EPT"If you ever happen to post
bisu build
in the Live Report Threads, I'ma fly to where you live and own your ass"
(or something like that)
XD
A warning from the staff - Page 13
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EsX_Raptor
United States2801 Posts
"If you ever happen to post bisu build in the Live Report Threads, I'ma fly to where you live and own your ass" (or something like that) XD | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
On March 05 2009 21:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: Nope. That shit really doesn't matter. We have gay forum members, and they don't care, so why on earth do you? This is a terrible argument. It assumes that because the current representative of gays here don't care that all or at least 99% must not. I happen to agree with you I just hate arguments like "Well my gays friends let me..." | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On March 13 2009 09:43 DamageControL wrote: This is a terrible argument. It assumes that because the current representative of gays here don't care that all or at least 99% must not. I happen to agree with you I just hate arguments like "Well my gays friends let me..." I don't really care what people who don't come to this site would find offensive on this site | ||
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DeepGreen
United States175 Posts
It's kind of of touching that Starcraft has been around (seriously) long enough for "race" jokes to become offensive! | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On March 13 2009 13:08 Bosu wrote: It's less about it being offensive and more about it being an annoying old joke that needs to be put to rest.When 1/4 of the posts in a tourney thread are 1a2a3a references it gets kinda redundant. Yep, exactly this. Come on, DeepGreen, nobody gets offended by 1a2a3a protoss is easy jokes. | ||
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DeepGreen
United States175 Posts
On March 13 2009 13:08 Bosu wrote: It's less about it being offensive and more about it being an annoying old joke that needs to be put to rest.When 1/4 of the posts in a tourney thread are 1a2a3a references it gets kinda redundant. ...I actually never said 1a2a3a was offensive. I said it was more likely to get you banned than words that might offend people. What tickles me is that SC has been around long enough to have "redundant" (as you put it) jokes about these factions that are, for lack of a better term, short-sighted and "racist." Wasn't trying to reopen issues ><. | ||
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TicTacToe
China21 Posts
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7x-Justice
Russian Federation28 Posts
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
Just a suggestion though, I know it won't happen. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66155 Posts
On March 15 2009 04:33 talismania wrote: not that they will be, because they're so ingrained in gamer culture, but the words "gay" and "rape" probably ought to be ban-worthy offenses. Those two words will always have offensive meanings to some members of the community, after all, and it's not like anyone's vocabulary is limited by removing them. Just a suggestion though, I know it won't happen. But those words are sometimes.. ahem... used to describe feelings. Like for example, if there's a huge 200 food vs 200 food battle, and battle ends up with one player with 50 food and other with 150 food, we can say 'hope shit he just got raped' or 'wtf gay storms, destroyed all the tanks'. I'm sure, in those context, people won't find them that offensive. Maybe we should do a poll? | ||
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
On March 13 2009 14:29 TicTacToe wrote: what's 1a2a3a jokes? Joke about Protoss being ez (or imba, depending). All you need to do is 1a2a3a your guys in. | ||
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Blunderbore
Lithuania23 Posts
But those words are sometimes.. ahem... used to describe feelings. <...> we can say 'hope shit he just got raped' or 'wtf gay storms, destroyed all the tanks'. [QUOTE] you mean you can't find other words to express your feelings? you must be popular with girls ^^ | ||
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Calyx
United States49 Posts
[QUOTE]On March 22 2009 21:17 konadora wrote: But those words are sometimes.. ahem... used to describe feelings. <...> we can say 'hope shit he just got raped' or 'wtf gay storms, destroyed all the tanks'. [QUOTE] you mean you can't find other words to express your feelings? you must be popular with girls ^^[/QUOTE] You have to admit, in this instance konadora is right - try saying "jaedong just raped that n00b" and then "jaedong won." There is a big differance! And don't try arguing that you could just substitute the word 'rape' for something else. In gaming culture, 'rape' has a connotation different from any other word you can find. Sure, you could get your point across without using the word, but it just wouldn't be the same. | ||
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
The point is that, regardless, the use of any offensive word can be, well, offensive, even if the person who used it didn't intend it. That can't be changed. If there's a rape survivor on this forum, can you imagine how they feel every time they see the word used in such a relatively lighthearted context? Of course people don't mean it this way, but hearing the word used in this manner effectively equates their experience with someone beating someone else at starcraft. And that can cause at least a twinge of pain for survivors. The same point can be made about the word gay, since it's most often used in the gamer world to connote something negative. Like I said before, nothing will change here with regards to official policy and these two words. But I hope, in the long run, that people think about the language they use. There are substitutions (none are perfect), but I, for example, use "lame" instead of gay and "own" instead of rape. Something to think about. | ||
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Excello.ChOseN
United States82 Posts
This is sooooo dumb. Cdrdude are you still in middle school? Ok, here I'll make this really simple. Say I'm gay. Ok so now I'm gay, I like men, not so attracted to females. I now have the choice, hey am I going to go around telling ppl I like men. Hey I'm gay! Or could I hide it by so many things. I could even choose just not to have sex at all. I could just say ok I'm gonna go become a preacher, or I'm gonna go become a eunich. Just for the sake of argument either of those things is better then being dead. Now to change it up. Say I'm black. Ok I'm black, in the past I would simply be a slave. Theres no choices I have here. I can't hide that I'm black. I can't make a lifestyle choice and say hey I'm going to just stop being black, or avoid being black. Its not even in the same category as being gay. Cdrdude, to conclude, you are a pathetic ignorant child. Good day sir ^_^! | ||
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pavement ist rad
United States226 Posts
YES: fag/gay is used a lot, it is part of our vernacular, it means a lot of things, and NONE of them are good. the POINT: even though you don't realize it, you are using the word as an insult, which is harmful. You should try not to use language like this on the internet or in real life. Words are powerful, they are linked to stigmas which we should try as whole to break down. Using such words just continues them. | ||
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NicolBolas
United States1388 Posts
On March 23 2009 00:32 Calyx wrote: You have to admit, in this instance konadora is right - try saying "jaedong just raped that n00b" and then "jaedong won." That's a classic strawman. There are other alternatives that do not use the word "rape" that are more exciting than "won": "Jaedong owned the hell out of that fuggin' n00b." "Jaedong absolutely crushed that n00b." They get the point across without using that language. And they allow us to all sound different, instead of everybody using the exact same language like they were clones or something. Also, if you have to call a match a "rape," it had better be exactly that. Not just "owning" or "won handily" or even "dominated the match". So many things have been called "rape" that aren't worthy of that word that it's starting to lose all meaning. "Gay"... there's really no defense for that one. | ||
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Xusneb
Canada612 Posts
 ). However, just realize that you will come off as someone stupid and ignorant to other people. Of course, most people don't care about what others think I suppose, so this point is usually moot.Personally, I cringe at these words and my personal opinion of the person using these words usually goes down a bit. It just shows one is not understanding what he or she is saying or one just doesn't really care that much about other people. | ||
GTR
51415 Posts
Examples On April 12 2009 21:47 fanatacist wrote: Storm your own goon more you dipshit. On April 12 2009 21:43 fanatacist wrote: HOW THE FUCK DID SPEAR NOT PREPARE FOR THIS SHIT WOOOOOOOOOOOOW NOOBFIGHT | ||
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