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On December 24 2008 21:44 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2008 21:40 .risingdragoon wrote:On December 24 2008 21:35 Shikyo wrote:On December 24 2008 21:33 .risingdragoon wrote:On December 24 2008 21:31 Shikyo wrote:On December 24 2008 21:29 .risingdragoon wrote:
this is dumb
even if backho is an idiot he still won, so what if he gged first like a retard
he won IN THE game No he didn't. The person who kills all of the opponent's buildings wins. Alternatively, the player who GG's first and leaves the game loses. Also, after you gg you must leave. get outta here who eliminates all buildings to win in pro matchs lately? and GG is just formality you can't possibly turn a won game into a loss cus of a couple of letters, that'd be retarded beyond backho Savior, Nal_rA, etc. You can't force a player to quit and lose even if they're behind, what the fuck? How else would the epic comebacks ever happened? Savior vs TT? So the person who's ahead can force himself to win by saying "GG"? WTF, and you tell me to get outta here when you're so clueless? GTFO, this is totally different Savior-rA is an elimination GAME where both are still capable of winning. In a game where one guy has no CHANCE in hell of winning, and you rule for him and against the winner (despite being an idiot), that's a stupid technicality. There's no basis in the actual game for firefist winning, so therefore he lost. How do you define "chance"? Savior didn't have a "chance" to win that game. BackHo could sit in the middle of the map doing nothing, let firefist rebuild and kill him. Boxer had no "chance" against Jojo. Look at the rules, "the person who GGs first loses". Why do you argue against me, when it's impossible to define who won a game and who lost when there are still buildings standing? Backho just was greatly ahead, but didn't win. -_- You win by killing your opponent's buildings, alternatively you can GG, which means you give up. The first person to GG loses. Which part don't you get? Show me the Kespa rules that state that you can GG first if you're ahead, or GTFO yourself, you BM troll.
Lol you refer to Kespa when it was Kespa itself that ruled Backho's victory.
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On December 24 2008 21:44 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2008 21:40 .risingdragoon wrote:On December 24 2008 21:35 Shikyo wrote:On December 24 2008 21:33 .risingdragoon wrote:On December 24 2008 21:31 Shikyo wrote:On December 24 2008 21:29 .risingdragoon wrote:
this is dumb
even if backho is an idiot he still won, so what if he gged first like a retard
he won IN THE game No he didn't. The person who kills all of the opponent's buildings wins. Alternatively, the player who GG's first and leaves the game loses. Also, after you gg you must leave. get outta here who eliminates all buildings to win in pro matchs lately? and GG is just formality you can't possibly turn a won game into a loss cus of a couple of letters, that'd be retarded beyond backho Savior, Nal_rA, etc. You can't force a player to quit and lose even if they're behind, what the fuck? How else would the epic comebacks ever happened? Savior vs TT? So the person who's ahead can force himself to win by saying "GG"? WTF, and you tell me to get outta here when you're so clueless? GTFO, this is totally different Savior-rA is an elimination GAME where both are still capable of winning. In a game where one guy has no CHANCE in hell of winning, and you rule for him and against the winner (despite being an idiot), that's a stupid technicality. There's no basis in the actual game for firefist winning, so therefore he lost. How do you define "chance"? Savior didn't have a "chance" to win that game. BackHo could sit in the middle of the map doing nothing, let firefist rebuild and kill him. Boxer had no "chance" against Jojo. Look at the rules, "the person who GGs first loses". Why do you argue against me, when it's impossible to define who won a game and who lost when there are still buildings standing? Backho just was greatly ahead, but didn't win. -_- You win by killing your opponent's buildings, alternatively you can GG, which means you give up. The first person to GG loses. Which part don't you get? Show me the Kespa rules that state that you can GG first if you're ahead, or GTFO yourself, you BM troll.
You're more retarded than backho.
Rules don't overrule reality, you fo. If they called Bisu-July for Bisu instead of July, it'd be a bad call. Same here. If they called it for firefist and he takes it, it's a bad call and a bad player.
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I remember that time when Nal_rA got DQ'd.............
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On December 24 2008 21:50 tracer wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2008 21:44 Shikyo wrote:On December 24 2008 21:40 .risingdragoon wrote:On December 24 2008 21:35 Shikyo wrote:On December 24 2008 21:33 .risingdragoon wrote:On December 24 2008 21:31 Shikyo wrote:On December 24 2008 21:29 .risingdragoon wrote:
this is dumb
even if backho is an idiot he still won, so what if he gged first like a retard
he won IN THE game No he didn't. The person who kills all of the opponent's buildings wins. Alternatively, the player who GG's first and leaves the game loses. Also, after you gg you must leave. get outta here who eliminates all buildings to win in pro matchs lately? and GG is just formality you can't possibly turn a won game into a loss cus of a couple of letters, that'd be retarded beyond backho Savior, Nal_rA, etc. You can't force a player to quit and lose even if they're behind, what the fuck? How else would the epic comebacks ever happened? Savior vs TT? So the person who's ahead can force himself to win by saying "GG"? WTF, and you tell me to get outta here when you're so clueless? GTFO, this is totally different Savior-rA is an elimination GAME where both are still capable of winning. In a game where one guy has no CHANCE in hell of winning, and you rule for him and against the winner (despite being an idiot), that's a stupid technicality. There's no basis in the actual game for firefist winning, so therefore he lost. How do you define "chance"? Savior didn't have a "chance" to win that game. BackHo could sit in the middle of the map doing nothing, let firefist rebuild and kill him. Boxer had no "chance" against Jojo. Look at the rules, "the person who GGs first loses". Why do you argue against me, when it's impossible to define who won a game and who lost when there are still buildings standing? Backho just was greatly ahead, but didn't win. -_- You win by killing your opponent's buildings, alternatively you can GG, which means you give up. The first person to GG loses. Which part don't you get? Show me the Kespa rules that state that you can GG first if you're ahead, or GTFO yourself, you BM troll. Lol you refer to Kespa when it was Kespa itself that ruled Backho's victory.
Because Firefist admitted defeat. -_-
On December 24 2008 21:50 .risingdragoon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2008 21:44 Shikyo wrote:On December 24 2008 21:40 .risingdragoon wrote:On December 24 2008 21:35 Shikyo wrote:On December 24 2008 21:33 .risingdragoon wrote:On December 24 2008 21:31 Shikyo wrote:On December 24 2008 21:29 .risingdragoon wrote:
this is dumb
even if backho is an idiot he still won, so what if he gged first like a retard
he won IN THE game No he didn't. The person who kills all of the opponent's buildings wins. Alternatively, the player who GG's first and leaves the game loses. Also, after you gg you must leave. get outta here who eliminates all buildings to win in pro matchs lately? and GG is just formality you can't possibly turn a won game into a loss cus of a couple of letters, that'd be retarded beyond backho Savior, Nal_rA, etc. You can't force a player to quit and lose even if they're behind, what the fuck? How else would the epic comebacks ever happened? Savior vs TT? So the person who's ahead can force himself to win by saying "GG"? WTF, and you tell me to get outta here when you're so clueless? GTFO, this is totally different Savior-rA is an elimination GAME where both are still capable of winning. In a game where one guy has no CHANCE in hell of winning, and you rule for him and against the winner (despite being an idiot), that's a stupid technicality. There's no basis in the actual game for firefist winning, so therefore he lost. How do you define "chance"? Savior didn't have a "chance" to win that game. BackHo could sit in the middle of the map doing nothing, let firefist rebuild and kill him. Boxer had no "chance" against Jojo. Look at the rules, "the person who GGs first loses". Why do you argue against me, when it's impossible to define who won a game and who lost when there are still buildings standing? Backho just was greatly ahead, but didn't win. -_- You win by killing your opponent's buildings, alternatively you can GG, which means you give up. The first person to GG loses. Which part don't you get? Show me the Kespa rules that state that you can GG first if you're ahead, or GTFO yourself, you BM troll. You're more retarded than backho. Rules don't overrule reality, you fo. If they called Bisu-July for Bisu instead of July, it'd be a bad call. Same here. If they called it for firefist and he takes it, it's a bad call and a bad player.
Yeah, but why couldn't people who were ahead just GG so that the opponent had no chance for coming back? WHy do you keep insulting me for no reason, don't you see that it wouldn't work, in this case it might have been clear but what do you do in borderline situations where the other person is still way behind?
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On December 24 2008 21:49 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2008 21:45 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:They should never have given the option to admit defeat to FireFist. He can't claim a win here without being crucified. Referees should have stayed objective and either given FireFist the win or just say the game was over already so Backho wins. None of this asking the players crap. On December 24 2008 21:44 Shikyo wrote:On December 24 2008 21:40 .risingdragoon wrote:On December 24 2008 21:35 Shikyo wrote:On December 24 2008 21:33 .risingdragoon wrote:On December 24 2008 21:31 Shikyo wrote:On December 24 2008 21:29 .risingdragoon wrote:
this is dumb
even if backho is an idiot he still won, so what if he gged first like a retard
he won IN THE game No he didn't. The person who kills all of the opponent's buildings wins. Alternatively, the player who GG's first and leaves the game loses. Also, after you gg you must leave. get outta here who eliminates all buildings to win in pro matchs lately? and GG is just formality you can't possibly turn a won game into a loss cus of a couple of letters, that'd be retarded beyond backho Savior, Nal_rA, etc. You can't force a player to quit and lose even if they're behind, what the fuck? How else would the epic comebacks ever happened? Savior vs TT? So the person who's ahead can force himself to win by saying "GG"? WTF, and you tell me to get outta here when you're so clueless? GTFO, this is totally different Savior-rA is an elimination GAME where both are still capable of winning. In a game where one guy has no CHANCE in hell of winning, and you rule for him and against the winner (despite being an idiot), that's a stupid technicality. There's no basis in the actual game for firefist winning, so therefore he lost. How do you define "chance"? Savior didn't have a "chance" to win that game. BackHo could sit in the middle of the map doing nothing, let firefist rebuild and kill him. Boxer had no "chance" against Jojo. Look at the rules, "the person who GGs first loses". Why do you argue against me, when it's impossible to define who won a game and who lost when there are still buildings standing? Backho just was greatly ahead, but didn't win. -_- You win by killing your opponent's buildings, alternatively you can GG, which means you give up. The first person to GG loses. Which part don't you get? Show me the Kespa rules that state that you can GG first if you're ahead, or GTFO yourself, you BM troll. Lol dude what are you talking about. All those guys did have a chance to win, albeit a small one. Firefist had no chance. No chance whatsoever. How do you define that... It's Kespa, it's OSL, not just some random game between your friends where you can say that the person who was winning won. You can't just decide in every game if they have a chance or not. What if the situation was a bit different, say firefist still had like 10 hydras in his main, although he still was way behind? And then backho GG's first, how do you define if he had a chance or not? Don't you get it -_- You need set rules for these things.
If it had been more ambiguous, I'm sure more deliberation would have gone in. The commentators looked over the replay to check the game. They saw and confirmed that FF had near zero food count, as the last of his hydras had been pulverized by those storms. You can't argue with that in mind.
There was a lot more that went on than you apparently think. They're not idiots over there. Don't jump to conclusions...especially as it seems you don't know the language at all.
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On December 24 2008 21:35 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2008 21:30 tracer wrote:
Backho wins.
It was a complete accident and FireFist himself admitted that the match was lost so... haha. How the FUCK can it be an "accident"? Backho accidently hitting enter key and typed ziziyo and typed enter again all by accident!? I find the result fulfilling in terms of Backho deserving to move on, but firefist should deserve at least a rematch just so Failho can be punished by such an epic fail.
Jangbi vs Chalrenge PL finals last season
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On December 24 2008 21:50 lolaloc wrote:
I remember that time when Nal_rA got DQ'd.............
Yea, bad call. it shouldn't matter if it's a momentary slip up
I also remember when rA won and forgg lost cus of a good call
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So if I understood correctly, after the Z gets T down to 1 base and like no units, like in Zero vs FBH, if Zero had GG'd right there, he would have gotten the game? -_- Okay, I'm done arguing, but "depending on if he had a chance or not" is the most shallow rule ever.
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On December 24 2008 21:35 DoX.) wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2008 21:33 .risingdragoon wrote:On December 24 2008 21:31 Shikyo wrote:On December 24 2008 21:29 .risingdragoon wrote:
this is dumb
even if backho is an idiot he still won, so what if he gged first like a retard
he won IN THE game No he didn't. The person who kills all of the opponent's buildings wins. Alternatively, the player who GG's first and leaves the game loses. Also, after you gg you must leave. get outta here who eliminates all buildings to win in pro matchs lately? and GG is just formality you can't possibly turn a won game into a loss cus of a couple of letters, that'd be retarded beyond backho Savior vs Nalra on sin peaks? Savior vs TT on Neo Requiem?
This games were fucking elemination race, your examples fail more than backho.
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On December 24 2008 21:59 Hyperionnn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2008 21:35 DoX.) wrote:On December 24 2008 21:33 .risingdragoon wrote:On December 24 2008 21:31 Shikyo wrote:On December 24 2008 21:29 .risingdragoon wrote:
this is dumb
even if backho is an idiot he still won, so what if he gged first like a retard
he won IN THE game No he didn't. The person who kills all of the opponent's buildings wins. Alternatively, the player who GG's first and leaves the game loses. Also, after you gg you must leave. get outta here who eliminates all buildings to win in pro matchs lately? and GG is just formality you can't possibly turn a won game into a loss cus of a couple of letters, that'd be retarded beyond backho Savior vs Nalra on sin peaks? Savior vs TT on Neo Requiem? This games were fucking elemination race, your examples fail more than backho.
"who eliminates all buildings to win in pro matchs lately? " was the question.
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On December 24 2008 21:55 Shikyo wrote:
So if I understood correctly, after the Z gets T down to 1 base and like no units, like in Zero vs FBH, if Zero had GG'd right there, he would have gotten the game? -_- Okay, I'm done arguing, but "depending on if he had a chance or not" is the most shallow rule ever.
No. If FBH's has no units, his buildings are all on fire and lifted off, and Zero GGs by mistake, Zero should get the win.
Why is it so hard for you to differentiate that?
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On December 24 2008 22:00 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2008 21:59 Hyperionnn wrote:On December 24 2008 21:35 DoX.) wrote:On December 24 2008 21:33 .risingdragoon wrote:On December 24 2008 21:31 Shikyo wrote:On December 24 2008 21:29 .risingdragoon wrote:
this is dumb
even if backho is an idiot he still won, so what if he gged first like a retard
he won IN THE game No he didn't. The person who kills all of the opponent's buildings wins. Alternatively, the player who GG's first and leaves the game loses. Also, after you gg you must leave. get outta here who eliminates all buildings to win in pro matchs lately? and GG is just formality you can't possibly turn a won game into a loss cus of a couple of letters, that'd be retarded beyond backho Savior vs Nalra on sin peaks? Savior vs TT on Neo Requiem? This games were fucking elemination race, your examples fail more than backho. "who eliminates all buildings to win in pro matchs lately? " was the question.
If your opponent does not leave the game, you will eleminate all buildings man, it's up to other player.
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I think what Shikyo is trying to say is that in starcraft nothing is absolute, and that as long as theres the slimmest chance of a player comming back, you should never count him out. Maybe backho was given the win this time, but they should not do this in all cases
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Firefist FUCCCCCCCCCCCCK YOU!
 . There goes a fantasy osl team member
EDIT: SWEET! I didn't pick Firefist!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes.  . But still.. firefist man, pick it up for KTF
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Look, it's late late night and somehow I can't tolerate idiocy at this hour.
So here's my calm baby talk:
Backho-Firefist is one guy doing nothing while the other guy does the eliminating. This situation is common, and if the game continues it'd have been 1-man elimination.
Savior-rA is 2 guys with 2 armies trying to finish eachother's buildings off. They're both still in it. That's 2-man elimination.
Draw game is when both have nothing/nothing effective with which to eliminate the other and no mins to make anything. The game ends in draw.
Chalrenge is in a class all by himself. He got a draw game off of Rock by dragging the game out and boring the audience, forcing a regame with public opinion. He also got eliminated but that was in the last game of the PL playoff, it was a "very important" game.
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On December 24 2008 21:55 Shikyo wrote:
So if I understood correctly, after the Z gets T down to 1 base and like no units, like in Zero vs FBH, if Zero had GG'd right there, he would have gotten the game? -_- Okay, I'm done arguing, but "depending on if he had a chance or not" is the most shallow rule ever.
First Zero won't type GG , second accidents happen even if Zero did type GG FBH has the call to choose if he wants to take the win , continue playing or admit defeat . FF did the right thing and admited defeat , because he was probably going to GG any second enyways its not like you can comeback in ZvP vs 105 supply toss with only drones . In BackHO's case there should be some kind of penalty but not disqualification .
So you think that Bisu should have gotten a rematch , because he was dropped from the game when July destroyed him with no chance of comeback whatsoever ?
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Respect to FireFist for being a man and accepting defeat and allowing BackHo to move on.
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On December 24 2008 22:19 firedodo wrote:
This is Taboo OSL
I c wat u did thar!
Anyways, BackHo, although he had the advantage, should've been eliminated for stupidity. Don't have GG prepared and fucking waiting (if that's what he did). I would have laughed if in doing that he mismicros or some shit and boom! BackHo is done.
Take it from the idiot.
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