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food
United States1951 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On June 02 2009 14:24 Xeris wrote: exclamation point !!!!!!!!111one but really, time to maybe start another discussion: Players List Who Haven't Qualified (big name people that most would consider favorites): Chosen, Machine, G5, Yosh, Day[9], Artosis (am I missing anybody?) There are just 4 qualifiers left, with 6 players that I listed who *probably* barring some kind of upset will be winning the remaining qualifiers. This means two people will get left out, assuming no upsets. Who will get left out?! Discuss (I heard G5 might not be participating this year?...) I don't see artosis qualifying sadly.. he is so busy AND on korean time + he isn't playing as much so he isn't a guarantee even if he makes it to em all. G5 will be available for the last 2 or so.. I see him trying and probably making it. Yosh could win one easily if he played it through.. haven't spoken/heard from him at all so I have no idea if that will happen. Machine is a workoholic but I think he will get one. Chosen will get one... the big question is if he will break his addiction to 3 month spurts of bw, if he doesn't he will qualify and end up ditching finals. Day[9] is a wildcard.. he has what it takes to win one but he has also been losing in each of these. | ||
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wcgadminsaregreat
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So, instead of building a case versus someone when it could easily be futile, regardless of what the case is -- my proposition is this: Have a volunteer from the tl.net community (can not have any ties to the players in the finals) and have him become the designated admin for the final day (anything pertaining to the finals). This would mean that if the players request a postponement, the designated admin is in charge of gathering the players' confirmation of any changes, and notifying the players of this. We shall not go by the guidelines times as the official ones. There should be no official WCG time until the brackets have been changed, period. No games should take place in the finals without the designated admin being there (unless all 4 players are there and ready). This is simply a notion I want to start, i.e., modifications can be made. The admin hasn't showed on the final day for at least the final 2 qualifiers. The current admin can NOT be trusted, so even if he shows, the designated tl.net admin should still take precedence. If there is ever a problem in this scenario, making a support ticket to wcg or talking to wcg admins should be the LAST RESORT. Basically, if a trusted member of the community has free time on Sundays and possibly Mondays (possible postponement of a day), and is interested in USA tourneys finally be ran the way the community would like to see, then perhaps the people who volunteer can be added to a poll of sorts (whatever method of choosing). Having people concerned more about keeping their jobs than actually doing their jobs can no longer be acceptable. The community needs to force its way into overseeing our important tourneys; If WCG pays admins and there is still backlash, I'm sure they would love for the community to be able to police itself. I'm just trying to get the ball moving so to speak. The community should be aiding instead of going against each other. My 2 cents. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
day had to reschedule, took initiative, and it happened. you caused problems through your idiocy, but officially there were no problems. timestop set stuff up with chosen but didnt make a support ticket and didnt talk to you and nyoken, and you did nothing except post here. hence the reschedule falling through. it is the responsibility of the person who has a problem to get it fixed. having a stand in admin isnt gonna change anything except add another layer between wcg and the players. | ||
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wcgadminsaregreat
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The one valid point you have is that it would add another layer, but another layer is needed for now. When your admin(s) don't show up for the final day of a qualifier or make brackets for it, the story is closed -- something is wrong. Though this may add another layer now, if we prove to official this better than they have (can't be hard), eventually it could get to a point where WCG is the layer that is removed, or at least a reduced role. Players should focus on playing. Period. The designated admin could tell us everything we need to know in this very thread. There should be no misunderstandings, and if someone claims there was, it should be easy to verify that he is trying to abuse. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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wcgadminsaregreat
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You should try to not be so oppositional, it hurts progress; there is a problem, and it's not me, though I know it makes you feel good to think that. I'm done even discussing the results of this tourney, so if you are friends with nyoken or just want to give me a hard time, you can drop it. What's done is done in my eyes. But, at the same token, I know damn well that this shouldn't have happened, hence there needs to be changes for the next qualifiers. If you weren't in Korea, I'd go hug you or something. I can log on so you can thrash me if you like. | ||
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timestop
United States61 Posts
On June 02 2009 17:15 IdrA wrote: chosen didnt cause problems, there were no problems. you and timestop fucked up. timestop didnt get everyone to agree to reschedule, which is obviously necessary when everyone plays at once, and you didnt do anything at all. Okay lets get some shit straight greg. I DID NOT FUCK UP I DID NOT GET POSTPONEMENT I HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE OF STARCRAFT AND IM NOT GONNA LET A GAME TAKE OVER MY LIFE UNLESS BIG $ IS IN IT YO. AND IM NOT CRYING ABOUT IT SO STOP ACTING LIKE IT PLEASE. Thank you and have a nice day. And for rest of you, I already said "well better luck next time" Don't worry about me. And Xeris, don't favor upsets much? :D See you guys in next qualifier Bryce/Chosen. It'll be a good one ^^ P.S. I didnt post on here cause I wanted to see the outcome of all this and apparently while im gone 4 pages will go up and more BS from machinehead. Yes, he is a very "nice" guy, but most of his arguments were dumb in my opinion. No offense, but that is just my opinion. I just don't care too much about getting screwed over alittle, but hell i'll get another chance.... 6 actually ^^ CYA NIGGAS! PEACE TO YO MUTHA! | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On June 02 2009 20:54 iamtt1 wrote: dude machinehead its so obvious that all of the wcg usa players and admins are conspiring agaisnt you.. just move to canada so u can revitalize our community The States can keep the psychotic dipshits, imo. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On June 02 2009 21:35 timestop wrote: Okay lets get some shit straight greg. I DID NOT FUCK UP I DID NOT GET POSTPONEMENT I HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE OF STARCRAFT AND IM NOT GONNA LET A GAME TAKE OVER MY LIFE UNLESS BIG $ IS IN IT YO. AND IM NOT CRYING ABOUT IT SO STOP ACTING LIKE IT PLEASE. Thank you and have a nice day. And for rest of you, I already said "well better luck next time" Don't worry about me. And Xeris, don't favor upsets much? :D See you guys in next qualifier Bryce/Chosen. It'll be a good one ^^ P.S. I didnt post on here cause I wanted to see the outcome of all this and apparently while im gone 4 pages will go up and more BS from machinehead. Yes, he is a very "nice" guy, but most of his arguments were dumb in my opinion. No offense, but that is just my opinion. I just don't care too much about getting screwed over alittle, but hell i'll get another chance.... 6 actually ^^ CYA NIGGAS! PEACE TO YO MUTHA! are there any low level american players who arent fucking insane you tried to get a postponement, you didnt go about it correctly, you say you got screwed over. you fucked up. | ||
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wcgadminsaregreat
26 Posts
p.s. my arguments were right; the admin didn't do his job, thus by not having this tourney play out yesterday when there was no all-inclusive agreement on a reschedule (used loosely: time but no games), it would be an admission to him failing to do his job. Unless there is some arcane rule in some rule book that covers this very specific situation, then I think that is an accurate assessment of the situation -- without any new information being included to what is known now (to me at least). | ||
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wcgadminsaregreat
26 Posts
Players want to play games, not be faced with the burden of being a player/admin. It's the biggest tourney of the year for USA players, anyone could see that is simply asking for trouble. | ||
Chill
Calgary25986 Posts
Machinehead is permed + IP banned. I'm sure he will get another IP and be back since he can't let this go. | ||
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iNcontroL
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On June 02 2009 21:35 timestop wrote: Okay lets get some shit straight greg. I DID NOT FUCK UP I DID NOT GET POSTPONEMENT I HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE OF STARCRAFT AND IM NOT GONNA LET A GAME TAKE OVER MY LIFE UNLESS BIG $ IS IN IT YO. AND IM NOT CRYING ABOUT IT SO STOP ACTING LIKE IT PLEASE. Thank you and have a nice day. And for rest of you, I already said "well better luck next time" Don't worry about me. And Xeris, don't favor upsets much? :D See you guys in next qualifier Bryce/Chosen. It'll be a good one ^^ P.S. I didnt post on here cause I wanted to see the outcome of all this and apparently while im gone 4 pages will go up and more BS from machinehead. Yes, he is a very "nice" guy, but most of his arguments were dumb in my opinion. No offense, but that is just my opinion. I just don't care too much about getting screwed over alittle, but hell i'll get another chance.... 6 actually ^^ CYA NIGGAS! PEACE TO YO MUTHA! timestop let's not get cocky after one win please. | ||
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food
United States1951 Posts
im saddened to see the outcome of this, guess it was expected anyway hope two-faced losers like laurent dont get to screw more people over gl to nyoken and esp machinehead in next tourneys | ||
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Aux1
United States780 Posts
On June 03 2009 04:25 food wrote: timestop apparently is a 14 yr old wannabe, completely disgusting posting lol im saddened to see the outcome of this, guess it was expected anyway hope two-faced losers like laurent dont get to screw more people over gl to nyoken and esp machinehead in next tourneys Nobody screwed him over. Maybe if he conducted himself more professionally and didnt act like a whining 12 year old people would have taken his complaint more seriously. | ||
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