea[shield] also thought so.
It was a bad mistake from Tarson to let him scout that. Daniel Lee and Tasteless also said so.
So... yeah Idra was horribly bm there...


When Idra tells Strelok he wins cause he does stupid shit then agreed, thats very bm... but this wasnt anything like that.



You took one line out of the entire conversation and called it not BM. No that one line by itself is not bm but the conversation as a whole is. saying I can't believe you did X and at least Koreans do smart stuff is insinuating that Tarson is stupid or bad. Yes Daniel Lee and Nick pointed out the mistake, they're commentators, they're supposed to point out the mistakes and the good moves. Its part of commentating and analyzing the game. They also did it without disrespecting the player, Idra did not.


"I never know what you are fucking gonna do": line #1
"I never fe vs a white terran": line #2
"I can't believe you did x": line #3

I addressed these lines, turns out they are more than 1.

I'll admit though, I couldn't see the "at least koreans do smart stuff" part thats a bit stupid to say.
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Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
June 07 2009 20:44 GMT
#893
Are you guys still arguing about this O.o

Its time to move on
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
June 07 2009 20:46 GMT
#894
Yeah, I'm surprised this thread is still alive as well...though obviously I've done my fair share of posting in here

It's not half as bad as some of the action in General though...
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 07 2009 21:29 GMT
#895
mh I think youre right Im gonna shut up on this matter for now ^^
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FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
June 08 2009 01:20 GMT
#896
People focused on the cursing are missing the point. The conversation was this:

Tarson: i was dissapointed about this fe
Idra: i never fe vs white terrans
Tarson: ??
Tarson: okay
Tarson: bs
Tarson: but koreans chees to
Tarson: ??
Idra: ya but they do smart stuff
Idra: so i can guess what its gonna be
Idra: and counter it
Idra: with you guys i have no fuckin idea what you're gonna do
Tarson: ^^
Tarson: tha
Tarson: asw piss me off at the beggingn ??
Tarson: u scout my # port
Idra: cant imagine why you didnt expect it
Idra: when you ?? ??


Real subtle there, idra. This passive aggressive bullshit is why you got called out, not because you used the word "fuckin", which was just the cherry on top. Not because you just genuinely said "well, I don't know what the fuck you were going to do " in a joking manner. You have 0 charisma and 0 respect for your opponent, so don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

What makes it more of a joke is how it seems like you think you're "one of them (Korean pro)" and how this smarmy attitude comes through in your trash talk.

That said, SDM was incredibly unprofessional. That doesn't make idra any less of an asshat.
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
June 08 2009 01:32 GMT
#897
i didnt say it was in a joking manner, i meant everything i said.

its undeniable that foreigners do cheesy unpredictable stuff. hell he went 2 port wraith, thats about as cheesy as you can get tvt 'gee hope they cant see me or i lose'. i didnt tell him he was terrible because he plays that way, just that im not gonna fe vs someone likely to take risks like that. and that wasnt a tirade, it was in response to his questions.

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APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
June 08 2009 01:39 GMT
#898
lol at "worst progamer in korea"

Sure, Idra lost in his only minor league game, but the fact is that CJ thought he was good enough that they let him play in the minor league. To me, that doesn't say that Idra is one of the worst B teamers - it tells me that he is one of the better B teamers. Considering Idra hasn't been in Korea very long, he's doing pretty damn good imo.

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Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
June 08 2009 02:46 GMT
#899
On June 08 2009 10:32 IdrA wrote:
i didnt say it was in a joking manner, i meant everything i said.

its undeniable that foreigners do cheesy unpredictable stuff. hell he went 2 port wraith, thats about as cheesy as you can get tvt 'gee hope they cant see me or i lose'. i didnt tell him he was terrible because he plays that way, just that im not gonna fe vs someone likely to take risks like that. and that wasnt a tirade, it was in response to his questions.



I'm sure you could have found more tactful ways to phrase it, there's really no reason for your communication style.
jeddus
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States832 Posts
June 08 2009 04:18 GMT
#900
I didn't think idra was being that rude, or had some sort of malicious intent.

It didn't come off that way.

I wouldn't call Daniel Lee unprofessional or anything though, he was just speaking his feelings on the matter. Sure, I wish he commented on the match more, but it added to the "drama"
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