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On January 28 2009 20:33 RivetHead wrote:
Lol. Ya what do you mean he can't be serious? Bisu has more accomplishments than any protoss in history. In doing so he brought about the new era, where the average skill level for the pros (especially the top tier ones) is absolutely unreal. He is one of the best, like a Nada, Savior, July, Oov, only even more current. Now note 3 of those I mentioned were bonjwas, which Bisu isn't (but July is); but he is part of the elite club of winning 3 starleagues of the same type, the only protoss to do so.
And if Bisu takes down GOM, he'll be the first protoss to win 4 individual tourneys.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 28 2009 20:26 a-game wrote:some of you guys need to tone it down a bit, the starcraft community should stick together, you can hate a particular player all you want but don't treat other fans like dogshit just because we're cheering for that player  people shouldn't have to be afraid to root for their fav player without getting jeered at by our fellow starcraft droogies  On January 28 2009 20:26 Matoo- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2009 20:11 oneofthem wrote:
being a fan of performances is mostly bandwagoning. historically, winning means more following, and memorable moments are winning ones. mindless bandwagoning is the first moment of fandom, and every fandom has mindless bandwagoning to thank.
if you happen to like bad performances or mindlessly bandwagon according to nationality, moral character or shapeliness of facial features, good luck with your bandwagon bro. i'll just sit here and rationally derive my objective following with sound and valid arguments for the ages. The problem of bandwagoners is that as soon as the said player or team will stop winning everything, they'll jump to the next flavor of the month in a blink. That's what I despise the most in bandwagoners. A true fan is one who continues to cheer for the same player or team even if they're slumping. I'm nearly beginning to regret the time when everyone + brother was bandwagoning for Lecaf and we SKT fans were only a handful because SKT still didn't have Bisu or Best and was sucking hard.
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On January 28 2009 20:35 XYoonZ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2009 20:33 RivetHead wrote:
Lol. Ya what do you mean he can't be serious? Bisu has more accomplishments than any protoss in history. In doing so he brought about the new era, where the average skill level for the pros (especially the top tier ones) is absolutely unreal. He is one of the best, like a Nada, Savior, July, Oov, only even more current. Now note 3 of those I mentioned were bonjwas, which Bisu isn't (as well as July); but he is part of the elite club of winning 3 starleagues of the same type, the only protoss to do so.
And if Bisu takes down GOM, he'll be the first protoss to win 4 individual tourneys.
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Russian Federation1612 Posts
I don't like Bisu much, but he is the first man who deserves to be in OSL group
His strange loss to hero is like loss of Jaedong to han.
Mind and Light? Not consistent now and not pretenders for OSL win where play elite such as Jaedong/Flash/Stork/Leta/Fantasy/Best/Twins/July
With BackHo it would be just funny but with Bisu it will be more complete OSL and more fair
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wow, one of the most balanced OSL's ever?
5/6/5 ratio
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On January 28 2009 20:39 GTR-2-Go wrote:
wow, one of the most balanced OSL's ever?
5/6/5 ratio
Yeah, I'm quite looking forward to it.
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On January 28 2009 20:26 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2009 20:22 Ace wrote:On January 28 2009 20:21 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On January 28 2009 20:15 Ace wrote:On January 28 2009 20:11 Maenander wrote:On January 28 2009 20:06 Ace wrote:On January 28 2009 20:03 Plexa wrote:On January 28 2009 20:00 Ace wrote:
I think it's more of the protoss fanboys + the maps + Bisu getting fortunate that makes people upset. If Bisu loses, there's an excuse. If he wins it's because he had the best micro, macro and game sense on the planet.
Seriously, it's only so many times you can read it. It's even WORSE than the Savior fanboys now.
God forbid Boxer or Anytime make an OSL again (ppl forget how fortunate Anytime was in his OSL run). <3 I feel exactly the same way about everything you said Anytime's shinhan 2 run makes me angry even today =[ me too :/ I still remember reading the LR match vs Xellos and it literally came down to a drop vs drop situation where Xellos' vulture drop was THIS close to ending the game. Anytime makes it to the finals and literally out of no where a billion protozombies crawl out of the TL.net soil. and here it is with Bisu again. God I hate you people  1. Bisu isn´t exactly a one-starleague-wonder like Anytime. 2. Anytime showed during several proleague seasons that he is a much more consistent player than Casy or Sync, other one-starleague-wonders. Has Bisu won an OSL AND placed second in another? Stupid question, it's like asking if Anytime won 3 MSL like oov/nada/savior did, placed second in another one and got bronze in OSL. Don't even try. I like anytime but you can't compare his accomplishements with bisu's. you can't be serious can you? NO IT'S A BLATANT TROLL
can u for once make a solid post, please ?
using caps and throwin` in flamebait stuff like: savior is shit, july is the zerg god isn`t any good either
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Bisu!!! OMG I couldn't watch this. So happy Bisu's back in OSL :-)
and LOL @ Magma
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On January 28 2009 20:37 Jenia6109 wrote:
With BackHo it would be just funny but with Bisu it will be more complete OSL and more fair
complete? yes, but fair?! no way!
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MrHoon
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speaking of the OSL
the fucking opening better not be crappy. I want a good opening for this OSL
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On January 28 2009 20:39 GTR-2-Go wrote:
wow, one of the most balanced OSL's ever?
5/6/5 ratio
Yeah, I'm quite looking forward to it.
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On January 28 2009 20:45 Jaeden wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2009 20:26 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On January 28 2009 20:22 Ace wrote:On January 28 2009 20:21 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On January 28 2009 20:15 Ace wrote:On January 28 2009 20:11 Maenander wrote:On January 28 2009 20:06 Ace wrote:On January 28 2009 20:03 Plexa wrote:On January 28 2009 20:00 Ace wrote:
I think it's more of the protoss fanboys + the maps + Bisu getting fortunate that makes people upset. If Bisu loses, there's an excuse. If he wins it's because he had the best micro, macro and game sense on the planet.
Seriously, it's only so many times you can read it. It's even WORSE than the Savior fanboys now.
God forbid Boxer or Anytime make an OSL again (ppl forget how fortunate Anytime was in his OSL run). <3 I feel exactly the same way about everything you said Anytime's shinhan 2 run makes me angry even today =[ me too :/ I still remember reading the LR match vs Xellos and it literally came down to a drop vs drop situation where Xellos' vulture drop was THIS close to ending the game. Anytime makes it to the finals and literally out of no where a billion protozombies crawl out of the TL.net soil. and here it is with Bisu again. God I hate you people 1. Bisu isn´t exactly a one-starleague-wonder like Anytime. 2. Anytime showed during several proleague seasons that he is a much more consistent player than Casy or Sync, other one-starleague-wonders. Has Bisu won an OSL AND placed second in another? Stupid question, it's like asking if Anytime won 3 MSL like oov/nada/savior did, placed second in another one and got bronze in OSL. Don't even try. I like anytime but you can't compare his accomplishements with bisu's. you can't be serious can you? NO IT'S A BLATANT TROLL can u for once make a solid post, please ? using caps and throwin` in flamebait stuff like: savior is shit, july is the zerg god isn`t any good either
how am i supposed to make a solid post when he simply asks me "you can't be serious can you?" ? If my first point wasnt clear enough, i can't do anything about it. Also i never said that savior was shit or anything, some guy said that savior's performance lately was top2 (with july) and i simply replied that a 5-5 record in his last 10 games was not enough to be even considered PR material. And you simply quoted me by saying "fail", that's not exactly a quality post either. Anyway If you feel like continuing this discussion, send me a pm.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On January 28 2009 20:26 Matoo- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2009 20:11 oneofthem wrote:
being a fan of performances is mostly bandwagoning. historically, winning means more following, and memorable moments are winning ones. mindless bandwagoning is the first moment of fandom, and every fandom has mindless bandwagoning to thank.
if you happen to like bad performances or mindlessly bandwagon according to nationality, moral character or shapeliness of facial features, good luck with your bandwagon bro. i'll just sit here and rationally derive my objective following with sound and valid arguments for the ages. The problem of bandwagoners is that as soon as the said player or team will stop winning everything, they'll jump to the next flavor of the month in a blink. That's what I despise the most in bandwagoners. A true fan is one who continues to cheer for the same player or team even if they're slumping. I'm nearly beginning to regret the time when everyone + brother was bandwagoning for Lecaf and we SKT fans were only a handful because SKT still didn't have Bisu or Best and was sucking hard.
not everyone treats following a scene with the same seriousness. notice that it is always antifans calling out fans for bandwagoning, and hardcore fans of winning teams do not call out their own new fans, regardless of how superior they feel. agitation against bandwagoning is just another form of bandwagoning, as fans of losing players and teams feel bad for losing the general momentum, the momentum that has them envisioning bandwagoners as tidal creatures mindlessly carried by the flow. but it is not the mindless carrying that they are really worried about, it is that the flow is not going their way.
truth be told, even in darker times, the hero is still imagined to be dominant, if not in the present scene, then in the grand scheme of history. the hardcore fans merely bandwagon in an illusion rather than reality.
you can't feel too glib for being more hardcore with your shipping than the other guy with his, it is a game after all.
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CA10828 Posts
ugh medusa makes me so so angry.
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MrHoon
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On January 28 2009 20:59 LosingID8 wrote:
ugh medusa makes me so so angry.
makes you wonder how different it would be if you were allowed to build in the center.
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On January 28 2009 20:53 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2009 20:45 Jaeden wrote:On January 28 2009 20:26 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On January 28 2009 20:22 Ace wrote:On January 28 2009 20:21 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On January 28 2009 20:15 Ace wrote:On January 28 2009 20:11 Maenander wrote:On January 28 2009 20:06 Ace wrote:On January 28 2009 20:03 Plexa wrote:On January 28 2009 20:00 Ace wrote:
I think it's more of the protoss fanboys + the maps + Bisu getting fortunate that makes people upset. If Bisu loses, there's an excuse. If he wins it's because he had the best micro, macro and game sense on the planet.
Seriously, it's only so many times you can read it. It's even WORSE than the Savior fanboys now.
God forbid Boxer or Anytime make an OSL again (ppl forget how fortunate Anytime was in his OSL run). <3 I feel exactly the same way about everything you said Anytime's shinhan 2 run makes me angry even today =[ me too :/ I still remember reading the LR match vs Xellos and it literally came down to a drop vs drop situation where Xellos' vulture drop was THIS close to ending the game. Anytime makes it to the finals and literally out of no where a billion protozombies crawl out of the TL.net soil. and here it is with Bisu again. God I hate you people 1. Bisu isn´t exactly a one-starleague-wonder like Anytime. 2. Anytime showed during several proleague seasons that he is a much more consistent player than Casy or Sync, other one-starleague-wonders. Has Bisu won an OSL AND placed second in another? Stupid question, it's like asking if Anytime won 3 MSL like oov/nada/savior did, placed second in another one and got bronze in OSL. Don't even try. I like anytime but you can't compare his accomplishements with bisu's. you can't be serious can you? NO IT'S A BLATANT TROLL can u for once make a solid post, please ? using caps and throwin` in flamebait stuff like: savior is shit, july is the zerg god isn`t any good either how am i supposed to make a solid post when he simply asks me "you can't be serious can you?" ? If my first point wasnt clear enough, i can't do anything about it. Also i never said that savior was shit or anything, some guy said that savior's performance lately was top2 (with july) and i simply replied that a 5-5 record in his last 10 games was not enough to be even considered PR material. And you simply quoted me by saying "fail", that's not exactly a quality post either. Anyway If you feel like continuing this discussion, send me a pm.
sayin` that july is the true maestro = savior is not...u can`t expect a good post in response to that... oh well, forget it
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LOOL He did id. In your face all ya haters
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