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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
October 30 2008 21:49 GMT
#621
Best used one build order against Stork in 4 games.
Kal used 5 different builds in 5 games. Stork died.

Also, Stork's probes have scout hax -_- They always catch the most important part of a game super early or they catch nothing at all... and the guy ends up going completely standard.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Proposal
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1310 Posts
October 30 2008 21:50 GMT
#622
On October 31 2008 06:27 Vivi57 wrote:
We need friday night to happen already so Stork can lose to fantasy and silence the stork fanboys.

Half the people joining the bandwagon now will abandon it when stork loses.

He's one of the best, but I just don't think he can win a starleague.


Yes, please.. what is this sudden influx of stork fans? I'll be cheering for fantasy.
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
October 30 2008 21:58 GMT
#623
ouch poor Stork, he'll rape fantasy to end this year for Protoss though and that's pretty all I care about xD
Xellos <3
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 30 2008 22:07 GMT
#624
On October 31 2008 06:27 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2008 06:08 Raithed wrote:
On October 31 2008 04:12 fusionsdf wrote:
On October 31 2008 03:58 ahole-surprise wrote:
On October 31 2008 03:42 moebius_string wrote:
On October 31 2008 03:04 ahole-surprise wrote:
On October 31 2008 01:10 moebius_string wrote:
Best just got vindicated.


How is that vindication? Kal helped Stork beat Best, perhaps for his own benefit but he did it nonetheless. It's vindication if you think Best is sitting at home sucking his thumb and cheering that the guy who helped Stork beat him has now beat Stork and has a chance at an MSL while Best is not even in a starleague anymore, unless you count GOM TV Classic 2. And Kal beating Stork doesn't dispute that Stork >>>> Best, not even in the slightest.


It vindicates the argument that Stork hasn't taken Best's place as the preeminent Protoss, when Kal beats him days after his OSL victory. What does that say when your ability to do well rests so heavily on practicing for a certain match up, that you have trouble versus a(47.50%) Protoss without extra practice?


So, what has Best done besides NOT win important series in starleagues recently? Beating up on mostly second tier Protoss players in PvP, cheesing boxer, and losing to a lot of Zergs- Best was hardly the undisputed Protoss king. Maybe he was PvP king for a while, but Stork beat him convincingly in a series, so that leaves Best with little to call him the preeminent protoss.

I'm not even a Stork fan, even though I definitely prefer him over the feminine protoss duo of SKT, so I have no reason to exaggerate anything. And the truth is, he has had a lot of matches to play, even since the OSL semifinals where he had to play Forgg with what was probably not much practice and still beat that TvP monster, and then played a Zerg in the GOM tv match. And he's probably putting a lot of mental focus on his OSL final, and rightfully so. This close loss to Kal does not put Best above Stork.


lololololololol

wtf. i agree with him though. im not a stork fan. yes, its nice to see some dominance in him and come the fuck on, its a mirror game, its 50% win/loss, stork couldve had a bad day. i think hes mainly practicing more for pvt(vs fantasy) than pvz or pvp, given the fact that yes, he bested best. best > kal > stork, but it could have been best > stork > kal or whatever, look, its mirror, it doesnt put best as king of protoss. i think stork claims it, atm anyway. HOWEVER, if he LOSES to fantasy, then i would eat my own words and say yeah, best > stork because im pretty certain that best would easily beat fantasy. but then again i have faith in stork this time, the big names are out of his way: forgg, jd, flash, best... stork should beat fantasy easily but if he chokes. sigh. he wont have another easy chance at this kind of stardom again and fantasy will walk the epic road.

well i watched two of three games of this series, and two of them had nothing to do with the fact it was mirror mu. stork just didn't play as good as kal. (the third one was kal's fe which stork countered well.)

exactly to the "stork just didnt play well." and it doesnt mean that best is above stork.
moebius_string
Profile Joined December 2007
United States264 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-30 22:11:23
October 30 2008 22:10 GMT
#625
On October 31 2008 07:07 Raithed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2008 06:27 Piste wrote:
On October 31 2008 06:08 Raithed wrote:
On October 31 2008 04:12 fusionsdf wrote:
On October 31 2008 03:58 ahole-surprise wrote:
On October 31 2008 03:42 moebius_string wrote:
On October 31 2008 03:04 ahole-surprise wrote:
On October 31 2008 01:10 moebius_string wrote:
Best just got vindicated.


How is that vindication? Kal helped Stork beat Best, perhaps for his own benefit but he did it nonetheless. It's vindication if you think Best is sitting at home sucking his thumb and cheering that the guy who helped Stork beat him has now beat Stork and has a chance at an MSL while Best is not even in a starleague anymore, unless you count GOM TV Classic 2. And Kal beating Stork doesn't dispute that Stork >>>> Best, not even in the slightest.


It vindicates the argument that Stork hasn't taken Best's place as the preeminent Protoss, when Kal beats him days after his OSL victory. What does that say when your ability to do well rests so heavily on practicing for a certain match up, that you have trouble versus a(47.50%) Protoss without extra practice?


So, what has Best done besides NOT win important series in starleagues recently? Beating up on mostly second tier Protoss players in PvP, cheesing boxer, and losing to a lot of Zergs- Best was hardly the undisputed Protoss king. Maybe he was PvP king for a while, but Stork beat him convincingly in a series, so that leaves Best with little to call him the preeminent protoss.

I'm not even a Stork fan, even though I definitely prefer him over the feminine protoss duo of SKT, so I have no reason to exaggerate anything. And the truth is, he has had a lot of matches to play, even since the OSL semifinals where he had to play Forgg with what was probably not much practice and still beat that TvP monster, and then played a Zerg in the GOM tv match. And he's probably putting a lot of mental focus on his OSL final, and rightfully so. This close loss to Kal does not put Best above Stork.


lololololololol

wtf. i agree with him though. im not a stork fan. yes, its nice to see some dominance in him and come the fuck on, its a mirror game, its 50% win/loss, stork couldve had a bad day. i think hes mainly practicing more for pvt(vs fantasy) than pvz or pvp, given the fact that yes, he bested best. best > kal > stork, but it could have been best > stork > kal or whatever, look, its mirror, it doesnt put best as king of protoss. i think stork claims it, atm anyway. HOWEVER, if he LOSES to fantasy, then i would eat my own words and say yeah, best > stork because im pretty certain that best would easily beat fantasy. but then again i have faith in stork this time, the big names are out of his way: forgg, jd, flash, best... stork should beat fantasy easily but if he chokes. sigh. he wont have another easy chance at this kind of stardom again and fantasy will walk the epic road.

well i watched two of three games of this series, and two of them had nothing to do with the fact it was mirror mu. stork just didn't play as good as kal. (the third one was kal's fe which stork countered well.)

exactly to the "stork just didnt play well." and it doesnt mean that best is above stork.


"best just didnt play well." and it doesnt mean that stork is above best. See how easy it is to flip that around.
FBH is insurance.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
October 30 2008 22:15 GMT
#626
On October 31 2008 06:49 SuperJongMan wrote:
Best used one build order against Stork in 4 games.
Kal used 5 different builds in 5 games. Stork died.

Also, Stork's probes have scout hax -_- They always catch the most important part of a game super early or they catch nothing at all... and the guy ends up going completely standard.

Stork just practices a lot so he knows where cheesy stuff is likely to be: the best example is his OSL ro16 match vs. Fantasy, where he put his pylon down where Fantasy's proxy barracks landed.

Also, Best didn't use the same 4 build orders... He used a proxy game 1 remember?
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
October 30 2008 22:22 GMT
#627
Meh I don't really mind as long as Stork wins OSL.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
October 30 2008 22:25 GMT
#628
Damn I'm really sad. Kal definitely deserved it the way he played but Stork is my man. I hope this doesn't get to his head, his most important goal right now is winning the OSL.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
SingletonWilliam
Profile Joined April 2008
United States664 Posts
October 30 2008 22:30 GMT
#629
Woot! Go Kal, anything to see stork go down in flames.
Aegraen #1 Fan!
Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
October 30 2008 22:33 GMT
#630
Nice Kal :D you destroyed Stork :D
Now its your turn Fantasy :D dont let him get the OSL trophy :D
you shall give him the name of the silver medalist :D
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
October 30 2008 23:03 GMT
#631
o fuck. I just realized final is on the night before SAT.
whatever osl final > sat
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
October 30 2008 23:05 GMT
#632
Kal was bound to win; hes a member of the neo neo protoss kings, and stork is not.

Bam.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
fanofbest
Profile Joined August 2008
United States145 Posts
October 30 2008 23:26 GMT
#633
Im glad that Stork was destroyed.Its his fault that he trained againts Best with Kal.
Best[hyo] ftw
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-31 00:01:43
October 30 2008 23:28 GMT
#634
So if you think Stork will win the OSL you're a stork fanboy? Get the distinction right, people.
Jaedong
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
October 31 2008 00:14 GMT
#635
My liquibets are getting raped
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-31 00:22:27
October 31 2008 00:21 GMT
#636
can't believe people are giving Stork shit for losing a BO5 PvP to an excellent player in Kal. (It's not like he got raped. He lost 2-3.) His PvP has always been solid, although not as known as stork's or best's. The man has OSL finals match coming up in a couple days. come on now.

JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1803 Posts
October 31 2008 00:31 GMT
#637
Oh well at least he didn't get a silver again.
火心 Jealous. I always loved that feeling when I was young. Embrace it.
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
October 31 2008 01:03 GMT
#638
On October 31 2008 09:31 JMave wrote:
Oh well at least he didn't get a silver again.


He's waiting for the OSL.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
NonConGuy
Profile Joined October 2008
United States416 Posts
October 31 2008 01:42 GMT
#639
On October 31 2008 09:21 OneOther wrote:
can't believe people are giving Stork shit for losing a BO5 PvP to an excellent player in Kal. (It's not like he got raped. He lost 2-3.) His PvP has always been solid, although not as known as stork's or best's. The man has OSL finals match coming up in a couple days. come on now.



Agreed. I know that theres a lot of Stork haters out there but losing 2-3 to Kal is acceptable since staying in both the MSL and OSL up to this point is pretty damn good nonetheless.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
October 31 2008 01:56 GMT
#640
On October 31 2008 09:21 OneOther wrote:
The man has OSL finals match coming up in a couple days. come on now.



Come on now. That is a terrible excuse for getting eliminated in the MSL.
It's not even like it's a group stage game. The last MU he practiced his ass off in was PvP.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
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