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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
December 24 2008 13:28 GMT
#521
I still wonder why they insist replying back when loser types "gg". They will leave instantly and you can always cover your not typing "gg" because he left already, no point typing it. This makes sure that these things don't happen.

I bet Kespa sends some information to teams to remind that next time who ever types "gg" before it will lose game.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-24 13:53:41
December 24 2008 13:31 GMT
#522
How do you define that... It's Kespa, it's OSL, not just some random game between your friends where you can say that the person who was winning won. You can't just decide in every game if they have a chance or not. What if the situation was a bit different, say firefist still had like 10 hydras in his main, although he still was way behind? And then backho GG's first, how do you define if he had a chance or not? Don't you get it -_- You need set rules for these things.

how do you define that? by knowing more about the game than you apparently because it was obvious the game was done. that aside, all I said was that the referees should not have let the decision up to firefist because they are basically hoping he will make the hard decision for them. if he chooses to advance he'll be hated, so he will choose for backho to advance and the referees stay without blame. it was weak. they should have made the decision themselves no matter what the end result was going to be.
You need set rules for these things.

actually these set rules exist for completely different reasons. you obviously haven't grasped the fact that this rule exist for: no bad manner talk (and generally unprofessional comments) between players. and: good manner gg. thats the only reason this exist, not for some guy saying gg before the game ends. it is an unfortunate side effect of this rule being in effect and shouldn't be taken too harshly. you should get worried when players start trashtalking in the chat. I really don't mind backho advancing from a game that he won anyways, but I also wouldn't have mind referees enforcing the rules. in the end it doesn't really matter.

p.s. things are not as black & white as youre trying to make it out to be. there are tons of rules in the real world that only exist so that they can be enforced in the targetted situation. all the other situations that also fall under this rule are ignored and tolerated.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51599 Posts
December 24 2008 13:36 GMT
#523
remove your z key plz backho
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.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-24 14:00:52
December 24 2008 13:42 GMT
#524
On December 24 2008 22:31 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
how do you define that? by knowing more about the game than you apparently because it was obvious the game was done. that aside, all I said was that the referees should not have let the decision up to firefist because they are basically hoping he will make the hard decision for them. if he chooses to advance he'll be hated, so he will choose for backho to advance and the referees stay without blame. it was weak. they should have made the decision themselves no matter what the end result was going to be.

Well, I think the consolation is that he won the public opinion battle.

He lost fair and square but still got a consolation prize, vs if he advanced unfairly which would've been worse than defeat. In the case where the choice is his, he gets to be the hero of the night for doing the right thing.
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firedodo
Profile Joined November 2008
China116 Posts
December 24 2008 13:43 GMT
#525
On December 24 2008 22:36 GTR-2-Go wrote:
remove your z key plz backho


"Oh WTF where are my zealots???!"
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51599 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-24 13:44:11
December 24 2008 13:43 GMT
#526
On December 24 2008 22:43 firedodo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2008 22:36 GTR-2-Go wrote:
remove your z key plz backho


"Oh WTF where are my zealots???!"


oh yeh
hehehe

remove enter key!
and just win every game =]
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BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
December 24 2008 13:49 GMT
#527
Remove the a-key.
amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
December 24 2008 13:53 GMT
#528
Well backho was trying to be polite and type gg right after firefist does that.
The blame is to firefist that didnt gg and quit in time
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
December 24 2008 13:59 GMT
#529
On December 24 2008 22:42 .risingdragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2008 22:31 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
how do you define that? by knowing more about the game than you apparently because it was obvious the game was done. that aside, all I said was that the referees should not have let the decision up to firefist because they are basically hoping he will make the hard decision for them. if he chooses to advance he'll be hated, so he will choose for backho to advance and the referees stay without blame. it was weak. they should have made the decision themselves no matter what the end result was going to be.

Well, I think the consolation is that he won the public opinion battle.

He lost fair and square but still got a consolation prize, vs if he advanced unfairly which would've been worse than defeat. In the case where the choice is his, he gets to be the hero of the night for doing the right thing in spite of elimination.


yeah but there shouldn't be anything like this going on. it should be: accident happens, common sense cleans up the situation, the end. oh what a rarity that is, though
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13079 Posts
December 24 2008 16:32 GMT
#530
lol so funny gonna watch vod when its out btw what zizi yo means in korean ?
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
December 24 2008 17:31 GMT
#531
FBH - ZerO really doesn't apply, as FBH would under no circumstances have given the victory away. No, not because he was in any better position, either. Just because he's extraordinarily cocky, and having to gg to a 'lesser' player than himself puts him on the verge of tears.

Just an observation.
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Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
December 24 2008 19:07 GMT
#532
i think backho sould get a penalty =P
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
December 24 2008 19:24 GMT
#533
On December 24 2008 21:32 Naib wrote:
Shit's better than Midas' accidental ctrl q + q

What game did that happen in? (and you meant alt q q I think?)
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
December 24 2008 21:23 GMT
#534
Seriously, I can't believe I went to bed early and missed these shenanigans.

BackHo is such a baller MORON.
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
December 24 2008 21:48 GMT
#535
oh LOL backho actually did type gg first? I thought I was tired and saw it wrong. omg hahah.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 24 2008 22:25 GMT
#536
On December 24 2008 22:31 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
How do you define that... It's Kespa, it's OSL, not just some random game between your friends where you can say that the person who was winning won. You can't just decide in every game if they have a chance or not. What if the situation was a bit different, say firefist still had like 10 hydras in his main, although he still was way behind? And then backho GG's first, how do you define if he had a chance or not? Don't you get it -_- You need set rules for these things.

how do you define that? by knowing more about the game than you apparently because it was obvious the game was done. that aside, all I said was that the referees should not have let the decision up to firefist because they are basically hoping he will make the hard decision for them. if he chooses to advance he'll be hated, so he will choose for backho to advance and the referees stay without blame. it was weak. they should have made the decision themselves no matter what the end result was going to be.
Show nested quote +
You need set rules for these things.

actually these set rules exist for completely different reasons. you obviously haven't grasped the fact that this rule exist for: no bad manner talk (and generally unprofessional comments) between players. and: good manner gg. thats the only reason this exist, not for some guy saying gg before the game ends. it is an unfortunate side effect of this rule being in effect and shouldn't be taken too harshly. you should get worried when players start trashtalking in the chat. I really don't mind backho advancing from a game that he won anyways, but I also wouldn't have mind referees enforcing the rules. in the end it doesn't really matter.

p.s. things are not as black & white as youre trying to make it out to be. there are tons of rules in the real world that only exist so that they can be enforced in the targetted situation. all the other situations that also fall under this rule are ignored and tolerated.

In this situation it's easy, but what if it's not so simple but they're still ahead -_-
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36399 Posts
December 24 2008 22:41 GMT
#537
On December 25 2008 07:25 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2008 22:31 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
How do you define that... It's Kespa, it's OSL, not just some random game between your friends where you can say that the person who was winning won. You can't just decide in every game if they have a chance or not. What if the situation was a bit different, say firefist still had like 10 hydras in his main, although he still was way behind? And then backho GG's first, how do you define if he had a chance or not? Don't you get it -_- You need set rules for these things.

how do you define that? by knowing more about the game than you apparently because it was obvious the game was done. that aside, all I said was that the referees should not have let the decision up to firefist because they are basically hoping he will make the hard decision for them. if he chooses to advance he'll be hated, so he will choose for backho to advance and the referees stay without blame. it was weak. they should have made the decision themselves no matter what the end result was going to be.
You need set rules for these things.

actually these set rules exist for completely different reasons. you obviously haven't grasped the fact that this rule exist for: no bad manner talk (and generally unprofessional comments) between players. and: good manner gg. thats the only reason this exist, not for some guy saying gg before the game ends. it is an unfortunate side effect of this rule being in effect and shouldn't be taken too harshly. you should get worried when players start trashtalking in the chat. I really don't mind backho advancing from a game that he won anyways, but I also wouldn't have mind referees enforcing the rules. in the end it doesn't really matter.

p.s. things are not as black & white as youre trying to make it out to be. there are tons of rules in the real world that only exist so that they can be enforced in the targetted situation. all the other situations that also fall under this rule are ignored and tolerated.

In this situation it's easy, but what if it's not so simple but they're still ahead -_-

his point is the rule should be applied on a case by case basis, not hardline black and white like you suggested earlier in the thread
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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
December 24 2008 23:09 GMT
#538
Kespa should not talk to players situation like this. Well any case really. Basically firefist had to choose what to do, its referees thing not players.

If referees would have chosen firefist to win and never talked to players there would never been talk about how badmannered Backho or firefist was. All the blame would be directed to referees and rules.

I blame Kespa making poor decisions (not saying their decision wasn't bad for fans).
monstar123
Profile Joined December 2008
United States516 Posts
December 24 2008 23:49 GMT
#539
Which (T)Midas's game? ctrl + q + q . URL pls
DeepGray
Profile Joined October 2008
United States214 Posts
December 25 2008 00:00 GMT
#540
On December 25 2008 08:49 monstar123 wrote:
Which (T)Midas's game? ctrl + q + q . URL pls

This is of interest to me as well.
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