• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:37
CEST 20:37
KST 03:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy16ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool49Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen Gypsy to Korea How Can I Add Timer & APM Count? [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group E [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F Azhi's Colosseum - Foreign KCM
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2111 users

[OSL] Semifinal 1 Fantasy vs. Bisu - Page 39

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 37 38 39 40 41 53 Next
wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
March 20 2009 11:10 GMT
#761
lol

I was waiting patiently for this to happen. This is Bisu's destiny.
I know where my towel is.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
March 20 2009 11:10 GMT
#762
God i don't want bisu to lose anymore so i don't see ignorant bitching and crying about how unfair X is, or how someone who dislikes bisu/his fans to piss them off even more. Some have good points but seriously...
sAviOr...
Weryeery
Profile Joined June 2008
288 Posts
March 20 2009 11:11 GMT
#763
hahaha people start blaming the mappool.
Bisu fans are just so funny
Makhno
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Sweden585 Posts
March 20 2009 11:11 GMT
#764
On March 20 2009 20:10 Ver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2009 20:08 Makhno wrote:
On March 20 2009 20:08 PH wrote:
On March 20 2009 20:03 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
I think people should stop underestimating fantasy

I agree.

He's a very unpredictable player.


Except in TvZ


Ya he uses this very unique build that only iloveoov uses. And it currently has no strong counter on balanced maps because its so new.

Oh and 6 months ago he brought about the mech revolution.

Every other Terran is totally predictable compared to him.


Thing is, he uses it basically every game. Or maybe I've missed a few of his latest, but that's the feeling I get. And Jaedong will be ready for it.
"If I think, everything is lost"
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
March 20 2009 11:11 GMT
#765
Bisu played the matchup wrongly. PVT =/= PVZ, harrass play don't work on terran as effectively. Most of this matchup is macro and defence from probe harrass. Terran knows protoss will roll over them naturally with full economy, so Terran's harrass is much more effective. Bisu going for full harrass must end the game, if not he cannot catch up.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-20 11:12:42
March 20 2009 11:12 GMT
#766
On March 20 2009 20:08 Yaqoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2009 20:07 baubo wrote:
This thread is the reason why despite the fact that I like Bisu and his play, it's hard to root for him because his fans are so annoying.

Bisu did not play badly, outside of his non-scouting of Fantasy's ninja expansion. These are terran favored maps. Macro, standard play results in toss getting pwned. He did what all good tosses do in these situations, relying on harass and early game aggression to even the odds. The fact that he could not do so is due to Fantasy's great game sense(perhaps due to being teammates) and micro.

Basically, Bisu played like Bisu. Fantasy stepped up his game. And the map pool is crap for protoss. Hence why no protoss left.

I agree 100%. Its a bad map pool for a Protoss but Bisu did his best.

I mostly agree except he did play pretty bad in the last game...

Did you notice how many times he dropped stuff on mines? At least 3. Thats something an S class player should NOT do. Especially something like a reaver. Not to mention the several "attacks" where he moves in...loses 4-5 units then runs out killing barely anything.

Once again this only applies to the last game.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 20 2009 11:12 GMT
#767
On March 20 2009 20:11 Baddieko wrote:
Bisu played the matchup wrongly. PVT =/= PVZ, harrass play don't work on terran as effectively. Most of this matchup is macro and defence from probe harrass. Terran knows protoss will roll over them naturally with full economy, so Terran's harrass is much more effective. Bisu going for full harrass must end the game, if not he cannot catch up.

How does harass play not work in PvT? Please explain lol.

DT, Reaver, HT harass, elevator, zeal-bomb... Are you for real?
Peace~
xxsaznpride
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States506 Posts
March 20 2009 11:12 GMT
#768
On March 20 2009 20:08 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2009 20:06 xxsaznpride wrote:
On March 20 2009 20:01 TheTyranid wrote:
YOU

ARE

NOT

A

BONJWA


I love you.

3-0 3-0 3-0 3-0 3-0 3-0 3-0 3-0 3-0
Fuckin' Fantasy... so awesome.

Lol it's like all the mini-trolls come out of the darkness to milk on big troll's teet.


Mini troll? I honestly couldn't tell you what a troll is, but I just have a massive dislike for Bisu after Group F, being knocked out utterly in both SLs, then getting back in to just lose so harshly. If he won, I'd be supporting him and his "destined" OSL.
“Life is too short to embrace a woman I don’t love. I also think a woman’s life is too short to be embraced by a man she doesn’t love.” | CSGO: Cure Moonlight
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-20 11:14:41
March 20 2009 11:13 GMT
#769
Lol at the random Tl newbie saying the (argueably)best protoss player of all time played "the matchup wrongly". That's funny shit.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
March 20 2009 11:13 GMT
#770
On March 20 2009 20:07 baubo wrote:
This thread is the reason why despite the fact that I like Bisu and his play, it's hard to root for him because his fans are so annoying.

Bisu did not play badly, outside of his non-scouting of Fantasy's ninja expansion. These are terran favored maps. Macro, standard play results in toss getting pwned. He did what all good tosses do in these situations, relying on harass and early game aggression to even the odds. The fact that he could not do so is due to Fantasy's great game sense(perhaps due to being teammates) and micro.

Basically, Bisu played like Bisu. Fantasy stepped up his game. And the map pool is crap for protoss. Hence why no protoss left.


this

actually bisu picked the wrong battles, it seemed in game 2 and 3 that he has the edge but in both lost units carelessly. Those things happen. I can feel the combine force of the bisu haters and JD fans, but I still remember the "OMG thats not fair, JD had to play forGG on a fucking imbalanced map like Tiamath". In-team matches are always so hard to predict. Fantasy played way better today and deserved the win.
I really cant understand the anti-fanboysh rage
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Mista
Profile Joined January 2009
Singapore1022 Posts
March 20 2009 11:13 GMT
#771
On March 20 2009 20:11 Weryeery wrote:
hahaha people start blaming the mappool.
Bisu fans are just so funny


Are you blind? Baubo isn't a Bisu fan and he started this fact. God the hate for Bisu is just out of place.
Time for some Revolution !
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 20 2009 11:14 GMT
#772
On March 20 2009 20:12 xxsaznpride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2009 20:08 fanatacist wrote:
On March 20 2009 20:06 xxsaznpride wrote:
On March 20 2009 20:01 TheTyranid wrote:
YOU

ARE

NOT

A

BONJWA


I love you.

3-0 3-0 3-0 3-0 3-0 3-0 3-0 3-0 3-0
Fuckin' Fantasy... so awesome.

Lol it's like all the mini-trolls come out of the darkness to milk on big troll's teet.


Mini troll? I honestly couldn't tell you what a troll is, but I just have a massive dislike for Bisu after Group F, being knocked out utterly in both SLs, then getting back in to just lose so harshly. If he won, I'd be supporting him and his "destined" OSL.

So you dislike Bisu because he lost? Can there be any more of a bandwagon aspect to your fickle opinion?
Peace~
ShoGunBo
Profile Joined November 2008
Romania55 Posts
March 20 2009 11:14 GMT
#773
On March 20 2009 20:11 Weryeery wrote:
hahaha people start blaming the mappool.
Bisu fans are just so funny


hahahah!!! if u consider that a map pool of over 60% tvp isnt blamabel then .. ur a true sc fan!
...and I present u....Alex THE LION!!! :)
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 20 2009 11:14 GMT
#774
funny fact: in this saeson all 3 seimfinals of the SLs were 3-0. Will the last one be 3-0 as well?
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
March 20 2009 11:14 GMT
#775
On March 20 2009 20:06 pat777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2009 20:05 Malinor wrote:
As much as I wanted a Bisu vs Jaedong final. I will also be pleased that I do not have to read 50 "OMG, BISU IS BONJWA" - posts every day for the next couple of months.

Fantasy is a really good Bo-series player. Whoever will face him in the finals, he will have a really hard time winning.

"OMG, BISU IS NOT BONJWA" is about to get just as annoying.


Only if someone mentions Bisu and Bonjwa in the same sentence ... At least we know that no one will ever become as dominant as Savior or previous Bonjwas .
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
March 20 2009 11:14 GMT
#776
Any of the 2 Samsung protosses would've rolled Fantasy today. Their fast obs style counters Fantasy's harass style well and allows them to outmacro T's. I expected Bisu to outsmart Fantasy but his builds were just weird and unpolished.
Marines > everything
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 20 2009 11:14 GMT
#777
On March 20 2009 20:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Lol at the random Tl newbie saying the best protoss player of all time played "the matchup wrongly". That's funny shit.

QFT Lol.
Peace~
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 20 2009 11:14 GMT
#778
On March 20 2009 20:11 Baddieko wrote:
Bisu played the matchup wrongly. PVT =/= PVZ, harrass play don't work on terran as effectively. Most of this matchup is macro and defence from probe harrass. Terran knows protoss will roll over them naturally with full economy, so Terran's harrass is much more effective. Bisu going for full harrass must end the game, if not he cannot catch up.



Actually it's kinda opposite. Protoss knows they'll get reamed if a T gets 3/3 mech blobs so they tend to outexpand and harass T to oblivion or get raped.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
March 20 2009 11:15 GMT
#779
.
Super serious.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-20 11:22:53
March 20 2009 11:15 GMT
#780
On March 20 2009 20:12 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2009 20:08 Yaqoob wrote:
On March 20 2009 20:07 baubo wrote:
This thread is the reason why despite the fact that I like Bisu and his play, it's hard to root for him because his fans are so annoying.

Bisu did not play badly, outside of his non-scouting of Fantasy's ninja expansion. These are terran favored maps. Macro, standard play results in toss getting pwned. He did what all good tosses do in these situations, relying on harass and early game aggression to even the odds. The fact that he could not do so is due to Fantasy's great game sense(perhaps due to being teammates) and micro.

Basically, Bisu played like Bisu. Fantasy stepped up his game. And the map pool is crap for protoss. Hence why no protoss left.

I agree 100%. Its a bad map pool for a Protoss but Bisu did his best.

I mostly agree except he did play pretty bad in the last game...

Did you notice how many times he dropped stuff on mines? At least 3. Thats something an S class player should NOT do. Especially something like a reaver. Not to mention the several "attacks" where he moves in...loses 4-5 units then runs out killing barely anything.

Once again this only applies to the last game.


OSL finals Stork vs Fantasy - Stork won the two games on Chupung and the one on Medusa . To bad Bisu didn't get to play medusa ...Maps have little to do with Bisu's loss its just that fantasy uped his game and Bisu played well .... like shit . Bisu has no excuse but the one that he is inferior in PvT compared to Stork and JangBi ...
Prev 1 37 38 39 40 41 53 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Ladder Legends
18:00
Amateur Showdown #3
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech150
JuggernautJason102
BRAT_OK 61
MindelVK 29
EmSc Tv 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 26414
Mini 307
Soulkey 159
Dewaltoss 139
firebathero 83
sorry 78
IntoTheRainbow 12
Dota 2
420jenkins601
LuMiX0
League of Legends
Reynor25
Counter-Strike
fl0m2106
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King73
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor535
Liquid`Hasu424
Other Games
Grubby1925
FrodaN1705
Hui .140
Trikslyr36
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1071
StarCraft 2
angryscii 24
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 0
EmSc2Tv 0
StarCraft: Brood War
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 63
• Freeedom12
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Airneanach43
• blackmanpl 24
• RayReign 14
• 80smullet 8
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3046
• lizZardDota2106
Other Games
• imaqtpie878
• WagamamaTV364
• Shiphtur131
Upcoming Events
BSL
23m
RSL Revival
12h 23m
Cure vs Rogue
Maru vs TBD
MaxPax vs TBD
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
19h 23m
BSL
1d
Afreeca Starleague
1d 15h
Wardi Open
1d 15h
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W1
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.