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I wanna see at least one upset tonight :D
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Mind kinda looks like he's made of clay.
Anyways, just how badly of a rape will the first game be?
BackHo has a decent chance of beating Stork if he DT rushes like last time.
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This is the end of the ride for pepe
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Mind looks like a murderer
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Only 2 hours away and both Stork and Jangbi are still at the proleague place.
Great scheduling, KESPA. Couldn't have made Khan play yesterday instead.
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Probably going to be Stork and JangBi advancing.
But pepe advancing would make me happy.
+ Show Spoiler +...And BackHo advancing would make me lol.
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BACKHO OWN THIS NOOB
ok probably not going to happen but Stork's still guilty by his association to players like Jangbi and Frozean
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I hope Stork gets BackHo'd again.
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even if by some mirical crackho is winning, he will get cocky and be like zizi yo. then he will lose
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Jangbi 2-0 Pepe Stork 2-0 Failho
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I've never understood the hate for BackHo.
Whoo, go BackHo, defeat Stork!
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*PL Spoiler* + Show Spoiler +After Jangbi's performance in PL there is no way he is losing
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time for pepe's taco stand to get tossed up, UNLESS he serves up something ... cheesy
ok trying again...
stork's gonna backdoor that ho
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On December 28 2008 16:25 Shiznick wrote: I've never understood the hate for BackHo.
Whoo, go BackHo, defeat Stork! It's more like lol, he's kinda bad. I think only a few people really hate it, it's more that we make fun of him.
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On December 28 2008 16:31 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 16:25 Shiznick wrote: I've never understood the hate for BackHo.
Whoo, go BackHo, defeat Stork! It's more like lol, he's kinda bad. I think only a few people really hate it, it's more that we make fun of him.
I love FailHo. Doesn't mean I always root for him (in fact, I frequently root against him), but nobody brings me more laughs.
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+ Show Spoiler +Yeah, and an amazing game against Kal. Really, Jangbi can be in TERRIBLE shape and still embarrass pepe. His game against Hwasin showed holes, but he showed amazing play a few minutes later in his worse match up, so what is one semi sloppy game really? Not much.
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On December 28 2008 16:33 darktreb wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 16:31 Avidkeystamper wrote:On December 28 2008 16:25 Shiznick wrote: I've never understood the hate for BackHo.
Whoo, go BackHo, defeat Stork! It's more like lol, he's kinda bad. I think only a few people really hate it, it's more that we make fun of him. I love FailHo. Doesn't mean I always root for him (in fact, I frequently root against him), but nobody brings me more laughs. Wow, my grammar goes through the gutter @ 11:30. Better catch some Z's.
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+ Show Spoiler + How do you call dodging 6 vessels of emps with his arbs awful arbiter play?
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Jangbi who eats terrans for breakfast and Stork who happens to be one of the best pvp players out there, this does not look good for pepe and Backho.
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On December 28 2008 16:34 Dazed_Spy wrote: + Show Spoiler +Yeah, and an amazing game against Kal. Really, Jangbi can be in TERRIBLE shape and still embarrass pepe. His game against Hwasin showed holes, but he showed amazing play a few minutes later in his worse match up, so what is one semi sloppy game really? Not much.
+ Show Spoiler +Uh alot actually if your sloppy in the matchup now your not going to be any less sloppy two hours later
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On December 28 2008 16:37 Kuja900 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 16:34 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 28 2008 16:31 Nitan wrote:On December 28 2008 16:29 mrgerry wrote:*PL Spoiler* + Show Spoiler +After Jangbi's performance in PL there is no way he is losing + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler +Yeah, and an amazing game against Kal. Really, Jangbi can be in TERRIBLE shape and still embarrass pepe. His game against Hwasin showed holes, but he showed amazing play a few minutes later in his worse match up, so what is one semi sloppy game really? Not much.
+ Show Spoiler +Uh alot actually if your sloppy in the matchup now your not going to be any less sloppy two hours later + Show Spoiler +Uh...yeah you can be. In a series you can go from having sloppy play to god like play, its all mentality. Starcraft is muscle memory for these people, Jangbi has the skill to play god like pvt, and it goes without saying he has the skill to make pepe consider retirement.
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Go pepe ... old school players makes me feel happy
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This is going to be absolute rape. I hope pepe has some crazy play prepared against jangbi.
backho vs stork... yea. no comment.
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well imma grab them zz now
will check in the morning, I'm sure I won't be surprised
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LETS GO BACKHO
I love Stork, but wouldn't it be awesome if BackHo won?
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if backho beats stork in a series....
nah, won't happen.
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Stork is not creative enough to deal with the ZiZiYo rush
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On December 28 2008 17:36 LosingID8 wrote: if backho beats stork in a series....
nah, won't happen.
Won't happen again right?
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Osaka27149 Posts
If someone could update me on the tourney so far, that would be great. How many rounds before this, and any major story lines?
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Let's go Stork and Jangbi!
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On December 28 2008 17:54 Manifesto7 wrote: If someone could update me on the tourney so far, that would be great. How many rounds before this, and any major story lines?
nvm, read the r+s thread. its awesome.
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Daniel Lee? Awesome! But does this mean no more lilsusie?
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lol.... wtf was that.... puts the money down his shirt.
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wow daniel lee is commentating with tasteless. its on right now
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On December 28 2008 17:54 Manifesto7 wrote: If someone could update me on the tourney so far, that would be great. How many rounds before this, and any major story lines?
Here's the R&S thread
Major stories, in brief: Started in the round of 256 (with 180 players) 2 rounds of 64 (one round with seeded players, one round without) Currently at the end of the round of 16... the 6th round "Tourney of upsets" Tossgirl beat someone in a series (modern[fou]) pepe eliminated July. free[gm] eliminated savior. tempest eliminated Jaedong (last season's winner) There are no Zerg left in the tournament. Majority of remaining players are Protoss.
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Daniel Lee, great! I missed the beginning, why is he there instead of Susie?
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aaagh crap
can anyone extract the VLC link from GOM? lol T.T
[korean or english speaking, i <3 my brother, but any version of starcraft will satisfy my fix]
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On December 28 2008 18:02 blabber wrote:Daniel Lee? Awesome! But does this mean no more lilsusie?
maybe she just couldnt make it tonight?
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On December 28 2008 17:58 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 17:54 Manifesto7 wrote: If someone could update me on the tourney so far, that would be great. How many rounds before this, and any major story lines? nvm, read the r+s thread. its awesome.
The biggest point of this tournament is nearly every favorite lost. I'll put it like this as a fan I've been so wrong on every game that I have gone to reverse picking to try and be correct.
That said, Backho has a chance on gom.
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On December 28 2008 18:02 Day[9] wrote: aaagh crap
can anyone extract the VLC link from GOM? lol T.T
[korean or english speaking, i <3 my brother, but any version of starcraft will satisfy my fix]
if you tell me how i will.
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On December 28 2008 18:03 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:02 blabber wrote:Daniel Lee? Awesome! But does this mean no more lilsusie? maybe she just couldnt make it tonight?
I guess, although don't they have the other guy that usually english casts when tasteless can't make it? although many he doesn't know korean...
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That money slip was so funny. I'm always impressed by tasteless
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Day9, try http://65.49.46.27:8199/view.cgi?systype=500&subtype=30&hid=160&nid=99&key=0&impurl=0&cid=9999&title=Averatec-IntelClassic
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On December 28 2008 17:54 Manifesto7 wrote: If someone could update me on the tourney so far, that would be great. How many rounds before this, and any major story lines?
Check out Tempest vs. Pretty[gm] on Medusa. Stay away from any spoilers. It's a fun game.
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On December 28 2008 18:03 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:02 blabber wrote:Daniel Lee? Awesome! But does this mean no more lilsusie? maybe she just couldnt make it tonight?
Tasteless said she was sick.
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Mmm, yeah, that link works in the GomPlayer =/ I'm not sure for VLC then sorry :<
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god trying to watch starcraft on a mac is sooo hard. i can't wait to get back to LA T.T
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YES! They're replacing lilsusie with Daniel Lee!! Great decision. She was totally incompetent.
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Get on AIM and I'll narrate it to you, Sean.
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Speaking of long games on Requiem, wasn't there some reallllly long pvz that involved mass carriers and corsairs and DAs and temps vs mass devourer, defiler, muta, hydra? Maybe savior was in it and lost? Or am I insane? It would have been the first time it was used, years ago.
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On December 28 2008 18:08 LonelyMargarita wrote: Speaking of long games on Requiem, wasn't there some reallllly long pvz that involved mass carriers and corsairs and DAs and temps vs mass devourer, defiler, muta, hydra? Maybe savior was in it and lost? Or am I insane? It would have been the first time it was used, years ago.
Reach vs. Chojja?
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On December 28 2008 18:08 WebOfMaya wrote: YES! They're replacing lilsusie with Daniel Lee!! Great decision. She was totally incompetent.
-_-;; I don't think they were replacing her- I would believe that she's sick, and they need someone who knows korean
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That's weird Day9. I just tried that link in VLC myself and it worked fine :S Very odd.
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On December 28 2008 18:08 WebOfMaya wrote: YES! They're replacing lilsusie with Daniel Lee!! Great decision. She was totally incompetent.
stfu ok
I really hope pepe can win this, the Protoss players need to lose. Still against Jangbis PvT is sick.
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oh really? there's a strong possibility that i'm just a huge idiot
i mean like REAALLY strong. lemme try it again
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On December 28 2008 18:08 WebOfMaya wrote: YES! They're replacing lilsusie with Daniel Lee!! Great decision. She was totally incompetent.
totally incompetent.
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On December 28 2008 18:10 Roxen000 wrote: That's weird Day9. I just tried that link in VLC myself and it worked fine :S Very odd.
HAHAHAHA NO WAY I GOT IT TO WORK ON THE 5th TRY!
wow i fucking SUCK dude!! LOL thank you sosososo much!! you have made me the happiest geek alive.
be my valentine?
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United States13896 Posts
the sound effects seem so loud in comparison to their voices today X(
but daniel lee is casting ^-^ . SUPER DANIEL away!
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I just opened VLC, went File > Open Network Stream and in the Advanced Options section I copied it into the Customize menu thing.
Edit: Haha, yeah. I thought it worked. Enjoy!
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Maaan, Superdaniel just spoiled todays PL :<
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On December 28 2008 18:11 lilsusie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:08 WebOfMaya wrote: YES! They're replacing lilsusie with Daniel Lee!! Great decision. She was totally incompetent. totally incompetent.
hahahaha...
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On December 28 2008 18:12 lb wrote: Maaan, Superdaniel just spoiled todays PL :<
Didn't hear it, please don't spoil it again in this thread =)
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On December 28 2008 18:12 lb wrote: Maaan, Superdaniel just spoiled todays PL :< Yeah that dude is incompetent, bring back lilsusie.
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On December 28 2008 18:13 NotSupporting wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:12 lb wrote: Maaan, Superdaniel just spoiled todays PL :< Didn't hear it, please don't spoil it again in this thread =)
lol you guys are unbelievable with the spoilers. it really doesnt matter...
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On December 28 2008 18:11 lilsusie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:08 WebOfMaya wrote: YES! They're replacing lilsusie with Daniel Lee!! Great decision. She was totally incompetent. totally incompetent. Just goes to show that you can't please 'em all... Hope you feel better.
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On December 28 2008 18:11 lilsusie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:08 WebOfMaya wrote: YES! They're replacing lilsusie with Daniel Lee!! Great decision. She was totally incompetent. totally incompetent.
That suckers nuked. Ahaha.
I miss you Susie.
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On December 28 2008 18:11 lilsusie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:08 WebOfMaya wrote: YES! They're replacing lilsusie with Daniel Lee!! Great decision. She was totally incompetent. totally incompetent.
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On December 28 2008 18:11 lilsusie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:08 WebOfMaya wrote: YES! They're replacing lilsusie with Daniel Lee!! Great decision. She was totally incompetent. totally incompetent.
She might have not been good at commenting, but I liked the few times when she filled us in on things the Korean announcers were saying that tasteless missed.
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What is with all this incompetence being thrown around. Both lilsusie and Super Daniel are good casters...
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Sorry guys, haven't had the flu this bad since I was in school. It would have been bad to be broadcasted looking like this...
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Anyone want to say what Daniel said about mouses? I missed that part.
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On December 28 2008 18:13 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:13 NotSupporting wrote:On December 28 2008 18:12 lb wrote: Maaan, Superdaniel just spoiled todays PL :< Didn't hear it, please don't spoil it again in this thread =) lol you guys are unbelievable with the spoilers. it really doesnt matter... Oh, so you know if getting matches spoiled matters to me. wait, what?
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On December 28 2008 18:14 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:11 lilsusie wrote:On December 28 2008 18:08 WebOfMaya wrote: YES! They're replacing lilsusie with Daniel Lee!! Great decision. She was totally incompetent. totally incompetent. That suckers nuked. Ahaha. I miss you Susie. No more Susie at all?!?
Atleast in interviews??? please!
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On December 28 2008 18:16 Puosu wrote: Anyone want to say what Daniel said about mouses? I missed that part.
Basically they all use their own mouse/keyboard. Nothing interesting.
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Hope you get well soon Susie.
I hope pepe suffers for knocking out July! MELT HIM WITH YOUR STORMS JANGBI.
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On December 28 2008 18:15 joyeaux wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:11 lilsusie wrote:On December 28 2008 18:08 WebOfMaya wrote: YES! They're replacing lilsusie with Daniel Lee!! Great decision. She was totally incompetent. totally incompetent. She might have not been good at commenting, but I liked the few times when she filled us in on things the Korean announcers were saying that tasteless missed.
Don't worry she will be back next week ^^
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Yeah, everyone keep that link. It has worked ever since day 1, season 1.
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United States17042 Posts
tasteless has gotten really good at not getting owned by the intro
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On December 28 2008 18:17 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:16 Puosu wrote: Anyone want to say what Daniel said about mouses? I missed that part. Basically they all use their own mouse/keyboard. Nothing interesting. oh, I thought he told something revolutionary >.>
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On December 28 2008 18:15 lilsusie wrote: Sorry guys, haven't had the flu this bad since I was in school. It would have been bad to be broadcasted looking like this...
ok well, can you watch the korean broadcasting and tell us the things they are saying? that was my favorite part of your casting, you'd fill us in on what the korean casters were saying about different players, like yoon yong tae getting flustered by a mirror build in pvp.
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United States17042 Posts
pepe in the left, jangbi at bottom
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On December 28 2008 18:08 LonelyMargarita wrote: Speaking of long games on Requiem, wasn't there some reallllly long pvz that involved mass carriers and corsairs and DAs and temps vs mass devourer, defiler, muta, hydra? Maybe savior was in it and lost? Or am I insane? It would have been the first time it was used, years ago. stork vs gorush PL finals?
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im sad to see susie absent from this one, but i would say daniel lee is a worthy replacement :D
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Well, daniel spoiled every one of tasteless' jokes. I mean, it is no longer a casual cast.
edit: Well, it is still good, just not "as" good.
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United States17042 Posts
12 rax/12 gas from pepe, pylon gas from jangbi
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On December 28 2008 18:17 Puosu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:17 baubo wrote:On December 28 2008 18:16 Puosu wrote: Anyone want to say what Daniel said about mouses? I missed that part. Basically they all use their own mouse/keyboard. Nothing interesting. oh, I thought he told something revolutionary >.>
From the start, the players had to use the mouse/keyboard the the sponsors gave to them. But then there were this player who just wouldn't do this, he wanted to use his own mouse/keyboard. That started a trend among progamers and made it like the way it is today. Correct me if I am wrong anyone.
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On December 28 2008 18:19 NotSupporting wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:17 Puosu wrote:On December 28 2008 18:17 baubo wrote:On December 28 2008 18:16 Puosu wrote: Anyone want to say what Daniel said about mouses? I missed that part. Basically they all use their own mouse/keyboard. Nothing interesting. oh, I thought he told something revolutionary >.> From the start, the players had to use the mouse/keyboard the the sponsors gave to them. But then there were this player who just wouldn't do this, he wanted to use his own mouse/keyboard. That started a trend among progamers and made it like the way it is today. Correct me if I am wrong anyone.
and the player was eVERLAST[9]
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On December 28 2008 18:16 Puosu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:14 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:On December 28 2008 18:11 lilsusie wrote:On December 28 2008 18:08 WebOfMaya wrote: YES! They're replacing lilsusie with Daniel Lee!! Great decision. She was totally incompetent. totally incompetent. That suckers nuked. Ahaha. I miss you Susie. No more Susie at all?!? Atleast in interviews??? please!
She's apparently just sick, but I still miss her. She may not be the most indepth, but she adds something fun to the cast.
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how do I change the audio channel to left?
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United States17042 Posts
jangbi spots the wall, and still chooses to go with zeal before core to harass
1 scv on gas as they commented- siege expand seems likely, or a hidden second rax if he's feeling really cheesy xD
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hahah scv at the crucifix praying for his other comrades in battle, my god, Tasteless is gold.
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United States17042 Posts
1 gate cyber robo from jangbi, second gate added after robo
siege expand for pepe, cc started
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Well, as someone who's a complete beginner to Starcraft I've appreciated that Susie doesn't try to commentate right alongside Tasteless, but asks him questions so poor young souls like myself can follow along with his reasoning.
Today's fill-in seems like a cool guy though, here's hoping Terran isn't wiped out of this tournament as well...
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jangbi going to expand at 3
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hmmm, could be a longer game.
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United States17042 Posts
jangbi expands to another main (3)
pepe gets his nat, obs first from jangbi
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On December 28 2008 18:23 Catalyst wrote: Well, as someone who's a complete beginner to Starcraft I've appreciated that Susie doesn't try to commentate right alongside Tasteless, but asks him questions so poor young souls like myself can follow along with his reasoning.
Today's fill-in seems like a cool guy though, here's hoping Terran isn't wiped out of this tournament as well...
The fill-in is the ex-coach of estro
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Jangbi getting really agressive now.
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On December 28 2008 18:23 Catalyst wrote: Well, as someone who's a complete beginner to Starcraft I've appreciated that Susie doesn't try to commentate right alongside Tasteless, but asks him questions so poor young souls like myself can follow along with his reasoning.
Today's fill-in seems like a cool guy though, here's hoping Terran isn't wiped out of this tournament as well...
SUPER DANIEL MAN!!!! :D
Daniel Lee is like, the biggest face of eSports that isn't a player.
BTW: Terran is going to be gone, but failed bulldog while I typed.
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jangbi tries to rush into pepe's base with 4 goons and 2 zeals, snipes 2 of the tanks, loses 2 goons and 2 zeals. pepe loses like 4 scv's
jangbi expands again to his nat, pepe's at 3 tanks right nnow
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it's nice that they aren't talking over the koreans anymore!
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United States17042 Posts
5 gates now for jangbi, as well as a cidetel that just finished. 3 more facts building for pepe (5 total)
pepe looks like he's going to try to push out, starts laying mines to get a little farther out of his nat
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Nice Z-bomb by JangBi, and beautiful mine drag.
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gg right there, pepe fails his push
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United States17042 Posts
jangbi breaks the push with about 12 goons and 10 zeals. Pretty cool. pepe gets pushed back into his main, and isn't really going to have enough tanks. I wonder if pepe scouted the fact that jangbi has a third
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haha, "pepe could manage a push by sometime tomorrow"
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wow daniel is just awesome
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On December 28 2008 18:16 Day[9] wrote:
important note to headphone users you can change the audio channel to "left" and you hear it in both ears. its SO hilarious it works like that
how do I set the audio channel to "left" ?
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I love Jangbi's aggressive style.
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United States17042 Posts
zeals make it onto the lower ground again, the tanks are dying, no scv's are mining att the nat,
mass zeals make it through now, gg from pepe
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Why does Tasteless say the game is going to the 3rd match? Have I missed something :/
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GG tasteless's gg have been more flamboyant with daniel lee there
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On December 28 2008 18:31 joyeaux wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:16 Day[9] wrote:
important note to headphone users you can change the audio channel to "left" and you hear it in both ears. its SO hilarious it works like that how do I set the audio channel to "left" ?
right click on the screen Audio--> select stream--> left
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On December 28 2008 18:32 NotSupporting wrote: Why does Tasteless say the game is going to the 3rd match? Have I missed something :/
He can seeee the future!
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Tasteless confused the fuck out of me
i was like 'huh first game went where?'
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On December 28 2008 18:32 NotSupporting wrote: Why does Tasteless say the game is going to the 3rd match? Have I missed something :/
no idea... maybe he thinks medusa is a T auto win?
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On December 28 2008 18:32 NotSupporting wrote: Why does Tasteless say the game is going to the 3rd match? Have I missed something :/
He's just misspeaking. You obviously don't watch him commentate too often
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On December 28 2008 18:33 krazymunky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:31 joyeaux wrote:On December 28 2008 18:16 Day[9] wrote:
important note to headphone users you can change the audio channel to "left" and you hear it in both ears. its SO hilarious it works like that how do I set the audio channel to "left" ? right click on the screen Audio--> select stream--> left
AWESOME! thanks, that was driving me nuts!
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United States17042 Posts
alright, medusa, pepe at left, jangbi at bottom again
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What did pepe do wrong that game?
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On December 28 2008 18:26 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:23 Catalyst wrote: Well, as someone who's a complete beginner to Starcraft I've appreciated that Susie doesn't try to commentate right alongside Tasteless, but asks him questions so poor young souls like myself can follow along with his reasoning.
Today's fill-in seems like a cool guy though, here's hoping Terran isn't wiped out of this tournament as well... The fill-in is the ex-coach of estro Haha, yeah...like I said, I'm pretty green on the whole scene.
Daniel Lee...it's certainly interesting to have someone who knows the game, mechanics and strategies better than Tasteless commentate with him.
C'mon, Pepe! At least bring home one victory!
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On December 28 2008 18:34 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: What did pepe do wrong that game?
playing macro against jangbi (on requiem)
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On December 28 2008 18:34 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: What did pepe do wrong that game?
he tried to play standard on a map that is very imbalanced in favor of P in PvT. he had to do something non-standard.
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wall off for pepe on medusa, he saves an scv
1 gate cyber, zeal first for jangbi
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On December 28 2008 18:33 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:32 NotSupporting wrote: Why does Tasteless say the game is going to the 3rd match? Have I missed something :/ He's just misspeaking. You obviously don't watch him commentate too often 
I have watched more or less everything he has commentated in Korea, but I am not watching the stream all the time right now and he said 3rd game a few times.
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range researching for jangbi, pepe expands to the back min only before his first tank finishes
jangbi trying to break the wall
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first tank comes out, jangbi dosen't do any real damage with his first few units, although almost manages to take out the supply
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wow... some cool micro by both the players at that wall.
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On December 28 2008 18:33 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:32 NotSupporting wrote: Why does Tasteless say the game is going to the 3rd match? Have I missed something :/ He's just misspeaking. You obviously don't watch him commentate too often 
He also said "Jangi is going 5 factories." :p
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jangbi goes 1 gate range into reaver, and pepe expands to his back nat min only. turrets are already up, so jangbi is going to need to do damage with this reaver, especially because he's down an expansion.
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lool shuttles need glasses. lololol
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lol elevator music
ELEVATOR ATACKKK
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jangbi is going to try to elevator those units up, and then manage to break the back of pepe.
2 tanks down, and now 4 goons, 2 zeals, and a reaver on high ground, jangbi needs to keep this reaver, and jangbi has now double expanded to make it even
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Alright, Tasteless should NOT take up singing. Ever. Stick to commentating, slick.
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Super Daniel is fuckin awesome.
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Jangbi is getting settled into hyper macro mode.
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vultures come around the map to scout again, jangbi's obs comes up tot get map control with a control of goons no problem.
pepe spots the fourth from jangbi, and pepe's going to need to figure out a timing to hit jangbi. >.>
Tough.
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6 facts goes up for pepe, 8 tanks and two vults right now
about 2 control groups of units for jangbi, as well as a ciditel,
jangbi should be able to run this over no problem
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daniel's comments are soooooooooo insightful fuck
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United States17042 Posts
8 gates for jangbi, sci facility going up, pepe is trying to sneak his fourth, but there's no way that he's going to be able to keep that
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jangbi has ht and arb tech, dropship comes out to try to harass for pepe. pepe is going to push to make sure that he can keep his fourth
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On December 28 2008 18:08 WebOfMaya wrote: YES! They're replacing lilsusie with Daniel Lee!! Great decision. She was totally incompetent.

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omfg can we keep daniel? this guy is good.
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alright, so jangbi and pepe are sitting there and macroing, not much going on. jangbi is setting up for a massive flank as soon as pepe decides to move across the map
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On December 28 2008 18:48 joyeaux wrote: omfg can we keep daniel? this guy is good.
yeah he is amazing and has really insightful comments on the game.
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nick needs to stop saying timing bust.
180 vs 150 camp is suicide...
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United States17042 Posts
jangbi expands to the other main, 9 fact for pepe. pepe's going to need to push out soon, before jangbi gets the whole map and starts recalling and stasising like no tommorow
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it seems like the 6 position has a better opportunity geographically to obtain more expos and defend them.
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WOW STORMS WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWO
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omfg THE STORMS THAT WAS RIDICULOUS
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Jeez, jangbi is raping him so hard it hurts to watch, those storms were just painful
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this is why I love Jangbi
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pepe's 200/200 army moves out, catches pepe's army clumped, psistorms go off, and stasis wasn't even used.
jangbi has even more psistorms that he didn't need to use to break the push
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thats what happens when you clump tanks like that... that was just very bad positioning by pepe, i guess he didnt really have a choice though.
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pepe's fourth goes down, jangbi is able to get up another army almost instantly off of 18 gates.
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only 18 gates from jangbi =/
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Another Terran bites the dust
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and jangbi 1a2a3a straight into pepe's base. Slow pushing is really tough on this map because you can't build turrets. Good try pepe, but jangbi just managed to run over him.
more storms, arbiters, etc.
pepe gg's
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On December 28 2008 18:50 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:48 joyeaux wrote: omfg can we keep daniel? this guy is good. yeah he is amazing and has really insightful comments on the game.
It took some getting used to, but yeah, he is good.
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WTF awesome play from Jangbi right there. New Jangbi fan right here
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awesome play again from jangbi
those storms were just insane
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what Super Daniel said was so true about what separates the better terrans (Flash, Mind) from the lessers.
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pepe was outclassed here. Great play from Jangbi.
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Jangbi 4-0 3 players in 1 day? That is pretty damn good.
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pepe not on the same scale...
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Pepe basically lost when he decided to play a macro game against Jangbi...
WTF!?
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jesus daniel is AWESOME as a caster i love his analysis and perspective they need to keep him around
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man... listen to daniel is a pleasure
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Is there literally like 3 people in the audience?
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On December 28 2008 18:55 spydernoob wrote: wow crowd is empty
these games don't even have potential for upsets- although stork v backho might be good if backho has something really really cool prepared.
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On December 28 2008 18:57 LonelyMargarita wrote: Is there literally like 3 people in the audience?
i wouldnt blame them, to be honest. not that great of games tonight.
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On December 28 2008 18:57 LonelyMargarita wrote: Is there literally like 3 people in the audience? yes i noticed too, why isnt people interested?
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Is anyone on the Korean stream? There was just a commercial that led me to believe that BoxeR might be co-casting it.
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On December 28 2008 18:57 LonelyMargarita wrote: Is there literally like 3 people in the audience?
I was just going to comment on that actually. I know someone said that the location where GomTV games are being played is obscure so not as many people can get there, but it looked barren in there.
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Are they gonna ever make a TG sambo CD? "compuuttaa no TG sambo" could make many good songs.
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lol @ commercials in foreign language! i love this!
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On December 28 2008 18:58 malongo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 18:57 LonelyMargarita wrote: Is there literally like 3 people in the audience? yes i noticed too, why isnt people interested? Players aren't that exciting aside Stork and afaik. the place is in a really wierd/far away location so not many feel like going.
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wheres the apm show!!!!!!!
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On December 28 2008 18:59 rushz0rz wrote: wheres the apm show!!!!!!!
they're usually after the commericals....
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I find myself rooting for FailHo these days just for the 1/100 chance that he offensive GGs again and they HAVE to disqualify him this time
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So there is going to be 3 Terrans and 5 Protoss players in Ro8
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On December 28 2008 18:56 samachking wrote: Jangbi 4-0 3 players in 1 day? That is pretty damn good.
4-0 so good
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man the pro gamers live in pretty nice apartments. they may have to sleep with like 10 others in a 3 bedroom apartment, but they are definitely high class looking.
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Wow! incredible play by Jangbi.. I have always loved his style of pvt.. so aggressive with his reaver micro...
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On December 28 2008 18:57 LonelyMargarita wrote: Is there literally like 3 people in the audience?
Well there is a break, maybe a lot of the audience went to buy something. =)
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On December 28 2008 18:57 LonelyMargarita wrote: Is there literally like 3 people in the audience? There were like 3 on pepe's side of the audience. Wasn't as empty at the other side though.
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Most of the time there sadly aren't a lot of people in the studio. I asked this last time and appereantly the studio is located at a location that is hard to reach for most people.
I expect more people to show up once we get into the semi-finals and the finals though, the finals last time (season 1) were packed IIRC.
<edit> Spelling.
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I hate it when nick says "ultimate nerd"...
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On December 28 2008 19:08 Cambium wrote: I hate it when nick says "ultimate nerd"...
i hate it when he says nerd. same with nony.
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doesn't hurt to be a little more profession...
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anyone else with lag problems?
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are those shiny puffy jackets popular in korea or something? they are soooo ugly
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On December 28 2008 19:08 Cambium wrote: I hate it when nick says "ultimate nerd"...
i think he uses that word way too often. needs new vocabulary.
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Beware of a possible and sudden "zizi yO," stork.
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On December 28 2008 19:10 rushz0rz wrote: are those shiny puffy jackets popular in korea or something? they are soooo ugly
Probably because they're crazy warm.
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In a world of computer gaming a pro caster and an aspiring pro gaming using phrases like 'nerds' is so ironic, how can you not love it?
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On December 28 2008 19:11 Cuddly wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 19:10 rushz0rz wrote: are those shiny puffy jackets popular in korea or something? they are soooo ugly Probably because they're crazy warm.
yeah i guess they are. i remember they were popular here too, and it gets mighty cold in the winter.
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Rofl. That was an awkward exchange.
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this cast is epic
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Is Daniel drunk?  He's being really awkward atm. "Nick, why are you such a baller?" "I study you" christ :S
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On December 28 2008 19:12 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 19:11 Cuddly wrote:On December 28 2008 19:10 rushz0rz wrote: are those shiny puffy jackets popular in korea or something? they are soooo ugly Probably because they're crazy warm. yeah i guess they are. i remember they were popular here too, and it gets mighty cold in the winter. I never see those in Finland, I don't think they look that bad though. must be sooo warm too
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Tasteless and Daniel make a good duo as well, good to see. Hope we can get three person commentary's soon with Susie mixed in there as well.
And Stork will destroy Backho.
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alright and here we go again with stork vs backho, stork at 12, backho at 3
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On December 28 2008 19:14 GinNtoniC wrote:Is Daniel drunk?  He's being really awkward atm. "Nick, why are you such a baller?" "I study you" christ :S
It's just the awkward accent and the way they say things when they learn English.
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and Nick is in fact such a baller lol
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daniel neeeds to come back
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stork =  other guy = 
AHAHAH
from somethingawful? never knew they watched.
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On December 28 2008 19:15 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 19:14 GinNtoniC wrote:Is Daniel drunk?  He's being really awkward atm. "Nick, why are you such a baller?" "I study you" christ :S It's just the awkward accent and the way they say things when they learn English. it just creeps me out when people get all submissive i.e. "I'm your biggest fan" Nothing bad said about the cast itself though!
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who is that guy, seriously?
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lol
"Stork = " "other guy = "
Koreans are so brutal
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okay wtf?
"They speak English in Canada"...?
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Stork =  Other guy =  Oh man, that's awesome.
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new drinking game when tasteless casts games:
take a shot every time he says "nerd"
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Not to rag on Lilsusie, but Daniel really is a valuable addition. It would be a lot of fun to see a three person team with Daniel, Nick, and Susie.
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On December 28 2008 19:17 Cambium wrote: okay wtf?
"They speak English in Canada"...?
hahaha hes just being Nick. maybe it's to help out his fellow Americans on this board.
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On December 28 2008 19:18 29 fps wrote: new drinking game when tasteless casts games:
take a shot every time he says "nerd" im in
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Is it just me or is stork cutting probes?
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On December 28 2008 19:18 Cuddly wrote: Not to rag on Lilsusie, but Daniel really is a valuable addition. It would be a lot of fun to see a three person team with Daniel, Nick, and Susie.
There would be no point in having Susie if Super Daniel gained a permanent spot as a caster for GOMTV english cast. No offense or anything.
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identical builds, both players are exactly even
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3 gate goon from stork, backho i guess is going to get reaver from his robo. tough, becuase obs don't attack
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On December 28 2008 19:19 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 19:18 Cuddly wrote: Not to rag on Lilsusie, but Daniel really is a valuable addition. It would be a lot of fun to see a three person team with Daniel, Nick, and Susie. There would be no point in having Susie if Super Daniel gained a permanent spot as a caster for GOMTV english cast. No offense or anything. Newbie friendly questions, go off for interviews, etc. For people who haven't been following SC for forever like myself, the "dumb" questions she asks can be very informative.
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On December 28 2008 19:19 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 19:18 29 fps wrote: new drinking game when tasteless casts games:
take a shot every time he says "nerd" im in
i'm in too. he only says it like 4 times in a nerd heavy cast thoguh
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this build Stork is doing, in order to contain Backho, can actually backfire. Especially since Backho is going robo, he can just expand on the island and go reavers and slowly break the contain. Seen it happen a few times.
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wtf why didn't stork run away
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how is the third gate not helping stork enough. Stork just lost his window, and it's gonna be tough for him to recover.
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On December 28 2008 19:21 Cuddly wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 19:19 rushz0rz wrote:On December 28 2008 19:18 Cuddly wrote: Not to rag on Lilsusie, but Daniel really is a valuable addition. It would be a lot of fun to see a three person team with Daniel, Nick, and Susie. There would be no point in having Susie if Super Daniel gained a permanent spot as a caster for GOMTV english cast. No offense or anything. Newbie friendly questions, go off for interviews, etc. For people who haven't been following SC for forever like myself, the "dumb" questions she asks can be very informative.
i dont really see "asking dumb questions" as a negative part of her casting, but Daniel can do all the same roles as her, even a bit better since hes been in the scene since 1998. It just wouldn't be necessary to have both.
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shuttle+reaver is now out for backho, stork's gonna need toshow some really good macro and micro if he wants to get back in this game.
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On December 28 2008 19:17 Cambium wrote: okay wtf?
"They speak English in Canada"...?
Remember, this is a worldwide cast. Some countries around the world might not know that.
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On December 28 2008 19:22 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: wtf why didn't stork run away
There's almost no point. Backho would get an extra 2 or 3 shots on the goons as they run, may as well stay and do as much damage as possible.
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that was clever. faked the drop
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stork needs some good micro and flanking to pick off the shuttles/reavers
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falho went out to fail again
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Backho loses both reavers and shuttle, wtf
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5 goons vs 4 goons, and now stork is actually at an advantage
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wtf fail micro from backho loses both reavers shuttles and almost all his goons
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United States5784 Posts
wtf??? that was such fail shuttle thing with reaver weklhjasdfasd
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I think this is the worst option that Backho is taking... he should've just expanded and defended. He was already ahead since Stork tried a 3 gate timing attack with laaaate robo (if he even has a robo?). Backho could even secure the bottom right expos.
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LOL GOON MICRO FAIL FAILHO has 2 reavers omfg loses all
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obs just got out, so now backho knows what is up. 4 gates up for stork still
3 gates and robo for backho, stork is trying to get the top of the ramp of backho
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On December 28 2008 19:23 usopsama wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 19:17 Cambium wrote: okay wtf?
"They speak English in Canada"...? Remember, this is a worldwide cast. Some countries around the world might not know that.
Given that the viewer
a) speaks english b) has a computer c) has broadband internet d) plays SC
I'd say he knows some ppl in canada speak english.
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wow that goon snipe was cool.
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why doesnt backho get a DT?
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stork pushes, gets his reaver, but then fucks up staying too long in the fire of backho's goons and loses nearly all his troops
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stork manages to nail thee reaver, but now he dosen't have enough to win the game.
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seems like both players are sloppy as hell in micro just letting their goons die
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both played very horrible aggressively.
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I love how daniel talks to stork. "time to back up, stork, you are losing dragoons now!"
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On December 28 2008 19:26 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 19:23 usopsama wrote:On December 28 2008 19:17 Cambium wrote: okay wtf?
"They speak English in Canada"...? Remember, this is a worldwide cast. Some countries around the world might not know that. Given that the viewer a) speaks english b) has a computer c) has broadband internet d) plays SC I'd say he knows some ppl in canada speak english. it was a jokeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Lol "this is more gg, this is sooooo gg"
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lol, tasteless describing levels of gg xD contain+dt+expo=gg lol
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I don't like Stork but I can respect his skill - what the hell was he doing that game??
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Stork gg's after backho's dt swipes some probes
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wtf stork
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
wowww backho beat storkkkk
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that's right
backho wins
eat it.
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LOOOOOL GOGOGO BACKHOOOOO!!!
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backho looks confused: "I just won that?"
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fuck i love failho uninspiring play but he is just awesome stork with the stork face gg's out
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aw man stork got zizi yo'ed
hope he plays more safely next game, stork's micro is so much better
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Stork just played like a dumbshit...
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well well, we might see an upset
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backho and stork are consistently practice partners, I think it's interesting how they know each other's play so well
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actually i dont know if i would call it an upset because stork is playing like ASS
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wow, BackHo actually waited this time to see Stork gg first
-.-
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On December 28 2008 19:30 Cambium wrote: backho looks confused: "I just won that?"
I would be confused if i was backho too lol
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daniel lee can hear the korean, I wonder why he wouldn't get the start right...
I like backho, but he's not as good as most of the other protosses. >.>
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shit daniel lee doesn't like firebathero's ceremonies.
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LMAO
"If I were a progamer right now, I'd do ceremonies even crazier than that I think we're going to start."
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Game's started on medusa, stork in red, backho in purple
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alright, and here we go on medusa. we see stork on the right, and backho on the left
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On December 28 2008 19:33 Kentor wrote: shit daniel lee doesn't like firebathero's ceremonies. I don't like them either >.> but I figure that i'm in the minority.
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Nony needs to be the 7th dragon lol
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lol tasteless 7th dragon after he wins courage yeah right
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All guys who flaming lilsusie ******. Get well soon susie and you are not a bad commentator you constantly improve.
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stork is about half a second ahead
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United States17042 Posts
pylon gate gas zeal pylon >.> standard mirrored.
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I can't stop laughing about Nick and Daniel. They are so awesome.
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TWO manner pylons for backho in stork's mineral line, crapload of probes trapped
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3 manner pylons from stork. Backho is so far behind
edit, sorry, i got the players switched
stork is behind. hard
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On December 28 2008 19:36 GHOSTCLAW wrote: 3 manner pylons from stork. Backho is so far behind I think it's stork who's behind
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On December 28 2008 19:36 GHOSTCLAW wrote: 3 manner pylons from stork. Backho is so far behind
but stork is red.... backho is manner pyloning.
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lol ninja edit. I got it wrong ><;;
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Backho pissing all over stork
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backho is going for 3 gate goon range, and stork isn't going to be able to scout it.
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Backho getting three gates, taking advantage of stork's bad economy
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Stork gets probe past temples, gets a scout in to see the three gates
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stork has a robo, and is buildling two more gates to try to make sure tha tthe 3 gates don't pay off. stork is trying to play safe and make sure he can still win
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<3 Daniel... keep him plz
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Great game sense from Stork in this game.
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stork has enough units looks like, and bakho needs to hit the window before the reaver finishes
I think that backho should expand now and play to win. Backho needs to keep the expansion lol
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Stork has reaver, battery, goons, zealots against backho's few dragoons, while backho sets up an expo
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daniel's great ^^ he's definitely got the insight that even nick doesn't have that prolly only comes from being an actual coach.
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On December 28 2008 19:41 lilsusie wrote: daniel's great ^^ he's definitely got the insight that even nick doesn't have that prolly only comes from being an actual coach.
yeah and hes been doing it since the begining.
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Stork pushes from a bad angle, however, reaver lets him keep pushing, HE COMES OUT ON TOP OF THE BATTLE WITH THREE GOONS AND SHUTTLE/REAVER ALIVE
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wow stork is amazing at aiming the reaver, always made it so the scarab splash effected 2-3 others.
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stork's got this, even though backho managed to have better positioning.
Backho's probably needed to pull probes >.>
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That was the craziest battle ever. I thought for sure Backho had it.
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how the heck did he keep that reaver and shuttle alive
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wow, stork uses just enough micro and just enough macro to be able to win this game >.>
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Expo nexus goes down, four goons of stork going into backho's main
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wow backho with shitastic micro
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FUCK THAT WAS SO CRAZY ASDFDSF I squealed like a little girl GO STORK
BACKNO FTL
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failho lives up to his name
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aw man Stork was so fucking amazing there.
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Is that 70 to 40 supply I see? Stork way ahead, he's got an expo running, as well as a shuttle/reaver and more goons
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hahaha, they laugh at artosis ' you dont know how much excited im about this game' haha
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i can't stress enough how excited i am about backho losing
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Rofl, Daniel Lee making fun of Artosis.
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Stork got VERY LUCKY by glitching that probe up there.
Without that scouting, Stork would not have defended that first push by Backho.
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On December 28 2008 19:45 koziol wrote: hahaha, they laugh at artosis ' you dont know how much excited im about this game' haha
huh?
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as artosis says, nail in the coffin xD
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On December 28 2008 19:46 baubo wrote: Stork got VERY LUCKY by glitching that probe up there.
Without that scouting, Stork would not have defended that first push by Backho.
or very skilled. Backho knew that you can glitch the probe up there, but he just didn't manage to defend against it easily
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On December 28 2008 19:47 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 19:46 baubo wrote: Stork got VERY LUCKY by glitching that probe up there.
Without that scouting, Stork would not have defended that first push by Backho. or very skilled. Backho knew that you can glitch the probe up there, but he just didn't manage to defend against it easily
well, ya tend to forget about it really, that a scout might glitch its way up there.
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tasteless just dosen't get owned by intros lol
okay, and here we go again, stork in green at top, and backho in purple at bottom
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tasteless is so used to having susie as a co-commentator that he keeps interrupting and cutting off daniel lee, and it gets pretty annoying after a while. if they work together for a while - maybe along with susie - this would be such a good commentating crew.
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On December 28 2008 19:48 rushz0rz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 19:47 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On December 28 2008 19:46 baubo wrote: Stork got VERY LUCKY by glitching that probe up there.
Without that scouting, Stork would not have defended that first push by Backho. or very skilled. Backho knew that you can glitch the probe up there, but he just didn't manage to defend against it easily well, ya tend to forget about it really, that a scout might glitch its way up there.
I suppose, but i would still put it down to skill/forsight/preparation, and not luck >.>
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pylon gate gas pylon cyber standard mirrored builds
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On December 28 2008 19:50 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 19:48 rushz0rz wrote:On December 28 2008 19:47 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On December 28 2008 19:46 baubo wrote: Stork got VERY LUCKY by glitching that probe up there.
Without that scouting, Stork would not have defended that first push by Backho. or very skilled. Backho knew that you can glitch the probe up there, but he just didn't manage to defend against it easily well, ya tend to forget about it really, that a scout might glitch its way up there. I suppose, but i would still put it down to skill/forsight/preparation, and not luck >.>
stork really takes advantage of the glitching, i remember he did it in a recent PL game on that other map with temples.
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robo from stork, for some reason backho's is slightly slower
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Stork ahead by a few seconds in putting down his robofac, as well as his second gate
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triple gate...? whoever triple gates loses. way to go backho.
edit: nevermind, for some reason i thought that robo was a gate...
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ist mirror builds but why is storks so much fatser
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tasteless said nerds again lol.
still basically mirrored builds, although it looks like stork is going to expand, and backho is going to reaver push
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Stork expands while backho gets his robotics support bay, both have observatories up
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stork expanded earlier. backho doesnt look like hes going to expand, rather a timing attack.
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Stork has four gateways, reaver out for backho, his push is starting
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and pvp. it all comes down to this push, reaver push vs goons
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stork had high ground advantage, but backho is coming in , stork bringing out probes
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WOW BACKHO IS ABOUT TO UPSET STORK
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that was really good micro from backho ><;; stork...
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
it's over mannnn backho killing stork again in gom
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Reaver nearly taken out, backho doing good reaver micro, and natural nexus is getting beaten on
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Stork's nexus goes down, he's behind horribly now
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that was killer reaver micro. backho upsets stork!
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at least he outfailed failho
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wow that was some amazing reaver/shuttle micro...did not expect this out of backho.
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why does everyone hate backho?
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that was some of the sickest micro over
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GG WOWOWOWO BACKHO UPSET STORK
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zizi yo backho is too good
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yup, gg.
the tournament of upsets.
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Stork moves down his ramp, snipes the reaver, but no difference as backho has too many goons
STORK GG'S UPSET WOOWOW
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FUCK WOW I LOVE KOREAN MICRO THAT SHUTTLE REAVER PLAY
wowow and stork pulls probes, when reaver lands it land closer to storks goons but backho does enough to keep the reaver alive
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On December 28 2008 17:33 Realpenguin wrote:LETS GO BACKHO I love Stork, but wouldn't it be awesome if BackHo won? YESSS I CALLED IT
(BUT I LIQUIBET'D STORK)
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hollY shit! didnt expect that :O
ziziyO!!!!
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im going to bed im sad now
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Maybe people will stop calling him "failho" now.
I don't particularly like him either, but the excessive hate is really annoying.
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On December 28 2008 19:57 joyeaux wrote: why does everyone hate backho?
Because he's really good and eliminating their favorite players.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA I LOVE BACKHO
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On December 28 2008 19:57 joyeaux wrote: why does everyone hate backho?
he keeps taking out good (favorite) players to get out of groups, and then he loses horribly to other players who got out of groups.
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That was some awesome micro with the shuttle. I didn't saw this coming.
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there are so many ridiculous upsets in this league wow...
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zizi yO backho takes out stork 2 seasons in a row
not too surprising seeing as these guys practice with each other all the time, I'd guess that they're pretty even in practice matches
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STORK WITH STORK FACE GG BACKHO WINS
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On December 28 2008 19:57 joyeaux wrote: why does everyone hate backho?
theres many reasons.
maybe becase he beat a high level player a while ago (i think it was JD; took him out of the MSL or OSL) maybe because of his name maybe because he fails maybe because of his haircut
who knows.
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Well played by backho, tough luck for stork.
TY STREAM FOR BEING NICE TO ME TODAY ~
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zizi yO'er versus choker.
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Backho you mega suck. Stop crashing parties you don't belong
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Haha "there are no medics here"
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Stork played way too greedily in the games he lost. >.>
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zizi yO. I love backho, haha. BackHo played great throughout the whole series. I hope he keeps this up. Sadly enough, my main hope is that he'll make the TL power rank, haha.
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Oh god BackHo.
The Stork face summarizes that series.
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The reason of the hate put on BackHo is that "everyone hates him" propaganda! Let's break it! BackHo hwaiting! BackHo is my favourite protoss!
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it would have been nice if stork had chosen a safer build, and tried to run over backho with better micro and macro. In both games 1 and 3, I'm pretty sure that he could have won with different (more standard?) builds.
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This is why it sucks being a Stork fan.
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On December 28 2008 20:00 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: Backho you mega suck. Stop crashing parties you don't belong
did you see game 3? backho destroyed stork
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that was pimp play with the shuttle reaver srsly
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looking forward to flash v bisu
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ugh 10 bucks says backho will get molested by his next oppponent
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god I can't believe stork messed up so bad.
he should've had that reaver at the half-way point, or at least the shuttle so he can stall the push long enough
such a bummer after that amazing last game
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Leave it to BackHo to fuck up all of our liquibets, yaknow?
It's cool though.
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lol did anyone else notice it said "the and" instead of "the end" ?
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On December 28 2008 20:06 KizZBG wrote: ugh 10 bucks says backho will get molested by his next oppponent Who? JangBi?
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On December 28 2008 20:09 joyeaux wrote: lol did anyone else notice it said "the and" instead of "the end" ?
they knew boxer was coming back? :p
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On December 28 2008 20:12 krazymunky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 20:09 joyeaux wrote: lol did anyone else notice it said "the and" instead of "the end" ? they knew boxer was coming back? :p
maybe!
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On December 28 2008 20:11 lolaloc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 20:06 KizZBG wrote: ugh 10 bucks says backho will get molested by his next oppponent Who? JangBi? Whoever.
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did anyone else just get a green screen of death?
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so uh, will there be any more starcraft?
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On December 28 2008 20:17 joyeaux wrote: so uh, will there be any more starcraft?
No. After Backho defeating Stork, Starcraft is gone forever.
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On December 28 2008 20:17 joyeaux wrote: so uh, will there be any more starcraft? starcraft is over
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On December 28 2008 20:19 Roxen000 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 20:17 joyeaux wrote: so uh, will there be any more starcraft? No. After Backho defeating Stork, Starcraft is gone forever.
rofl oh noes the world is imploding!
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On December 28 2008 20:19 Roxen000 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 20:17 joyeaux wrote: so uh, will there be any more starcraft? No. After Backho defeating Stork, Starcraft is gone forever.
I have witnessed a terrible thing!
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After that match BackHo has previously beaten 4/6 of the 6 dragons at least once
2-4 vs Stork 2-2 vs JangBi 1-1 vs Bisu 1-0 vs Kal
He has a chance of facing the remaining 2 hehe
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On December 28 2008 19:59 29 fps wrote:theres many reasons. maybe becase he beat a high level player a while ago (i think it was JD; took him out of the MSL or OSL) maybe because of his name maybe because he fails maybe because of his haircut who knows.
he was first noticed for cheesing jaedong, his teammate, out of the osl, defeating jangbi, before getting raped by julyzerg.
has great mechanics yet has horrifying game sense (except in my opinion, pvp).
never goes far in many tournaments but when people especially don't want him to win, like frozean, he delivers.
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I'm not that surprised BackHo won. He's not a bad P at all, and the luck factor is more dominant in mirrors than regular matchups.
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BOXER IN SKT1 Uniform! Stream still going!
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F' it...this was crap....
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people call the x factors "luck" cus it's harder to qualify/quantify, and the fact that the "defender's advantage" is lower so as a result small advantages are a lot more significant in mirrors. however it still doesn't accumulate like in madness/golem/dawn of war where production is continuous, you can still throw it away at a moment's notice
essentially mirrors come down to 1. the basics, 2. split decisions in battle, and finally 3. certain small elements of luck like how the units are positioned when armies engage, so as one side will waste less shots.
stork focus fired 1 red hp dragoon in game 1, that was a huge mistake as far as pvp goes, he took more damage himself doing that
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is there like a "backho rule" like rule that states there will always be a at least 1 guy who doesn't belong in the round of whatever?
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stork just being ... himself
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BACKHO! <3
Shame that you killed my #2 favourite protoss, but atleast the #1 advanced. 
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I knew it was the end of the road for pepe, but Stork??
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On December 28 2008 20:01 Sunyveil wrote:yessssss
ahaha...this is just like stork...
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a bit late, but OMG daniel lee + tasteless casting is awesome
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Danlee was soo good with tasteless tonight, haha what is it with gom and backho beating stork
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I don't like BackHo and because of that I were hoping for him to lose. Still though it is good. Bigger chance for the Terrans because Stork is a lot better than BackHo.
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dammit stork... did u lose 2 backho in season 1 of gom? y?
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wait so the round of 8 is flash, skyhigh, mind, jangbi, bisu, backho, best, free? some1 correct me if im wrong
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BackHo should be a dragon.
Not to mention, BackHo was a step from winning game two. He somehow raped Stork.
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On December 29 2008 01:03 ZerGuy wrote:BackHo should be a dragon. Not to mention, BackHo was a step from winning game two. He somehow raped Stork.  unfortunately a prerequisite for being a dragon is: not being horrible
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Fuck you stork, I'm done with samsung khan.
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Backho the next dragon? lololol
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nice that was some good shuttle/reaver micro
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Backho isnt that bad..well vp and vt, he tends to do dumb things at times but hes not horrible. When I say that, it doesnt apply to his vZ which is god awful and reminds me of Protoss version of Shine when fighting good zergs.
edit: That micro was pimpest plays '08 for sure.
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Uh, STork? gotta see the vods..
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wtf backho LOL. ZIZIGOYO.
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Now BackHO is going to be prison raped by an opponent Stork could have easily beaten.
ZIZIYO
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On December 29 2008 04:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Now BackHO is going to be prison raped by an opponent Stork could have easily beaten.
ZIZIYO Wasn't Stork going to play Jangbi? The same match up that Stork just lost. Clearly it does not go Backho> Stork> Jangbi> Backho, this aint rock paper scissors. Stork has also said thousands of times that Jangbi rapes him easily in practice, and hes 0-2 to him career rise. Stork just hasn't been doing well lately, and would have lost either way.
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2/2. Too ez.
But that was some amazing play from BackHo in game three.
Stork is really intent on dropping from the top ranks now eh?
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what does 2/2 mean?
ziziyO~
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he got 2 out of 2 right on liquibet
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On December 28 2008 20:40 .risingdragoon wrote: people call the x factors "luck" cus it's harder to qualify/quantify, and the fact that the "defender's advantage" is lower so as a result small advantages are a lot more significant in mirrors. however it still doesn't accumulate like in madness/golem/dawn of war where production is continuous, you can still throw it away at a moment's notice
essentially mirrors come down to 1. the basics, 2. split decisions in battle, and finally 3. certain small elements of luck like how the units are positioned when armies engage, so as one side will waste less shots.
stork focus fired 1 red hp dragoon in game 1, that was a huge mistake as far as pvp goes, he took more damage himself doing that
He didnt take that much i dont think and backho was down 1 dragoon
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I remember somebody told 1-2 month ago like this : " Stork for OSL/MSL/GOMTV/WCG gold medals" Haha catch this fanboys. BackHo raped Stork like last time in GOM. GGNORE.
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On December 29 2008 05:18 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2008 20:40 .risingdragoon wrote: people call the x factors "luck" cus it's harder to qualify/quantify, and the fact that the "defender's advantage" is lower so as a result small advantages are a lot more significant in mirrors. however it still doesn't accumulate like in madness/golem/dawn of war where production is continuous, you can still throw it away at a moment's notice
essentially mirrors come down to 1. the basics, 2. split decisions in battle, and finally 3. certain small elements of luck like how the units are positioned when armies engage, so as one side will waste less shots.
stork focus fired 1 red hp dragoon in game 1, that was a huge mistake as far as pvp goes, he took more damage himself doing that He didnt take that much i dont think and backho was down 1 dragoon lol no dude, stork was down a dragoon from the very beginning of that 3gate attack.
he had less units from a 3gate than backho with 2gate, running that distance basically took out his advantage
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On December 29 2008 06:33 monstar123 wrote:I remember somebody told 1-2 month ago like this : " Stork for OSL/MSL/GOMTV/WCG gold medals" Haha catch this fanboys. BackHo raped Stork like last time in GOM. GGNORE.
Since when did discourse about progaming become so bm?
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I hope Backho beats Jangbi. Please. Do it Backho! DO IT FOR ANYTIME!!!!
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On December 29 2008 03:17 ilistis wrote: Fuck you stork, I'm done with samsung khan.
ROFL
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didnt expect this gawwd i hate backho's haircut
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On December 29 2008 07:33 ambit!ous1 wrote: didnt expect this gawwd i hate backho's haircut
compared to other gamers, I don't think it's that bad. Worst progamer haircut, imo, is Mind. To be fair to his stylist, Mind's haircut is probably as good as you can get on such a malformed head :D
(seriously, he may as well be wearing a helmet made of guano and crystallized urine)
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On December 29 2008 07:19 SuperJongMan wrote: I hope Backho beats Jangbi. Please. Do it Backho! DO IT FOR ANYTIME!!!!
Backho beating Jangbi would be so funny omg... lol.
Imagine the finals... Backho > BeSt or something.
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On December 29 2008 07:41 Tadzio00 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2008 07:33 ambit!ous1 wrote: didnt expect this gawwd i hate backho's haircut
compared to other gamers, I don't think it's that bad. Worst progamer haircut, imo, is Mind. To be fair to his stylist, Mind's haircut is probably as good as you can get on such a malformed head :D (seriously, he may as well be wearing a helmet made of guano and crystallized urine) If only Silent_Control was still around. This guy has to be the most fashionable guy to ever hit the progaming scene.
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Finals will be Best vs Mind
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Backho is going to win GOM easily. He will only have to play PvP the rest of the way: Backho > Stork, > Jangbi, > Free, and > Best to take it down. His reavers are just too damn good.
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On December 29 2008 08:49 huameng wrote: Backho is going to win GOM easily. He will only have to play PvP the rest of the way: Backho > Stork, > Jangbi, > Free, and > Best to take it down. His reavers are just too damn good.
Someone check this man into rehab ASAP
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rofl no way Backho is taking down BeSt
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On December 29 2008 09:35 writer22816 wrote: rofl no way Backho is taking down BeSt
best has lost 0-2 to an unknown protoss, its not unlikely
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Yes, it is unlikely. WTF are you saying? Backho over Best???
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On December 29 2008 11:58 SuperJongMan wrote:Yes, it is unlikely. WTF are you saying? BackHo over BeSt[HyO]??? WTF?? Yes it's unlikely inyeon over BeSt[HyO]??? WTF are you saying. Wait...
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On December 29 2008 12:00 Avidkeystamper wrote:WTF?? Yes it's unlikely inyeon over BeSt[HyO]??? WTF are you saying. Wait...
So...because upsets do happen we should just throw everything out the window?
Or are you trying to say something less ridiculous?
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On December 29 2008 11:58 SuperJongMan wrote: Yes, it is unlikely. WTF are you saying? Backho over Best???
It's not unlikely at all, how is best better than stork at pvp? I think there's a good chance it's gonna happen. I'd say backho 30% - 70% best. Hmm I guess 30% technically means unlikely so it probably depends on your definition of unlikely. Let's put it like this: I would not be the least bit surprised if Backho won.
Just wondering by the way, does anyone know if the RO8 will consist of bo5's or bo3's? Bo3's would be so gay.
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You dumb. Best win Gom. Duh.
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I think it's better to say: 10% of the liquibets will be for Backho, mine will, depending on how busy Best is.
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On December 29 2008 12:06 Frits wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2008 11:58 SuperJongMan wrote: Yes, it is unlikely. WTF are you saying? Backho over Best??? It's not unlikely at all, how is best better than stork at pvp? I think there's a good chance it's gonna happen. I'd say backho 30% - 70% best. Hmm I guess 30% technically means unlikely so it probably depends on your definition of unlikely. Let's put it like this: I would not be the least bit surprised if Backho won. Just wondering by the way, does anyone know if the RO8 will consist of bo5's or bo3's? Bo3's would be so gay.
osl style ro8 2/3 round4 and final 3/5
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On December 29 2008 12:08 Avidkeystamper wrote: I think it's better to say: 10% of the liquibets will be for Backho, mine will, depending on how busy Best is.
BeSt won't be busy at all...just PL. He's seeded into the OSL, so he doesn't have to play many games there. As a BeSt fan I am far more worried about him having to play Bisu or Flash after he owns sKyHigh - either of those two would be a huge challenge, and the winner of that match is a shoo-in to take the whole tourney.
How awesome would BeSt - Flash be? It's the macro matchup we've been dying to see every OSL, but Flash keeps losing to Zergs . BeSt's insane PvT record lately adds to the drama, as does the fact that if BeSt did meet Flash, it would be an opportunity for him to avenge Bisu.
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On December 29 2008 08:18 RamenStyle wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2008 07:41 Tadzio00 wrote:On December 29 2008 07:33 ambit!ous1 wrote: didnt expect this gawwd i hate backho's haircut
compared to other gamers, I don't think it's that bad. Worst progamer haircut, imo, is Mind. To be fair to his stylist, Mind's haircut is probably as good as you can get on such a malformed head :D (seriously, he may as well be wearing a helmet made of guano and crystallized urine) If only Silent_Control was still around. This guy has to be the most fashionable guy to ever hit the progaming scene.
On August 07 2006 14:17 Rekrul wrote: I witnessed Silent_Control cry about a week ago while he was drunk because one of his dongsengs (younger male friends) told him to fuck off.
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Seriously what's with teamliquids hate for backho anyway.
EVERYWHERE on tl where backho is mentioned people dislike him, like people did with fbh when he just made it big. What's wrong with backho? How is he even any different from free or much? Sure he isn't as spectacular as bisu or jangbi, or as accomplished as stork, but seriously what's the deal with him? With his track record I would think that he would have quite a fanbase by now.
I agree with the haircut though, backho has one of the worst haircuts Ive ever seen lol that's the first thing I thought when I saw him, how hard is it to spend 20 dollars on a haircut and 2 dollars for some gel.
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On December 29 2008 12:28 Frits wrote: EVERYWHERE on tl where backho is mentioned people dislike him, like people did with fbh when he just made it big. What's wrong with backho? How is he even any different from free or much? Sure he isn't as spectacular as bisu or jangbi, or as accomplished as stork, but seriously what's the deal with him? With his track record I would think that he would have quite a fanbase by now.
BackHo has no particular style or personality but a history of eliminating fan favorites and then proceeding to embarrass himself in subsequent matches. See EVER08 OSL, where he beat Casy, Jaedong, Much, Bisu, and JangBi and then went on to play one of the worst semifinals in OSL history against July, losing 1-3 in a map pool that included Troy.
Keep in mind that there's a distinction between hate and friendly prodding, and I'd say that the difference between FBH and BackHo is that more people at TL actually hate FBH (most people who appear as BackHo "haters" are merely poking fun at him because it's so easy - he has to be one of the goofiest, dumbest progamers around). BackHo is just the type of player who will make you whack your forehead in disbelief on a regular basis.
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I just think it's hilarious how BackHo, despite his best efforts to fuck up his chances (hello I dont micro my reavers on Medusa at all) he proceeds to win about half of his games vs people that are generally considered better than him.
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On December 29 2008 12:35 jwd241224 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2008 12:28 Frits wrote: EVERYWHERE on tl where backho is mentioned people dislike him, like people did with fbh when he just made it big. What's wrong with backho? How is he even any different from free or much? Sure he isn't as spectacular as bisu or jangbi, or as accomplished as stork, but seriously what's the deal with him? With his track record I would think that he would have quite a fanbase by now. BackHo has no particular style or personality but a history of eliminating fan favorites and then proceeding to embarrass himself in subsequent matches. See EVER08 OSL, where he beat Casy, Jaedong, Much, Bisu, and JangBi and then went on to play one of the worst semifinals in OSL history against July, losing 1-3 in a map pool that included Troy. Keep in mind that there's a distinction between hate and friendly prodding, and I'd say that the difference between FBH and BackHo is that more people at TL actually hate FBH (most people who appear as BackHo "haters" are merely poking fun at him because it's so easy - he has to be one of the goofiest, dumbest progamers around). BackHo is just the type of player who will make you whack your forehead in disbelief on a regular basis.
lol I didn't think the Backho vs July games were that bad at all, July owned the shit out of Best just as badly, in games where I thought that July was playing even better than he did against backho. Maybe my protoss knowledge is just THAT bad but I never see backho making any terrible mistakes that make me shake my head. Only protoss player who really does that is the Rock and it only makes him more awesome.
And how are casy and much fan favorites lol, much is kinda cool because he's such an old dude but come on, fan favorite?
This brings up my next question actually, why do people like Casy? Have I been living under a rock the last 2 years? When has casy ever done something noticable, or played in a way that distinguishes himself as a terran from people like pepe/frozean/lomo/go.go.
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FailHo got this, but then offensive ziziYO in game 5 of the finals and DQ'd
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I cant see BeSt[HyO] losing GOM-Classic.His PvT is becoming like his PvP. BTW i like BackHo's Style, very aggressive and much micro.He deserved it >>> Stork. In OSL he lost game to Stork. But watch that game. He killed about 50-60 probes.His multitasking was in more than S-class level. GG
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On December 29 2008 12:46 darktreb wrote: FailHo got this, but then offensive ziziYO in game 5 of the finals and DQ'd
I would love to see this
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On December 29 2008 12:35 jwd241224 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2008 12:28 Frits wrote: EVERYWHERE on tl where backho is mentioned people dislike him, like people did with fbh when he just made it big. What's wrong with backho? How is he even any different from free or much? Sure he isn't as spectacular as bisu or jangbi, or as accomplished as stork, but seriously what's the deal with him? With his track record I would think that he would have quite a fanbase by now. BackHo has no particular style or personality but a history of eliminating fan favorites and then proceeding to embarrass himself in subsequent matches. See EVER08 OSL, where he beat Casy, Jaedong, Much, Bisu, and JangBi and then went on to play one of the worst semifinals in OSL history against July, losing 1-3 in a map pool that included Troy. Keep in mind that there's a distinction between hate and friendly prodding, and I'd say that the difference between FBH and BackHo is that more people at TL actually hate FBH (most people who appear as BackHo "haters" are merely poking fun at him because it's so easy - he has to be one of the goofiest, dumbest progamers around). BackHo is just the type of player who will make you whack your forehead in disbelief on a regular basis. He was the only person who took a game off July like OSL. Okay, Yarnc did too, but July already qualified for Ro8 and Yarnc was going to be disqualified anyways, so that game didn't matter. Scary thought.
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On December 29 2008 12:52 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2008 12:35 jwd241224 wrote:On December 29 2008 12:28 Frits wrote: EVERYWHERE on tl where backho is mentioned people dislike him, like people did with fbh when he just made it big. What's wrong with backho? How is he even any different from free or much? Sure he isn't as spectacular as bisu or jangbi, or as accomplished as stork, but seriously what's the deal with him? With his track record I would think that he would have quite a fanbase by now. BackHo has no particular style or personality but a history of eliminating fan favorites and then proceeding to embarrass himself in subsequent matches. See EVER08 OSL, where he beat Casy, Jaedong, Much, Bisu, and JangBi and then went on to play one of the worst semifinals in OSL history against July, losing 1-3 in a map pool that included Troy. Keep in mind that there's a distinction between hate and friendly prodding, and I'd say that the difference between FBH and BackHo is that more people at TL actually hate FBH (most people who appear as BackHo "haters" are merely poking fun at him because it's so easy - he has to be one of the goofiest, dumbest progamers around). BackHo is just the type of player who will make you whack your forehead in disbelief on a regular basis. He was the only person who took a game off July like OSL. Okay, Yarnc did too, but July already qualified for Ro8 and Yarnc was going to be disqualified anyways, so that game didn't matter. Scary thought. Come on, Backho did a 9/9 gateway into a 12pool->FE. Sure, he won, and it wasn't a complete BO win, but punishing July for an attempted pool threehatch with like 5+ zealots isn't really a display of skill. Watch any of the other games and the excellent TL writeups that correspond with them, and you'll see the true face of Backho (They're really really funny).
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Players BackHo has eliminated from starleagues recently:
Stork x 2 Midas Jangbi Bisu Jaedong Casy Nada (WCG, doesn't really count) Mind (MST) Kal
... that's a lot of fans to get angry
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backho has alot of talent and very good mechanics. stop hating on him just cuz he owns ur heros. backho the hero-killer.
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On December 29 2008 12:46 Frits wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2008 12:35 jwd241224 wrote:On December 29 2008 12:28 Frits wrote: EVERYWHERE on tl where backho is mentioned people dislike him, like people did with fbh when he just made it big. What's wrong with backho? How is he even any different from free or much? Sure he isn't as spectacular as bisu or jangbi, or as accomplished as stork, but seriously what's the deal with him? With his track record I would think that he would have quite a fanbase by now. BackHo has no particular style or personality but a history of eliminating fan favorites and then proceeding to embarrass himself in subsequent matches. See EVER08 OSL, where he beat Casy, Jaedong, Much, Bisu, and JangBi and then went on to play one of the worst semifinals in OSL history against July, losing 1-3 in a map pool that included Troy. Keep in mind that there's a distinction between hate and friendly prodding, and I'd say that the difference between FBH and BackHo is that more people at TL actually hate FBH (most people who appear as BackHo "haters" are merely poking fun at him because it's so easy - he has to be one of the goofiest, dumbest progamers around). BackHo is just the type of player who will make you whack your forehead in disbelief on a regular basis. This brings up my next question actually, why do people like Casy? Have I been living under a rock the last 2 years? When has casy ever done something noticable, or played in a way that distinguishes himself as a terran from people like pepe/frozean/lomo/go.go.
I enjoy Casy because his vT and vZ were so 'boxer-esque' (which is why he was dubbed Neo Emperor) Unfortunately for him, he also inherited Boxer's awful vP skills (which pretty much worse more and more he played).
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On December 29 2008 13:15 Sunyveil wrote: Players BackHo has eliminated from starleagues recently:
Stork x 2 Midas Jangbi Bisu Jaedong Casy Nada (WCG, doesn't really count) Mind (MST) Kal
... that's a lot of fans to get angry
The problem is that then he'd do things like losing to TT(the Khan old 2v2 player) TWICE in the proleagues, and other things like doing a zealot rush where he'd leave the zealot hanging around doing nothing.
Backho can play very well, and he did show some great play against Stork last night. But he also produces some of the most god awful games that make you question why he's a progamer.
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BackHo has a lot of potential for growth, but sometimes his play is awful then you start to wonder how he got there.
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