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[OSL] Semifinal - BeSt vs Stork - Page 4

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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
October 24 2008 03:11 GMT
#61
Stork ftw
#1 Kwanro Fan
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-24 03:13:24
October 24 2008 03:12 GMT
#62
Um no spiral, Stork often does creative builds.
At least more than most of Protoss out there these days
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
October 24 2008 03:17 GMT
#63
Best has this.

I hope.

My liquibet hopes so too.

Plzplzplz Best...
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
Revolutionary
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada38 Posts
October 24 2008 03:18 GMT
#64
Please Stork.. PLEAAAAAASE
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
October 24 2008 03:20 GMT
#65
BeSt 3-0 ez
fromis_9 enjoyer
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 24 2008 03:31 GMT
#66
On October 24 2008 12:12 OneOther wrote:
Um no spiral, Stork often does creative builds.
At least more than most of Protoss out there these days

indeed
he does everything from hardcore allins to passive macro games and everything in between

it'll be 3-2 either way
gogo stork o.o
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-24 03:48:07
October 24 2008 03:31 GMT
#67
[image blocked]

This is BeSt's OSL. 18-0 PvP streak incoming.

[image blocked]
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STAYTHESAME
Profile Joined September 2004
United Kingdom434 Posts
October 24 2008 03:48 GMT
#68
Does anyone know what time the match is gonna be started ?
theres fucking nothing i cant handle
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
October 24 2008 03:49 GMT
#69
Whoa! How did you go into the future and take the picture?
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
October 24 2008 03:50 GMT
#70
On October 24 2008 12:31 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2008 12:12 OneOther wrote:
Um no spiral, Stork often does creative builds.
At least more than most of Protoss out there these days

indeed
he does everything from hardcore allins to passive macro games and everything in between

it'll be 3-2 either way
gogo stork o.o

yeah exactly, and that is not based on any bias. just a fact.
GO STORK
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
October 24 2008 04:00 GMT
#71
BeSt 3-0! The streak cannot be stopped!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
October 24 2008 04:05 GMT
#72
Well to be fair any decent protoss should break bests steak in a bo3. I mean people like bisu, kal, free should be able to take out 1 game from best in a bo5. I really wouldnt be worrying about a steak at this point.
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
October 24 2008 04:11 GMT
#73
On October 24 2008 12:31 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2008 12:12 OneOther wrote:
Um no spiral, Stork often does creative builds.
At least more than most of Protoss out there these days

indeed
he does everything from hardcore allins to passive macro games and everything in between

it'll be 3-2 either way
gogo stork o.o

Finally others agree with me.
Stork games are so much more fun to watch than Best.
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
October 24 2008 04:13 GMT
#74
On October 24 2008 12:12 OneOther wrote:
Um no spiral, Stork often does creative builds.
At least more than most of Protoss out there these days

Compared to a dreamer toss he is nothing, if you were to watch his rise (03-04), which I would bet you did, saying he is creative is an insult to Ra or anyone that was. He may be more "creative" than the majority of Protoss on the scene right now, but thats because mechanical Protoss wins more than a creative Toss these days, Stork is definitely a macro monster before hes a dreamer.
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
October 24 2008 04:19 GMT
#75
On October 24 2008 13:13 Sp1ralArch1tect wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2008 12:12 OneOther wrote:
Um no spiral, Stork often does creative builds.
At least more than most of Protoss out there these days

Compared to a dreamer toss he is nothing, if you were to watch his rise (03-04), which I would bet you did, saying he is creative is an insult to Ra or anyone that was. He may be more "creative" than the majority of Protoss on the scene right now, but thats because mechanical Protoss wins more than a creative Toss these days, Stork is definitely a macro monster before hes a dreamer.

Why would you compare Stork to nal_ra in the first place? Many of "creative" Protoss strategies have been done, and the game has evolved a lot since ra's times. Stork is a solid management based player before anything. Of course "mechanical Protoss" wins more than the "creative Protoss." Isn't that the case for every race? Stork is confident in his mechanics and game, there's no reason for him to be cute and risk losing. He still does, however, often choose to do cool strategies.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
October 24 2008 04:22 GMT
#76
On October 24 2008 13:05 mog87 wrote:
Well to be fair any decent protoss should break bests steak in a bo3. I mean people like bisu, kal, free should be able to take out 1 game from best in a bo5. I really wouldnt be worrying about a steak at this point.


Completely true, but I prefer ridiculous fanboyism to reality. My "reality" prediction is BeSt 3-1.
✌
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-24 04:37:27
October 24 2008 04:36 GMT
#77
Stork has been shaky as hell in his PvPs as of late.

Losing to Kal when he had a significant advantage, barely clinching vs bisu and backho, its not the same domineering position stork has been known for in PvP.

Best has otherwise played near perfect PvPs as of late, and if stork manages to make a fraction of an error in any of his games, best will defer that to his advantage. That game with Jangbi is a perfect example, and if stork wants to win here, he's going to have to come in with something wholly refreshed.

Unless Best has under slept severely, I do not see him losing this series, he's got a better pair of nerves than stork, arguably.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
October 24 2008 04:39 GMT
#78
Stork will rape Best you weak arrogant FOOL!
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-24 04:41:23
October 24 2008 04:40 GMT
#79
I just feel storks gonna take this 3:2

Also badass picture
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-24 04:47:42
October 24 2008 04:45 GMT
#80
On October 24 2008 13:19 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2008 13:13 Sp1ralArch1tect wrote:
On October 24 2008 12:12 OneOther wrote:
Um no spiral, Stork often does creative builds.
At least more than most of Protoss out there these days

Compared to a dreamer toss he is nothing, if you were to watch his rise (03-04), which I would bet you did, saying he is creative is an insult to Ra or anyone that was. He may be more "creative" than the majority of Protoss on the scene right now, but thats because mechanical Protoss wins more than a creative Toss these days, Stork is definitely a macro monster before hes a dreamer.

Why would you compare Stork to nal_ra in the first place? Many of "creative" Protoss strategies have been done, and the game has evolved a lot since ra's times. Stork is a solid management based player before anything. Of course "mechanical Protoss" wins more than the "creative Protoss." Isn't that the case for every race? Stork is confident in his mechanics and game, there's no reason for him to be cute and risk losing. He still does, however, often choose to do cool strategies.

If you read my post before you would see that I was referring to two different schools of Protoss. Creative and Mechanical, Stork clearly belongs in the mechanical group as Nal_Ra lands in the Creative. You could say that Stork is by far one of the most mechanically sound Protoss ever to play the game, but you couldnt say he is creative like that. He is a straight up player, one who will take calculated risks only if they are sure to benefit him. Comparing him to Ra is like comparing Flash to Boxer, Flash is the mechanical genius of today as Boxer is the dreaming Terran of yesterday. Even now though Boxer, Fantasy, Bisu, Savior, July and a whole myriad of players have changed the game through their creative builds, or style.

Of course a mechanical player wins more for every race, but I was hardly trying to make such broad statements in this case. I am discussing this particular matchup between Best and Stork, where mechanics arent enough to win. Stork will most likely still rely on his mechanics to win him the game while Best will use his mechanics and his environment. Stork is not a versatile player compared to best and I just dont think he can do something against the mechanics of Best. Im not saying he never uses odd builds or interesting ones, every player does that and withthe way your generalizing I understand where that comes from. But if you compare Stork to Best, Bisu and lets say Much? For the top 3 Protoss right now would you really call him the most creative of the four, I would call him the least of the four. I know he does cool strategies but he isnt an overall balls out kind of player, and he isnt versatile. I have seen the kid hang on to a sinking ship of shit before.

Edit: Oh and Nal_Ra quit playing SC like 2 mnths ago, and he was still competitive into 2007 in individual leagues and a big part of the KTF PL team. Im sure you know all this though.
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
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