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fanofbest
Profile Joined August 2008
United States145 Posts
October 25 2008 16:15 GMT
#1181
2 Jaeden,he played his first game 1 year ago.His official non-amateur game.
Best[hyo] ftw
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
October 25 2008 16:48 GMT
#1182
Looking at the VODs, I like both players (Stork a bit more) but Best really made some stupid mistakes, esp in Game 3 (ex/ losing shuttle) but wow...I think it was a bad day for him.
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
October 25 2008 16:54 GMT
#1183
so, best has officially achieved double digits for losses in pvp
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-25 17:33:07
October 25 2008 17:32 GMT
#1184
On October 26 2008 01:15 fanofbest wrote:
2 Jaeden,he played his first game 1 year ago.His official non-amateur game.

he played in the begining of 2007, i still remember + the time he spent in the b team

...and he was still a pro, it`s just that he was in the B team
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
October 25 2008 20:56 GMT
#1185
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW YEAH!

What up now!!?!?!?!?

This is the birdtoss' time!

God I'm so happy!
ModeratorTL VOD legends: Live2Win, hasuprotoss, Cadical, rinizim, Mani, thedeadhaji, Kennigit, SonuvBob, yakii, fw, pheer, CDRdude, pholon, Uraeus, zatic, baezzi. The contributors make this site what it is. *Props to FakeSteve for respecting the guitar gods*
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
October 25 2008 21:12 GMT
#1186
On October 25 2008 17:03 Matoo- wrote:
BeSt is going to dominate.
Not in this OSL, maybe not even in the next.
But it will happen.


They said that about Stork, too. Enjoy your wait :-P.
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
October 25 2008 22:01 GMT
#1187
On October 26 2008 06:12 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2008 17:03 Matoo- wrote:
BeSt is going to dominate.
Not in this OSL, maybe not even in the next.
But it will happen.


They said that about Stork, too. Enjoy your wait :-P.


That's a pretty ironic comment to make in this thread.
ModeratorTL VOD legends: Live2Win, hasuprotoss, Cadical, rinizim, Mani, thedeadhaji, Kennigit, SonuvBob, yakii, fw, pheer, CDRdude, pholon, Uraeus, zatic, baezzi. The contributors make this site what it is. *Props to FakeSteve for respecting the guitar gods*
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
October 25 2008 22:04 GMT
#1188
On October 26 2008 01:54 goldenkrnboi wrote:
so, best has officially achieved double digits for losses in pvp


Best has 8.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
October 25 2008 22:23 GMT
#1189
On October 26 2008 07:04 Nitan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2008 01:54 goldenkrnboi wrote:
so, best has officially achieved double digits for losses in pvp


Best has 8.

And over half of them are due to the bird brained genius.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 26 2008 03:22 GMT
#1190
Hmm, I was just wondering, if BeSt made the finals, and Fantasy beat him, what would happen? I think BeSt will get dubbed as the next Stork for getting 2 silvers in the OSL consecutively..
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
soudo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
603 Posts
October 26 2008 03:32 GMT
#1191
Awww yeah.

Best just gave (P)Stork a new ELO peak. 2288 pts is the magic numba!
FusionCutter
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada974 Posts
October 26 2008 07:30 GMT
#1192
Best angered the BW gods by proxying Boxer the night before.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 26 2008 07:52 GMT
#1193
On October 26 2008 16:30 Liquid_Turbo wrote:
Best angered the BW gods by proxying Boxer the night before.

no such thing as BW gods! Its just all propaganda for you to hate on Stork!
dats racist
Axidboy
Profile Joined April 2007
Latvia95 Posts
October 26 2008 09:33 GMT
#1194
all stork fans - no worries, he will still lose finals
Fakaz
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 26 2008 16:03 GMT
#1195
On October 26 2008 16:52 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2008 16:30 Liquid_Turbo wrote:
Best angered the BW gods by proxying Boxer the night before.

no such thing as BW gods! Its just all propaganda for you to hate on Stork!

How do you explain the Karma that other players got seasons before?

"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
October 26 2008 18:02 GMT
#1196
On October 27 2008 01:03 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2008 16:52 MrHoon wrote:
On October 26 2008 16:30 Liquid_Turbo wrote:
Best angered the BW gods by proxying Boxer the night before.

no such thing as BW gods! Its just all propaganda for you to hate on Stork!

How do you explain the Karma that other players got seasons before?



im pretty sure savior is slumping because he did something pretty bad in the past. karma theory ftw.
..
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
October 26 2008 18:17 GMT
#1197
I feel these games teach best not to play standard. I feel that Best felt that he could win playing straight up and it really cost him here. Stork on the other hand, felt the need to mix up his play and it really payed off. Had both decided to play straight up the winner might be a completely different result.

I hope Best learns from this - take initiative in your builds. I'll concede that Stork was the more imaginative of the two today.

On a completely unrelated note, I've always felt that 3/4 gate rushes are extremely underrated. They're cheap, easy wins (not to say that Stork didn't deserve to win that game) that result because the other player expects something to happen.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
kramus
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1259 Posts
October 26 2008 18:21 GMT
#1198
yeah, best was so good he never found the need to play anything non-standard and it definitely showed in his rigid play this series
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
October 26 2008 22:20 GMT
#1199
On October 27 2008 03:17 thunk wrote:
I feel these games teach best not to play standard. I feel that Best felt that he could win playing straight up and it really cost him here. Stork on the other hand, felt the need to mix up his play and it really payed off. Had both decided to play straight up the winner might be a completely different result.

I hope Best learns from this - take initiative in your builds. I'll concede that Stork was the more imaginative of the two today.

On a completely unrelated note, I've always felt that 3/4 gate rushes are extremely underrated. They're cheap, easy wins (not to say that Stork didn't deserve to win that game) that result because the other player expects something to happen.

The rush has to be perfectly timed, and is still a huge gamble. Remember that game BeSt vs Rock? Rock mistimed it by like 5 seconds and cost him the game. Stork said he practiced the build over and over until he literally perfected it. Maybe SKT1 Protoss players need to come up with something else..
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-27 00:28:20
October 27 2008 00:03 GMT
#1200
On October 27 2008 07:20 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2008 03:17 thunk wrote:
I feel these games teach best not to play standard. I feel that Best felt that he could win playing straight up and it really cost him here. Stork on the other hand, felt the need to mix up his play and it really payed off. Had both decided to play straight up the winner might be a completely different result.

I hope Best learns from this - take initiative in your builds. I'll concede that Stork was the more imaginative of the two today.

On a completely unrelated note, I've always felt that 3/4 gate rushes are extremely underrated. They're cheap, easy wins (not to say that Stork didn't deserve to win that game) that result because the other player expects something to happen.

The rush has to be perfectly timed, and is still a huge gamble. Remember that game BeSt vs Rock? Rock mistimed it by like 5 seconds and cost him the game. Stork said he practiced the build over and over until he literally perfected it. Maybe SKT1 Protoss players need to come up with something else..


OneOther, I was actually going to name you in the 2nd paragraph but I'm like, eh, he isn't going to read it. =p

I'll go take watch the BeSt/Rock game. Maybe the timing window for that push is a lot smaller than I think it actually is.

Edit:
Oh, I remember what I was thinking while I was watching Stork's games. I think the manner pylon delayed BeSt's tech and forced him to build zeals, IIRC, forcing the timing window to be a little bigger. The other thing is that BeSt went 2 gate expo -> reaver in the Stork game, while in the Rock game he went straight up and down 2 gate reaver, which makes it a lot easier to fend off the 4 gate rush.

I actually think that the timing window was blown open by the manner pylons and the subsequent zeal harass, actually. But what really made the timing work was the expo. Manner pylons must be effective for something because I've seen a lot more progamers do them of the late, especially coupled with zeal harass.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
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