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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
February 05 2009 21:40 GMT
#1321
Hwasin is a great player. He's one of those guys where no matter how much he might lose, I will always support him. He's also one of the reason's why STX is my second favorite team. Well deserved, congrats Red Sniper!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
February 05 2009 21:40 GMT
#1322
i can never figure out his timing attacks. when i play i never feel like i have enough to do damage until later on in the game.

so stylish~
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entrails
Profile Joined May 2008
United States93 Posts
February 05 2009 21:53 GMT
#1323
leta vs jangbi finals imo.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
February 05 2009 22:10 GMT
#1324
Hwasin was really good before his slump, it is just that he was really unlucky in getting crushed by Bisu all the time. His record vs P is really pretty good if you don't count games against Bisu.

I just wonder what will happen to him here....
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
D00dles
Profile Joined June 2008
Cambodia217 Posts
February 05 2009 22:20 GMT
#1325
Sigh FBH, start winning damn it.
"This. How people cant see it is beyond me... how making a copy of something is stealing is also beyond me. Is it stealing to make a photo copy of a book?" - HuskyTheHusky
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-05 22:37:47
February 05 2009 22:33 GMT
#1326
On February 06 2009 03:21 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2009 02:53 OneOther wrote:
On February 06 2009 02:50 Ideas wrote:
On February 05 2009 22:55 Dazed_Spy wrote:
flash threw his game against hwasin so he could rape his competition for the terran throne.

Fact.



more like JD threw his game vs hwasin to get revenge vs FBH


But srsly all the games in this group were AWESOME

sucks that JD didn't make it out :\, I was hoping for some JD vs Leta action.

Flash vs leta should still be good though :D

More like JD got outplayed by Hwasin's micro&timing!
4/4, woohoo.


more like jaedong is too greedy to make a sunken
whasin beating flash was a real upset imo. I actually thought flash would win until he sacrificed all his vultures and lost mapcontrol..

Well, Jaedong thought he could handle the marines/medics with Zerglings. For a second it looked like he could.

Haha it's kinda funny how in the MSL (I think it was) Group Selections, many players voted Hwasin as the guy with great skills and horrible luck. I can't agree more. He's certianly good enough to have a badge, yet he always ran into immovable walls like Bisu, sAviOr at his prime, Jaedong, etc. I am really happy he managed to do this last night - it was a statement. Hopefully it provides him enough confidence to do something greater this season.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
February 05 2009 22:52 GMT
#1327
On February 06 2009 07:33 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2009 03:21 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
On February 06 2009 02:53 OneOther wrote:
On February 06 2009 02:50 Ideas wrote:
On February 05 2009 22:55 Dazed_Spy wrote:
flash threw his game against hwasin so he could rape his competition for the terran throne.

Fact.



more like JD threw his game vs hwasin to get revenge vs FBH


But srsly all the games in this group were AWESOME

sucks that JD didn't make it out :\, I was hoping for some JD vs Leta action.

Flash vs leta should still be good though :D

More like JD got outplayed by Hwasin's micro&timing!
4/4, woohoo.


more like jaedong is too greedy to make a sunken
whasin beating flash was a real upset imo. I actually thought flash would win until he sacrificed all his vultures and lost mapcontrol..

Well, Jaedong thought he could handle the marines/medics with Zerglings. For a second it looked like he could.

Haha it's kinda funny how in the MSL (I think it was) Group Selections, many players voted Hwasin as the guy with great skills and horrible luck. I can't agree more. He's certianly good enough to have a badge, yet he always ran into immovable walls like Bisu, sAviOr at his prime, Jaedong, etc. I am really happy he managed to do this last night - it was a statement. Hopefully it provides him enough confidence to do something greater this season.


hwasin had 2 bats also:/

I agree with you although i think everytime hwasin is playing his best there is 2-3 guys who is just better, sooner or later he's going to bump into one of those.
This time he did really good though, lets wait for the best of Xs.

Firebathero knowcked out, no shame though.. entering a tourny, first two players you have to beat is Flash and jaedong omg.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
February 05 2009 22:55 GMT
#1328
On February 06 2009 07:52 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2009 07:33 OneOther wrote:
On February 06 2009 03:21 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
On February 06 2009 02:53 OneOther wrote:
On February 06 2009 02:50 Ideas wrote:
On February 05 2009 22:55 Dazed_Spy wrote:
flash threw his game against hwasin so he could rape his competition for the terran throne.

Fact.



more like JD threw his game vs hwasin to get revenge vs FBH


But srsly all the games in this group were AWESOME

sucks that JD didn't make it out :\, I was hoping for some JD vs Leta action.

Flash vs leta should still be good though :D

More like JD got outplayed by Hwasin's micro&timing!
4/4, woohoo.


more like jaedong is too greedy to make a sunken
whasin beating flash was a real upset imo. I actually thought flash would win until he sacrificed all his vultures and lost mapcontrol..

Well, Jaedong thought he could handle the marines/medics with Zerglings. For a second it looked like he could.

Haha it's kinda funny how in the MSL (I think it was) Group Selections, many players voted Hwasin as the guy with great skills and horrible luck. I can't agree more. He's certianly good enough to have a badge, yet he always ran into immovable walls like Bisu, sAviOr at his prime, Jaedong, etc. I am really happy he managed to do this last night - it was a statement. Hopefully it provides him enough confidence to do something greater this season.


hwasin had 2 bats also:/

I agree with you although i think everytime hwasin is playing his best there is 2-3 guys who is just better, sooner or later he's going to bump into one of those.
This time he did really good though, lets wait for the best of Xs.

Firebathero knowcked out, no shame though.. entering a tourny, first two players you have to beat is Flash and jaedong omg.

Two bats arrived when the battle was pretty much over, didn't they?
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
February 05 2009 22:59 GMT
#1329
Hwasin and Casy really made me want to play Terran back in the day.

But then I realized I had no idea wtf I was doing and I didn't understand anything.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
February 05 2009 23:02 GMT
#1330
On February 06 2009 07:55 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2009 07:52 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
On February 06 2009 07:33 OneOther wrote:
On February 06 2009 03:21 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
On February 06 2009 02:53 OneOther wrote:
On February 06 2009 02:50 Ideas wrote:
On February 05 2009 22:55 Dazed_Spy wrote:
flash threw his game against hwasin so he could rape his competition for the terran throne.

Fact.



more like JD threw his game vs hwasin to get revenge vs FBH


But srsly all the games in this group were AWESOME

sucks that JD didn't make it out :\, I was hoping for some JD vs Leta action.

Flash vs leta should still be good though :D

More like JD got outplayed by Hwasin's micro&timing!
4/4, woohoo.


more like jaedong is too greedy to make a sunken
whasin beating flash was a real upset imo. I actually thought flash would win until he sacrificed all his vultures and lost mapcontrol..

Well, Jaedong thought he could handle the marines/medics with Zerglings. For a second it looked like he could.

Haha it's kinda funny how in the MSL (I think it was) Group Selections, many players voted Hwasin as the guy with great skills and horrible luck. I can't agree more. He's certianly good enough to have a badge, yet he always ran into immovable walls like Bisu, sAviOr at his prime, Jaedong, etc. I am really happy he managed to do this last night - it was a statement. Hopefully it provides him enough confidence to do something greater this season.


hwasin had 2 bats also:/

I agree with you although i think everytime hwasin is playing his best there is 2-3 guys who is just better, sooner or later he's going to bump into one of those.
This time he did really good though, lets wait for the best of Xs.

Firebathero knowcked out, no shame though.. entering a tourny, first two players you have to beat is Flash and jaedong omg.

Two bats arrived when the battle was pretty much over, didn't they?


Yeah sortof, jaedong had bad positioning. But it doesn't matter, he had more lings produced and those bats made it possible for hwasin to damage jaedongs eco. Without those bats there so early jaedong would have killed the marines and taken no damage.
However i guess hwasin anticipated this and made 2 early bats for killing zerglings. Jaedong did the wrong move, maybe he had not enough scouting information, or he was just too confident with his lings and didn't place a sunken.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8098 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-05 23:03:28
February 05 2009 23:03 GMT
#1331
so weird to see 3 TvZs in 1 night with no mech at all :O


What is this, 2007?
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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
February 05 2009 23:08 GMT
#1332
On February 06 2009 08:03 Ideas wrote:
so weird to see 3 TvZs in 1 night with no mech at all :O


What is this, 2007?


wasnt suprised that fbh and hwasin didn't use mech though.
And flash said in interviews that his mech is weak so he will probably bio;)

Against any other players it would be wierd though yes^^
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
February 05 2009 23:19 GMT
#1333
On February 06 2009 08:02 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2009 07:55 OneOther wrote:
On February 06 2009 07:52 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
On February 06 2009 07:33 OneOther wrote:
On February 06 2009 03:21 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
On February 06 2009 02:53 OneOther wrote:
On February 06 2009 02:50 Ideas wrote:
On February 05 2009 22:55 Dazed_Spy wrote:
flash threw his game against hwasin so he could rape his competition for the terran throne.

Fact.



more like JD threw his game vs hwasin to get revenge vs FBH


But srsly all the games in this group were AWESOME

sucks that JD didn't make it out :\, I was hoping for some JD vs Leta action.

Flash vs leta should still be good though :D

More like JD got outplayed by Hwasin's micro&timing!
4/4, woohoo.


more like jaedong is too greedy to make a sunken
whasin beating flash was a real upset imo. I actually thought flash would win until he sacrificed all his vultures and lost mapcontrol..

Well, Jaedong thought he could handle the marines/medics with Zerglings. For a second it looked like he could.

Haha it's kinda funny how in the MSL (I think it was) Group Selections, many players voted Hwasin as the guy with great skills and horrible luck. I can't agree more. He's certianly good enough to have a badge, yet he always ran into immovable walls like Bisu, sAviOr at his prime, Jaedong, etc. I am really happy he managed to do this last night - it was a statement. Hopefully it provides him enough confidence to do something greater this season.


hwasin had 2 bats also:/

I agree with you although i think everytime hwasin is playing his best there is 2-3 guys who is just better, sooner or later he's going to bump into one of those.
This time he did really good though, lets wait for the best of Xs.

Firebathero knowcked out, no shame though.. entering a tourny, first two players you have to beat is Flash and jaedong omg.

Two bats arrived when the battle was pretty much over, didn't they?


Yeah sortof, jaedong had bad positioning. But it doesn't matter, he had more lings produced and those bats made it possible for hwasin to damage jaedongs eco. Without those bats there so early jaedong would have killed the marines and taken no damage.
However i guess hwasin anticipated this and made 2 early bats for killing zerglings. Jaedong did the wrong move, maybe he had not enough scouting information, or he was just too confident with his lings and didn't place a sunken.


well its an easy choice
if you can get away with a bunch of lings instead of a sunken line its way more awesome cuz either

a. he sees the lings and backs off, your mutas come out and you have a deadly muta/ling force right off the bat. GOOD

b. you do a good surround, trade armies, then the mutas come out and he has less marines to defend it back at base than he would like -- GOOD to GREAT depending on how many lings you have left over

only thing bad is

c. you do a completely ineffective surround and now have no lings and no sunk and mutas probably wont come out in time SUCKS

However, I agree with you anyway because Jaedong has proven he CAN take Hwasin in the midgame and has no reason to be putting himself in ANY unecessary risk. Just do a standard # of sunkens for his marine count and go into a normal midgame with a normal late game.
Writerman what
InDaHouse
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden956 Posts
February 05 2009 23:25 GMT
#1334
It sucks Jaedong is out of MSL.

Why did Jaedong go for 2 hatch Muta when Flash easily adapted his FE to this? The muta harass wasn't effective. FlaSh had very good turret placement and enough if marines to defend.

Jaedong also saw with Mutas when science facility and starport were being built so he should have known that FlaSh Vessels were on the way. And STILL Jaedong went Guardians.

The map has narrow entrances that should favor Lurkers? Maybe if he rushed for Defiler instead of Guardians and spend gas to make more Lurkers and 2 Queens he could have crushed that Terran ball.
FlaSh is a player that rarely makes big mistakes and it looked Jaedong was behind that game all the time and the reason for that is that he choosed a bad strategy for the map and FlaSh knew what Jaedong was up to.

I'm not a expert so correct me if I'm wrong.

Imo FlaSh played safe and Jaedong lack of strategy cost him the game.
Stork protoss legend
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
February 05 2009 23:29 GMT
#1335
This MSL still has a lot of quality player/games left, waaay more than the last one (emphasis on games), I'm still excited even without JD. Though I will dearly miss his presence in the tournament.
Jaedong
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
February 05 2009 23:34 GMT
#1336
Fuckkkkkkkkkkkk Jaedong =( Sigh......this is only a sign for Savior to dominate this MSL like he has for many MSLs. Jaedong to take OSL!!! But still sad to see him go so early....
KT_Violet
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
February 06 2009 00:19 GMT
#1337
jaedong better kick some ass in the OSL
Creationism
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
China505 Posts
February 06 2009 00:21 GMT
#1338
jaedong had it fucking rough, having to practice against 3 completely different styles of tvz. hwasin is a early game player from the old day, fbh is fucking great vs lair tech, n flash is a fucking late game monster. so hard to prepare for.
The hoi polloi is the plague upon the world.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
February 06 2009 00:34 GMT
#1339
On February 06 2009 09:21 Creationism wrote:
jaedong had it fucking rough, having to practice against 3 completely different styles of tvz. hwasin is a early game player from the old day, fbh is fucking great vs lair tech, n flash is a fucking late game monster. so hard to prepare for.

It was equally tough for his opponents, since they had to play 2 races, though I guess JD one ups that with his 4 proleague games + game vs Luxury.
Jaedong
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
February 06 2009 00:53 GMT
#1340
On February 06 2009 08:08 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2009 08:03 Ideas wrote:
so weird to see 3 TvZs in 1 night with no mech at all :O


What is this, 2007?


wasnt suprised that fbh and hwasin didn't use mech though.
And flash said in interviews that his mech is weak so he will probably bio;)

Against any other players it would be wierd though yes^^

hwasin hasnt been much of a mech user either, once on medusa vs some bad zerg is all i remember

his bio play is so good when hes on that theres not much reason for him to switch.
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