I think that "IF YOUR OPPONENT IS STUPID TO DOUBLE NEXUS IN A PVP MATCH, it's really like auto-loss vs every viable pvp builds if scouted, if stork went 4 gate goon or some shit like that, it could work very well too, but yeah only good part of his strat is imo that proxy shield battery, nothing more.
[MSL] Ro8: Stork vs Kal - Page 31
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Hyperionnn
Turkey4968 Posts
I think that "IF YOUR OPPONENT IS STUPID TO DOUBLE NEXUS IN A PVP MATCH, it's really like auto-loss vs every viable pvp builds if scouted, if stork went 4 gate goon or some shit like that, it could work very well too, but yeah only good part of his strat is imo that proxy shield battery, nothing more. | ||
Elgar
United States231 Posts
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moebius_string
United States264 Posts
On October 31 2008 03:04 ahole-surprise wrote: How is that vindication? Kal helped Stork beat Best, perhaps for his own benefit but he did it nonetheless. It's vindication if you think Best is sitting at home sucking his thumb and cheering that the guy who helped Stork beat him has now beat Stork and has a chance at an MSL while Best is not even in a starleague anymore, unless you count GOM TV Classic 2. And Kal beating Stork doesn't dispute that Stork >>>> Best, not even in the slightest. It vindicates the argument that Stork hasn't taken Best's place as the preeminent Protoss, when Kal beats him days after his OSL victory. What does that say when your ability to do well rests so heavily on practicing for a certain match up, that you have trouble versus a(47.50%) Protoss without extra practice? | ||
Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
Proud to be one of the 70 who voted for Kal This is a massive step toward's building stork's confidence to win the silver medal again. wtf was kal thinking game 4 though? | ||
ahole-surprise
United States813 Posts
On October 31 2008 03:42 moebius_string wrote: It vindicates the argument that Stork hasn't taken Best's place as the preeminent Protoss, when Kal beats him days after his OSL victory. What does that say when your ability to do well rests so heavily on practicing for a certain match up, that you have trouble versus a(47.50%) Protoss without extra practice? So, what has Best done besides NOT win important series in starleagues recently? Beating up on mostly second tier Protoss players in PvP, cheesing boxer, and losing to a lot of Zergs- Best was hardly the undisputed Protoss king. Maybe he was PvP king for a while, but Stork beat him convincingly in a series, so that leaves Best with little to call him the preeminent protoss. I'm not even a Stork fan, even though I definitely prefer him over the feminine protoss duo of SKT, so I have no reason to exaggerate anything. And the truth is, he has had a lot of matches to play, even since the OSL semifinals where he had to play Forgg with what was probably not much practice and still beat that TvP monster, and then played a Zerg in the GOM tv match. And he's probably putting a lot of mental focus on his OSL final, and rightfully so. This close loss to Kal does not put Best above Stork. | ||
fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On October 31 2008 03:58 ahole-surprise wrote: So, what has Best done besides NOT win important series in starleagues recently? Beating up on mostly second tier Protoss players in PvP, cheesing boxer, and losing to a lot of Zergs- Best was hardly the undisputed Protoss king. Maybe he was PvP king for a while, but Stork beat him convincingly in a series, so that leaves Best with little to call him the preeminent protoss. I'm not even a Stork fan, even though I definitely prefer him over the feminine protoss duo of SKT, so I have no reason to exaggerate anything. And the truth is, he has had a lot of matches to play, even since the OSL semifinals where he had to play Forgg with what was probably not much practice and still beat that TvP monster, and then played a Zerg in the GOM tv match. And he's probably putting a lot of mental focus on his OSL final, and rightfully so. This close loss to Kal does not put Best above Stork. lololololololol | ||
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Aesop
Hungary11240 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Mikilatov
United States3897 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On October 31 2008 03:41 Hyperionnn wrote: I don't fucking get that people say that "Stork's strat was fucking good in game 4" I think that "IF YOUR OPPONENT IS STUPID TO DOUBLE NEXUS IN A PVP MATCH, it's really like auto-loss vs every viable pvp builds if scouted, if stork went 4 gate goon or some shit like that, it could work very well too, but yeah only good part of his strat is imo that proxy shield battery, nothing more. | ||
capek
United States585 Posts
On October 31 2008 03:41 Elgar wrote: The world is slowly righting itself once again; Savior is starting to show life again, iloveoov coming back to SC, Boxer moving back to SKT1, Stork losing.... no... if the world was right, stork would make it to all three finals and lose. | ||
TW WiNNinG 54
United States250 Posts
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disciple
9070 Posts
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Piste
6165 Posts
In game 4 there was nothing pimp imo, just perfectly done counter vs pvp fe. I hope Bisu takes the title ![]() | ||
RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
In this series, he completely won the mind game, something Stork is not really good at, but I don't know what will happen if he faces Jangbi. This guy has the killer instinct Stork doesn't. I'd love to see Nada do it again and win it all, but if Free wins, I really hope he can take it home. If both fail, fuck, let Kal win it. | ||
SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
I'm so glad Stork got his ass 4 gated. I wish Kal's DTs did more everygame... I love you Kal, thanks for beating Stork for me. =). Kal for #2 Protoss~~ | ||
Raithed
China7078 Posts
wtf. i agree with him though. im not a stork fan. yes, its nice to see some dominance in him and come the fuck on, its a mirror game, its 50% win/loss, stork couldve had a bad day. i think hes mainly practicing more for pvt(vs fantasy) than pvz or pvp, given the fact that yes, he bested best. best > kal > stork, but it could have been best > stork > kal or whatever, look, its mirror, it doesnt put best as king of protoss. i think stork claims it, atm anyway. HOWEVER, if he LOSES to fantasy, then i would eat my own words and say yeah, best > stork because im pretty certain that best would easily beat fantasy. but then again i have faith in stork this time, the big names are out of his way: forgg, jd, flash, best... stork should beat fantasy easily but if he chokes. sigh. he wont have another easy chance at this kind of stardom again and fantasy will walk the epic road. | ||
Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
Half the people joining the bandwagon now will abandon it when stork loses. He's one of the best, but I just don't think he can win a starleague. | ||
Piste
6165 Posts
On October 31 2008 06:08 Raithed wrote: wtf. i agree with him though. im not a stork fan. yes, its nice to see some dominance in him and come the fuck on, its a mirror game, its 50% win/loss, stork couldve had a bad day. i think hes mainly practicing more for pvt(vs fantasy) than pvz or pvp, given the fact that yes, he bested best. best > kal > stork, but it could have been best > stork > kal or whatever, look, its mirror, it doesnt put best as king of protoss. i think stork claims it, atm anyway. HOWEVER, if he LOSES to fantasy, then i would eat my own words and say yeah, best > stork because im pretty certain that best would easily beat fantasy. but then again i have faith in stork this time, the big names are out of his way: forgg, jd, flash, best... stork should beat fantasy easily but if he chokes. sigh. he wont have another easy chance at this kind of stardom again and fantasy will walk the epic road. well i watched two of three games of this series, and two of them had nothing to do with the fact it was mirror mu. stork just didn't play as good as kal. (the third one was kal's fe which stork countered well.) | ||
Signet
United States1718 Posts
On October 31 2008 04:50 TW WiNNinG 54 wrote: Oh come on ur not gona kill Stork w/ one loss are you? If he wins OSL u will be quiet :p. Just like everyone else evenutallly, he'll win! What do you mean "if"? Stork has the OSL wrapped up. | ||
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