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Jee-Host
Profile Joined December 2008
Russian Federation158 Posts
March 20 2009 15:46 GMT
#901
Now only thing left to happen is JD's defeat... In semis... Who knows - maybe Fantasy will actually win at least something. Whoever wins - epicness is impossible without protoss.
Stork[gm] is the one...
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-20 15:50:08
March 20 2009 15:48 GMT
#902
bisu wtf!?

edit: fuck i just realized that means no bisu vs jaedong finals

fuck

god damn it
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
March 20 2009 15:50 GMT
#903
YESSSSSSSSSSSS
Moderator<:3-/-<
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
March 20 2009 15:52 GMT
#904
ok

now since there will be no bisu vs jaedong finals

HERO KILL THAT MOTHA

hero fighting!
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
March 20 2009 15:54 GMT
#905
On March 20 2009 20:00 Scaramanga wrote:
This just in, jaedong is gonna win his second osl

HajnaL
Profile Joined November 2008
France44 Posts
March 20 2009 15:55 GMT
#906
Unexpected ??

I mean, it's only recently that Bisu's PvT was starting to look decent... It just sucks that we won't see a Bisu Jaedong final... And i think also that fantasy is way more dangerous for a guy like Jaedong. We'll see hero might also go to the final though.
마재윤 / 김정우
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
March 20 2009 16:01 GMT
#907
On March 21 2009 00:23 Qwertify wrote:
All I can say is, Jaedong's OSL title-road has been paved smoothly.


I quoth myself.

+ Show Spoiler [Jaedong=??] +

Golden Mouse Winner

CJ Entusman #24
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
March 20 2009 16:01 GMT
#908
This wasn't unexpected anyway. Bisu WINNING over sAviOr, that's an upset
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2009 16:02 GMT
#909
On March 21 2009 00:41 MayorITC wrote:
One bo3 series and you guys act like the world flipped upside down.

"Oh no, Bisu's career is over."
"Fantasy is the next Boxer."

Just no. You guys are more whimsical than a bunch of middle school girls. Trends and patterns aren't determined from a single series, although it might be the initial starting point of one. I'm sure Bisu will go back to kicking ass in the future because it's not like this is the first bo3 he's ever lost in his life.

3-0 was surprising, but as many pointed out, Fantasy does have the capability to perform well in TvP. In the previous OSL, he went toe to toe with a Stork who had, and arguably still has, the best TvP. And it wasn't because Stork played poorly, but rather because Fantasy upped his game.

End Results.
Sometimes, I wonder if some of the people who post here even watched the games. It's fine if you don't for whatever reason, but then do us all a favor and don't share your groundless conclusions with us. I'm tired of people who look at the final results of a series and then start spewing nonsense from that. The numbers are just a small fraction of the story behind a series. Did Player A lose because he played poorly or because Player B played exceptionally well? What kind of games did they play?

There's so much that remains unsaid from just the results of a series that it's downright stupid to make any conjectures without watching the games first.


First off, it's a Bo5.

Second off, Bisu is in what is basically God Mode so him losing 2-3 would have been a shock much less 0-3.

Now I agree that people spewing absolute nonsense like Bisu is going to slump or Fantasy is going to be next bonjwa are totally baseless but a Bo5 is going to be very highly valued when you compare two players, especially when the Bo5 is played this late in the tournament.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
March 20 2009 16:03 GMT
#910
On March 21 2009 01:01 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
This was expected anyway. Bisu WINNING over sAviOr, that's an upset


Fixed double -.
CJ Entusman #24
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
March 20 2009 16:04 GMT
#911
what the ... -_-

oh well i was rooting for bisu but as long as fantasy wins the whole thing, i'm fine with that.
Terran & Potato Salad.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
March 20 2009 16:04 GMT
#912
well you can say it was unexpected... bisu really overcome his "flash-complex" lately and started winning against him and statistically his PvT has been a real top notch in the past 3-4 months or so. If it was some other guy and not fantasy this would've came absolutely from nowhere
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
March 20 2009 16:09 GMT
#913
Thank you Fantasy for keeping the 'surprise' in 'Starcraft'.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
iloahz
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States964 Posts
March 20 2009 16:10 GMT
#914
Sometimes matches between teammates can just be baffling. Who expected forgg to 3 0 Jaedong, and that Iris almost beat Savior in that OSL? Maybe Bisu didn't really practise for this, (he did admit he didn't practise for the game vs best), whereas Fantasy thought he probably couldn't win, but just played relaxed and did really well.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
March 20 2009 16:13 GMT
#915
Wow. I went to download the torrent for this and accidentally spoiled myself by seeing the last two files had size zero. My thought process was "Well, I expected a 3-0 Bisu rape, so that's not a surprise." I checked the results to confirm....I did not see that coming.
Zero fighting.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66159 Posts
March 20 2009 16:17 GMT
#916
Okay, when I loaded the torrent, I saw 3 games only. I thought, Bisu 3-0 ez?
And then, I come to this thread, and this is what I get.

Fantasy, you're fucking awesome.
POGGERS
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
March 20 2009 16:24 GMT
#917
Bisu is really not championship material. To lose to fantasy of all people, he is not worthy of Jaedong.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
March 20 2009 16:32 GMT
#918
On March 21 2009 00:08 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2009 23:50 IdrA wrote:
ya given the amount that he invested in it, 4 zeals 4 goons and a reaver, and the fact that fantasy opened fd and lost the tank and all the marines, the harass really should have done significant damage. he got a few tanks and forced scvs to pull, but really he didnt do any meaningful damage.

arbiter wasnt a bad choice. its a low resource map thats set up very well for timing pushes. that means terrans 99% gonna timing push and that if you break it you're 99% gonna win. expanding isnt the way to break pushes. he was too far behind to hold the push no matter what he did, but arbiter was his best bet. (just going 2 base 6 gate would be worthless since fantasy would see it and just not push, arbiter forces a reaction and tricks terran into thinking it widens the timing window)


Didn't do any meaningful damage? Are you kidding me? Fantasy had to defend with his SCVs and lost AT LEAST half of them in the process. In addition he lost at least 2-3 tanks, a lot of mining time, and some minor stuff. If I remember correctly there was also a reaver shot that killed another couple of SCVs later on. How can you call that anything but meaningful damage?

He did not lose half his scvs wtf are you talking about
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-20 16:40:54
March 20 2009 16:40 GMT
#919
Fantasy played awesome, and being the descendant of the Boxer --> Oov line makes it all the better. Seriously - if any T was gonna be the one to buckle down and start beating Protoss again,(there hasnt been a 3-0 TvP series since Flash > Stork) its someone being taught by Oov.

*edit*
That secret expansion just screamed iloveoov. So awesome seeing that against the top P in the world.
Writerman what
thestool91
Profile Joined August 2007
672 Posts
March 20 2009 16:40 GMT
#920
On March 20 2009 23:29 Showtime! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2009 23:18 Fr33t wrote:
Someone defeating Jaedong in a Bo5 ZvZ? That would be a pretty fucking big upset.


No, actually it wouldn't. By.Hero has very good zvz too bud.

Got to love ZvZ.


I thought that by.hero's zvz was 1-2, ? am i missing something?
he won against ggplay, and then lost to fake yellow and hyun
the dreamer, mantoss, storm zerg, the cowboy, the spark terran, the ultimate weapon...what more can i say? GO KTF
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