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KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
February 06 2009 01:07 GMT
#1341
Upmagic still has a chance to become better looking .

SOOO glad that there wasn't any mech though, but then again, looking at these maps, they all kinda suck for mech. Especially with Chupung-Ryeong and Harmony, you can't push out and get a 3rd base very easily, while the zerg can easily take the entire map while you watch. Even destination is tough for mech cuz the map is soo damn huge. Now that zergs are growing some brains and are PUTTING SUNKENS AT EXPOS TO DEFEND AGAINST VULTURES, the mech build is really showing its flaws, which is AWESOME. Nothing against Upmagic though .

I do wanna try that hatch in the opponents mineral only into 5 hatch in the opponents natural build though . That was pure pwnage.
RIP eSTRO :(
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
February 06 2009 01:10 GMT
#1342
On February 05 2009 21:49 MrHoon wrote:
Flash Interview


- You lost at the winner's match. READ THIS! IMPORTANT!
▲ I was at such a disadvantage from the start. For progamers, my start is a bad build against Hwasin hyung's build. Spectators might not understand, but hwasin risked everything and went for the command. People thought we were mirrored, but I was 2fac speed, while hwasin hyung was 3fac speed. From the start, the game was a 40% for me and 60% for Hwasin hyung.



Can someone explain this more? I don't know why going for the command center for Hwasin would "risk everything". What does 3fac speed mean? 3 factories before speed for vultures?
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
February 06 2009 01:11 GMT
#1343
chupung ryeong is a decent map for mech, the midgame gol tank timing push is so fucking strong cuz its hard to counter and the rush distance is tiny
buuut chupung isnt a msl map.
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-06 01:13:26
February 06 2009 01:12 GMT
#1344
+ bio tvz is a strategy that can [basically] be used on any map, and will be the dominant strategy in tvz for the rest of starcraft. Mech is so map based, that if you focus on your mech too much, your bio becomes worse, the maps switch, and your at a disadvantage. Hwasin is a top player, making this entire stylistic change, totally different flow and timings...it would put him off immeasurably for short term gains.

mech wont be around [at least to this degree] in 6+ months IMO.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
[AhunGrY]MelOn
Profile Joined November 2008
United States357 Posts
February 06 2009 01:42 GMT
#1345
blargh disappointing games
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
February 06 2009 02:27 GMT
#1346
why were like 40 pages out of all these pages just dedicated to obsolete chinese hate. i thought esp since america is in such a pinch at the moment, that there would be a lot more respect to the chinese in general, but obviously this is not so. the chinese guy provided great advice, according to the people listening in, and i see no reason that you had to be so obnoxious about it...


i also dont understand why hwasin lacks so much support compared to players such as savior, flash, and jaedong.

hwasin has NEVER done something "BAD" and could be considered one of the very best players for a very long time... he has been around much longer than jaedong and flash, and is close friends with the Maestro. i really dont see why you guys just throw hate at him... he practices so hard for his games...he puts so much dedication into his game...

just stop hating him.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
February 06 2009 02:29 GMT
#1347
Holy shit Jaedong and firebathero are out.

Fuck Bisu
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-06 02:42:52
February 06 2009 02:38 GMT
#1348
On February 06 2009 11:27 ramen247 wrote:
why were like 40 pages out of all these pages just dedicated to obsolete chinese hate. i thought esp since america is in such a pinch at the moment, that there would be a lot more respect to the chinese in general, but obviously this is not so. the chinese guy provided great advice, according to the people listening in, and i see no reason that you had to be so obnoxious about it...



Hoho, you need to learn how politics work then. =) You are talking about the same country who owes China a /ridiculous/ monetary debt and blames China for "lending the US so much money".

That aside, the guy was pretty damn loud and also I don't think Cantonese is too attractive to a lot of people (I can't stand it, I speak strictly Mandarin). Even if the guy did provide good advice, if no one can understand it, it doesn't do much good. We're used to hearing Korean and English commentary so it catches us off guard. The comments look pretty in jest from what I can see. =)

AND WOOT FOR HWASIN!!! I've been rooting for that bastard since he first began his Savior rivalry and he /finally/ pulls through again after his slump. (Or at least what I saw as his slump) Edit PS: Sucks that JD is out but I'm fucking glad that FBH got /stomped/
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
February 06 2009 05:05 GMT
#1349
So 4/4 for me in LB

A bit sad that Jaedong lost but I somehow had a feeling Hwasin and Flash will go through and I am really happy that they did.
[AhunGrY]MelOn
Profile Joined November 2008
United States357 Posts
February 06 2009 06:08 GMT
#1350
hmmm
am i the only one who thinks fbh wouldnt have made it even if he was in any other group
his performance is pretty sucky lately (in wl and in this group games)
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
February 06 2009 06:16 GMT
#1351
On February 06 2009 11:29 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
Holy shit Jaedong and firebathero are out.

Fuck Bisu


made me lol. there ARE many bisu haters i guess haha

anyway, it was a good group, i enjoyed it.

not fbh of course, but that's because he didnt win ;D

Jaedong.. i dont know. he could have done better for sure, but who knows.
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
February 06 2009 06:25 GMT
#1352
On February 06 2009 15:08 [AhunGrY]MelOn wrote:
hmmm
am i the only one who thinks fbh wouldnt have made it even if he was in any other group
his performance is pretty sucky lately (in wl and in this group games)

hes been doing terrible ever since that lux all kill
You could tell from his face hes not the FBH he was weeks ago
dats racist
Archon_Wing
Profile Joined May 2004
United States378 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-06 06:34:13
February 06 2009 06:30 GMT
#1353
On February 06 2009 11:27 ramen247 wrote:
why were like 40 pages out of all these pages just dedicated to obsolete chinese hate. i thought esp since america is in such a pinch at the moment, that there would be a lot more respect to the chinese in general, but obviously this is not so. the chinese guy provided great advice, according to the people listening in, and i see no reason that you had to be so obnoxious about it...


I thought that at first... but then I actually watched it, and well, I was keeping it on silent for the rest of the game. To me at least, it's not really him speaking Chinese or w/e; just that it was too loud and voice was grating

And a Chinese individual/ China the Country are two diffrent things. I have nothing against Chinese people or Chinese the language (I am Chinese) but this guy in particular, yea.
Nothing witty here atm
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
February 06 2009 06:43 GMT
#1354
Okay, FBH, stop working your way around Kespa rules.

Stop trying to dodge typing gg by typing "nogg" or "99"
dats racist
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
February 06 2009 07:19 GMT
#1355
On February 06 2009 15:43 MrHoon wrote:
Okay, FBH, stop working your way around Kespa rules.

Stop trying to dodge typing gg by typing "nogg" or "99"

What? I've got to go back and watch that vod.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
February 06 2009 07:27 GMT
#1356
On February 06 2009 15:43 MrHoon wrote:
Okay, FBH, stop working your way around Kespa rules.

Stop trying to dodge typing gg by typing "nogg" or "99"

When did he do this?
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
February 06 2009 07:41 GMT
#1357
On February 06 2009 16:27 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2009 15:43 MrHoon wrote:
Okay, FBH, stop working your way around Kespa rules.

Stop trying to dodge typing gg by typing "nogg" or "99"

When did he do this?

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dats racist
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
February 06 2009 09:00 GMT
#1358
Queens ensnaring marines, Scourge chasing BCs with parasites, Yamato on Ultralisks, offensive Hatcheries... yeah, I'd say these were good games.

And people were hating Bisu for "fucking up the MSL"...

I'm also a bit surprised that not many people saw it coming that Hwasin would qualify. You only need to take a look at his OSL qualification, where he 2-0'ed a Mind who was definitely not slumping. Bisu was talking shit at the OSL saying "I wanted to choose someone I often win against, but Hwasin has been chosen already", but it's obvious that it wouldn't be so one-sided if the two were to meet now.
Brood War is alive and well.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 06 2009 09:32 GMT
#1359
On February 06 2009 15:16 imperfect wrote:
Jaedong.. i dont know. he could have done better for sure, but who knows.

Yup! He played quite bad in all 3 games :/ Especially his final game was sad. The first one was pretty silly as well... I don't know what was up with him.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
HajnaL
Profile Joined November 2008
France44 Posts
February 06 2009 10:16 GMT
#1360
On February 06 2009 00:47 Hot_Bid wrote:
its obvious jaedong will be declining in the next few weeks, because there's only one alpha zerg at any given time in progaming, thats the way the sith swarm works



Are you saying sAviOr took back his place ?
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