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ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
March 15 2009 06:37 GMT
#1601
Alright! 1 more fantasy!
the courage to be a lazy bum
latent
Profile Joined March 2009
United States428 Posts
March 15 2009 06:37 GMT
#1602
On March 15 2009 15:36 Coffee wrote:
i hate to say this ktf fans, but fantasy has lux's number.

Is that his cell phone or home phone number?
They must talk to each other a lot.
Moo
Coffee
Profile Joined March 2008
United Kingdom347 Posts
March 15 2009 06:38 GMT
#1603
On March 15 2009 15:37 latent wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2009 15:36 Coffee wrote:
i hate to say this ktf fans, but fantasy has lux's number.

Is that his cell phone or home phone number?
They must talk to each other a lot.


i heard they keep in contact, they play out the fantasy raping lux fetish often.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
March 15 2009 06:38 GMT
#1604
Fantasy at top left in teal
Luxury at top right in green
Neo Harmony
brood war for life, brood war forever
eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
March 15 2009 06:38 GMT
#1605
Wonder if fantasy is gonna go mech or bio. He seems to be pretty strong with his mech TvZ but i think he shouldn't gamble and go M'M
BF:BC2 ID: BisuStork//CJ Entusman #32
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-15 06:38:22
March 15 2009 06:38 GMT
#1606
On March 15 2009 15:33 Shengster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2009 15:30 Hot_Bid wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:29 Shengster wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:28 Rostam wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:25 Hot_Bid wrote:
i love the fanboys who are like "it's a BO loss"

if someone does 14cc and loses constantly with it, you can't possibly say its a "BO loss" when you're up hugely if the build succeeds. 14cc is just a huge gamble, the risk is built into the build, you can't just be like "oh its lucky that the other player tried to keep me honest" lolol

i love it when 14cc or 14nex dies horribly


BBS is a huge gamble too, I'm not saying it's luck that Fantasy won but it's not the kind of situation where people can just BBS Flash every game and win by default. He made a calculated risk, Fantasy made a calculated risk, Fantasy's happened to pay off while Flash's fucked him over. People are just pretending it's 2008 and saying Flash needs to stop 14ccing, which is just ridiculous because its really not that bad an idea to throw in once in a while in TvT.


I fully agree with this. Fantasy knew the chances of him winning by playing standard were low. His cheese was a calculated risk that paid off.

are you serious? 8 rax in mid in TvT ONLY beats 14cc, not a standard build


Did you read what I wrote? I implied that if Fantasy played FlaSh straight up he would have lost. That's why he decided to cheese; there was a probability that FlaSh would 14cc and he got lucky.

did you read what i wrote?

14cc is far more risky and cheesy than proxy 8 rax in TvT. nothing dies to 8 rax except 14cc, plenty of players have defended 8 rax with standard rax timing, and the 8 rax player is behind. in fact, what's hilarious is if flash played standard, as the better player should do, he would've won not the other way around. its just ironic that you are all pissy at fantasy when it's 100% flash's own fault for losing.

again, to repeat: in TvT, 8 rax is far less risky and cheesy than 14cc.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
March 15 2009 06:38 GMT
#1607
Harmony(?): Fantasy at top left, Luxury at top right.
FrozenArbiter: Obless PvT master
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 15 2009 06:38 GMT
#1608
His MnM is fine AFAIK
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
March 15 2009 06:38 GMT
#1609
Please Luxury. Just step-up for once and take down this spider-looking Terran.
eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
March 15 2009 06:38 GMT
#1610
I don't know why but Fantasy reminds me a lot of boxer. Even the appearance. That may just be me though.
BF:BC2 ID: BisuStork//CJ Entusman #32
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
March 15 2009 06:38 GMT
#1611
I agree with HB
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
March 15 2009 06:38 GMT
#1612
On March 15 2009 15:36 Samurai- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2009 15:33 Roffles wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:32 Rostam wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:30 LosingID8 wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:28 Rostam wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:25 Hot_Bid wrote:
i love the fanboys who are like "it's a BO loss"

if someone does 14cc and loses constantly with it, you can't possibly say its a "BO loss" when you're up hugely if the build succeeds. 14cc is just a huge gamble, the risk is built into the build, you can't just be like "oh its lucky that the other player tried to keep me honest" lolol

i love it when 14cc or 14nex dies horribly


BBS is a huge gamble too, I'm not saying it's luck that Fantasy won but it's not the kind of situation where people can just BBS Flash every game and win by default. He made a calculated risk, Fantasy made a calculated risk, Fantasy's happened to pay off while Flash's fucked him over. People are just pretending it's 2008 and saying Flash needs to stop 14ccing, which is just ridiculous because its really not that bad an idea to throw in once in a while in TvT.

But, I mean...it was a BO loss.

it wasn't a BBS. it was a center rax which in itself is not that horrible. if you saw fantasy's main, he got gas at fairly standard timing. my guess is that he predicted that there was a very high chance of flash going 14cc so this build would punish him for it. if flash was going standard he would have a nice transition into standard play with earlier rax float scouting.


Sorry, doesn't BBS just stand for "Barracks Before Supply"? I dunno, I always kind of assumed that, so if I'm misusing the term then sorry. But that's what I meant if BBS is something else.


Believe it's Barrack barrack supply.

Jeah BBS is barracks before supply, since barracks means more then one so it cant be only 1, but 2.



No, Barracks is the singular. BBS means BARRACKS BARRACKS SUPPLY, ffs
✌
Amarxist
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States371 Posts
March 15 2009 06:39 GMT
#1613
Fantasy wields great power! Look, he even has the power to sway the masses into a angry mob with the flicks of his wrist and taps of his fingers.
☺ ☻
maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
March 15 2009 06:39 GMT
#1614
Luxury's ovie appears to be scouting in the right direction, with a detour to scout for proxies.
FrozenArbiter: Obless PvT master
maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
March 15 2009 06:40 GMT
#1615
12 hatch from Luxury. Fantasy scouting bottom left.
FrozenArbiter: Obless PvT master
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
March 15 2009 06:40 GMT
#1616
I smell a mech build again
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 15 2009 06:40 GMT
#1617
On March 15 2009 15:38 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
I don't know why but Fantasy reminds me a lot of boxer. Even the appearance. That may just be me though.

half a year ago everyone was saying that.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
March 15 2009 06:40 GMT
#1618
On March 15 2009 15:38 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2009 15:33 Shengster wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:30 Hot_Bid wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:29 Shengster wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:28 Rostam wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:25 Hot_Bid wrote:
i love the fanboys who are like "it's a BO loss"

if someone does 14cc and loses constantly with it, you can't possibly say its a "BO loss" when you're up hugely if the build succeeds. 14cc is just a huge gamble, the risk is built into the build, you can't just be like "oh its lucky that the other player tried to keep me honest" lolol

i love it when 14cc or 14nex dies horribly


BBS is a huge gamble too, I'm not saying it's luck that Fantasy won but it's not the kind of situation where people can just BBS Flash every game and win by default. He made a calculated risk, Fantasy made a calculated risk, Fantasy's happened to pay off while Flash's fucked him over. People are just pretending it's 2008 and saying Flash needs to stop 14ccing, which is just ridiculous because its really not that bad an idea to throw in once in a while in TvT.


I fully agree with this. Fantasy knew the chances of him winning by playing standard were low. His cheese was a calculated risk that paid off.

are you serious? 8 rax in mid in TvT ONLY beats 14cc, not a standard build


Did you read what I wrote? I implied that if Fantasy played FlaSh straight up he would have lost. That's why he decided to cheese; there was a probability that FlaSh would 14cc and he got lucky.

did you read what i wrote?

14cc is far more risky and cheesy than proxy 8 rax in TvT. nothing dies to 8 rax except 14cc, plenty of players have defended 8 rax with standard rax timing, and the 8 rax player is behind. in fact, what's hilarious is if flash played standard, as the better player should do, he would've won not the other way around. its just ironic that you are all pissy at fantasy when it's 100% flash's own fault for losing.

again, to repeat: in TvT, 8 rax is far less risky and cheesy than 14cc.


How can 14cc be more cheesy than 8rax?

8rax beats 1 thing
14cc beats alot of things

hence 8rax is more cheesy.

However i agree that flash shouldn't 14cc when he's the better player. It was stupid of him.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
March 15 2009 06:40 GMT
#1619
Gas after second hatch from lux.
FrozenArbiter: Obless PvT master
Shengster
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States167 Posts
March 15 2009 06:40 GMT
#1620
On March 15 2009 15:38 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2009 15:33 Shengster wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:30 Hot_Bid wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:29 Shengster wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:28 Rostam wrote:
On March 15 2009 15:25 Hot_Bid wrote:
i love the fanboys who are like "it's a BO loss"

if someone does 14cc and loses constantly with it, you can't possibly say its a "BO loss" when you're up hugely if the build succeeds. 14cc is just a huge gamble, the risk is built into the build, you can't just be like "oh its lucky that the other player tried to keep me honest" lolol

i love it when 14cc or 14nex dies horribly


BBS is a huge gamble too, I'm not saying it's luck that Fantasy won but it's not the kind of situation where people can just BBS Flash every game and win by default. He made a calculated risk, Fantasy made a calculated risk, Fantasy's happened to pay off while Flash's fucked him over. People are just pretending it's 2008 and saying Flash needs to stop 14ccing, which is just ridiculous because its really not that bad an idea to throw in once in a while in TvT.


I fully agree with this. Fantasy knew the chances of him winning by playing standard were low. His cheese was a calculated risk that paid off.

are you serious? 8 rax in mid in TvT ONLY beats 14cc, not a standard build


Did you read what I wrote? I implied that if Fantasy played FlaSh straight up he would have lost. That's why he decided to cheese; there was a probability that FlaSh would 14cc and he got lucky.

did you read what i wrote?

14cc is far more risky and cheesy than proxy 8 rax in TvT. nothing dies to 8 rax except 14cc, plenty of players have defended 8 rax with standard rax timing, and the 8 rax player is behind. in fact, what's hilarious is if flash played standard, as the better player should do, he would've won not the other way around. its just ironic that you are all pissy at fantasy when it's 100% flash's own fault for losing.

again, to repeat: in TvT, 8 rax is far less risky and cheesy than 14cc.


Don't put words in my mouth. Who said I was pissed off?

You're trying to blow smoke when there's nothing there. I'm not arguing with you, I'm stating that Fantasy's decision to go 8 rax was because he knew Flash was the better player.
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