EPTHe feels untouchable, basically an autowin on PL. And it's not like he doesn't have anyone backing him up on his team. And I think Flash is starting to lose self confidence pretty quickly. He has gone from smirking after losing to covering his face with his hands in the verge of crying. I'm not saying Flash is gone, but I don't think he will ever bounce back to the monster terran he once was.
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RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
He feels untouchable, basically an autowin on PL. And it's not like he doesn't have anyone backing him up on his team. And I think Flash is starting to lose self confidence pretty quickly. He has gone from smirking after losing to covering his face with his hands in the verge of crying. I'm not saying Flash is gone, but I don't think he will ever bounce back to the monster terran he once was. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
WTF WHAT THE HELERKWL#$!!@!@$$$ BOOOOOEEEeeeeee | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
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dmfg
United Kingdom591 Posts
Still, I can't believe Flash went for a 14CC after having done so so often, and having been 9pooled by Jaedong so many times in the past. I was hoping he had some special build prepared just in case he ever had to play Jaedong in ace.. | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On October 16 2008 09:01 3 Lions wrote: Jaedong will drop the first set of the MSL ro16 to free cuz I really doubt he's had enough time to practice, and Free is a top-class progamer. Willing to put money on that?  | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
uh...i'd be willing to put some pride on that edit: here's why: ZvP on Byzantium...0-7 see? I recognize JD as a great player, but Free has been practicing for nothing else for a week. Jaedong has a day or 2 to get this ready. I think if he fails to win the first set, he will definitely win sets 2 and 3. | ||
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On October 16 2008 07:36 Vasoline73 wrote: You know what I think the difference between Flash and Jaedong going into this ace match was? Flash went in thinking "Oh great I can redeem myself, play with my rival, and have a good game we can laugh over. This should be fun" Jaedong went in thinking "I'm going to snipe a terran" One meant business and the other was just too carefree. That's why Flash got owned... you could see it on his face before the match that he was just excited to play, and Jaedong was just a stone cold killer. You know what I think? You have no way of telling that and your subconscious influenced your conscious. I think the difference between Flash and Jaedong was confidence. | ||
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SilverskY
Korea (South)3086 Posts
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iloveHieu
United States1919 Posts
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Atrioc
United States1865 Posts
#4/#5 ![[image loading]](http://i37.tinypic.com/21oy1hk.png) | ||
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SilverskY
Korea (South)3086 Posts
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capek
United States585 Posts
On October 16 2008 10:39 Atrioc wrote: i think the problem with flash is he cannot rave dance #4/#5 Spot on reason. Flash is hard slumping | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
Free just... plays so terrible at times... I dunno. | ||
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
And yes, 14cc would even be a mistake if Flash had won (in that case he would just have been lucky for not being rushed). Is that really pro? | ||
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ohhsuup
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mog87
United States1586 Posts
Again sometimes starcraft fans are overly critical, Savior was slumping Flash is just going through a rough patch and has lost to strong players, this does not qualify as a slump and hes still playing some damn good starcraft, hes just being punished for his overly greedy builds alot more, as seen in his msl set vs forgg. And the mine incident with forgg was pretty funny, whoda thunk that would happen lol. | ||
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QibingZero
2611 Posts
JD's build enabled him to survive anything a terran could throw out in the starting phase of the game, with only the added 'risk' of having to put on a lot of pressure to keep things even if the terran played more 'standard'. Flash's build left him open to a plethora of zerg build orders, including ones that aren't even close to all-in. Hell, 14cc is even riskier than most all-in rushes, because at least when you rush, you're the one applying the pressure. I really don't think it's ever worth it. | ||
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Asjo
Denmark664 Posts
On October 16 2008 07:24 EvoChamber wrote: I don't really think we have a disagreement here, then. It's just that on TL, there's a tendency, when someone's favorite player loses, to blame it on "build order," with the implication that no skill was involved and that Flash or Sea or Jaedong is still the better player even though they lost and that the winner's victory somehow doesn't count, an attitude which is fundamentally dishonest about how the game is played. Hopefully soon we can refer to build-order wins without any of these connotations, but I'm not really holding my breath. True. I guess I'm just worried about the linguistics here. This was only a build-order win, but Jaedong secured it through smart strategical choices. I can see that Scaramanga seems to exemplify what you're talking about pretty well. | ||
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