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SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
March 20 2009 16:40 GMT
#921
Holy wtf happened...
Graphics
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
March 20 2009 16:43 GMT
#922
Unfuckingbelievable. Jaedong (or Hero) is gonna have a tough time with Fantasy.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
amanet
Profile Joined December 2007
Croatia334 Posts
March 20 2009 16:45 GMT
#923
this is SOLD series
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
March 20 2009 16:46 GMT
#924
On March 21 2009 01:43 Warrior Madness wrote:
Unfuckingbelievable. Jaedong (or Hero) is gonna have a tough time with Fantasy.

Lol, not if fantasy goes bio.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-20 16:47:15
March 20 2009 16:46 GMT
#925
On March 21 2009 01:24 hacpee wrote:
Bisu is really not championship material. To lose to fantasy of all people, he is not worthy of Jaedong.

Then are you saying Savior is also not championship material because he lost to Zero 1-3?

On March 21 2009 01:46 CDRdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2009 01:43 Warrior Madness wrote:
Unfuckingbelievable. Jaedong (or Hero) is gonna have a tough time with Fantasy.

Lol, not if fantasy goes bio.


His new bio build is freaking scary.
POGGERS
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
March 20 2009 16:47 GMT
#926
this again proves that luxury is stronger than bisu!
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 20 2009 16:50 GMT
#927
On March 21 2009 00:41 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2009 00:26 IdrA wrote:
On March 21 2009 00:08 Mooncat wrote:
On March 20 2009 23:50 IdrA wrote:
ya given the amount that he invested in it, 4 zeals 4 goons and a reaver, and the fact that fantasy opened fd and lost the tank and all the marines, the harass really should have done significant damage. he got a few tanks and forced scvs to pull, but really he didnt do any meaningful damage.

arbiter wasnt a bad choice. its a low resource map thats set up very well for timing pushes. that means terrans 99% gonna timing push and that if you break it you're 99% gonna win. expanding isnt the way to break pushes. he was too far behind to hold the push no matter what he did, but arbiter was his best bet. (just going 2 base 6 gate would be worthless since fantasy would see it and just not push, arbiter forces a reaction and tricks terran into thinking it widens the timing window)


Didn't do any meaningful damage? Are you kidding me? Fantasy had to defend with his SCVs and lost AT LEAST half of them in the process. In addition he lost at least 2-3 tanks, a lot of mining time, and some minor stuff. If I remember correctly there was also a reaver shot that killed another couple of SCVs later on. How can you call that anything but meaningful damage?

?
bisu spent 4 zeals and 4 goons to get that handful of tanks and the scv mining time. bisus expo started after his harass was cleared. he basically needed to kill a whole mineral line of scvs to have done meaningful damage. the zeal goon drop taking out tanks was only beneficial if it allowed the reaver to do damage. it didnt. when you have a full 2 base economy vs a probe cut 1 base economy you can replace your army much quicker than your opponent.
and no he didnt lose half his scvs in the process, just look at his mineral lines after he stabilizes.



Watch Jon747's youtube VOD. Between about 9:05 and 9:18 you can clearly see how many SCVs are dying to the goons and zealots. At 9:18 you can also get a glimpse at fantasy's mineral line. There's only a skeleton crew of SCVs mining, with basically no additional SCVs from the "defense force" left to resume mining.

The next glance you get at the mineral line is at 11:12, where the SCV count STILL doesn't look like it's supposed to. Only a few seconds later Bisu gets off a reaver shot killing another 5 SCVs.

he did get more scvs than i thought but fantasy was still massively ahead once he put down the reaver harass, they had equivalent supplies by the time bisu's exp was up (protoss outa be significantly ahead in supply at that point) and they were on equal bases.

you're underestimating just how much damage bisu had to do to make his investment worthwhile, and he didnt do that much.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
March 20 2009 16:52 GMT
#928
If By.hero wins Jaedong (hoping not), then are we having an inter-clan war of By.Fantasy and By.Hero?
POGGERS
deus_073
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Romania187 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-20 16:58:23
March 20 2009 16:53 GMT
#929
For what it's worth, these are the games with com:

Set 1 part 1-2

+ Show Spoiler +

Set 1 part 2-2


Set 2 part 1-2

Set 2 part 2-2


Set 3 part 1-2

Set 3 part 2-2
thestool91
Profile Joined August 2007
672 Posts
March 20 2009 16:54 GMT
#930
On March 21 2009 01:01 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
This wasn't unexpected anyway. Bisu WINNING over sAviOr, that's an upset


definitely, i thought that the 3-0 win over nal_ra was a complete goof up on ra's part, so i didnt think much of it, even though nal_ra was and still is my fav player

but when bisu creamed savior when his vP was at his peak, i almost....gizzed my pants
the dreamer, mantoss, storm zerg, the cowboy, the spark terran, the ultimate weapon...what more can i say? GO KTF
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 20 2009 16:56 GMT
#931
whoa whoa whoa, what in the world.
RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
March 20 2009 17:00 GMT
#932
If OSL finals are Fantasy Hero instead of Bisu Jaedong I bet OGN marketing is gonna kill someone.
이영호 FIGHTING! Die Hard KT Rolster and Flash fan.
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
March 20 2009 17:04 GMT
#933
what a way to wake up in the morning..
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
March 20 2009 17:14 GMT
#934
whoa so if fantasy gets another silver I suspect people will be calling him the new stork

losing 2 OSL finals in a row to the 2 other races?
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Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
March 20 2009 17:18 GMT
#935
open a poll:

Will Fantasy get kicked out from SKT1 for beating Bisu and maybe destroying his career (not taking the osl he needs)?

[x] yes
[o] no
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
March 20 2009 17:19 GMT
#936
bisu aint no1 on elo anymore :D
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
March 20 2009 17:22 GMT
#937
holy fuck woke up to this.. if it's a joke it's not funny.
Xellos <3
boxxyownz
Profile Joined February 2009
United States103 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-20 17:23:18
March 20 2009 17:22 GMT
#938
kim taek yong hwaiting
zzz
Lockon Stratos
Profile Joined February 2009
United States126 Posts
March 20 2009 17:23 GMT
#939
ROFL BISU FAILS HAHAHAHA Fantasy all the way.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 20 2009 17:31 GMT
#940
Haha, it sucks, because if Bisu just won one of the first three games, he would have had an almost guaranteed win on Medusa, which would have prolonged the series to the last game.

Fellow got owned.
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