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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8092 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-15 06:37:36
October 15 2008 06:31 GMT
#301
On October 15 2008 15:24 EvoChamber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2008 15:07 Scaramanga wrote:
On October 15 2008 14:55 EvoChamber wrote:
To be fair, this wasn't only a BO win. Jaedong read Flash's mind perfectly. Harmony is a large map, which favors early expansions over rush builds, and it's known to favor Terran in general. Flash thought that if he could get off a 14cc, he could win the game using the huge macro boost and the map to his advantage. Jaedong keyed in on this and did the only build that could counter 14cc on such a large map. So....it's not like there wasn't strategy, just that it was all done before the game and not in-game.

LOL, i'll be the odd one out
Nah dude your wrong. this is just straight BO loss if you cant see that its kinda silly, if FS can call sea's loss to fantasy a BO loss then im calling this a BO loss, he beat hiya so im not dissapointed.
BL my little monster, go smash fantasy in gom and some random MBC player

On October 15 2008 14:58 ArC_man wrote:
Flash is trash now


Based on a BO loss to JD, even though he beat hiya?


Nah dude you're wrong. See dude the thing is, you don't know how to think about SC. You just know how to cheer on Flash, dude. You like Flash because he wins, and you don't understand how he wins and now you don't understand why he loses man. And, dude, you don't know how to read. I didn't say it wasn't a BO win. I said it wasn't only a BO win. So maybe you should wait a few years and learn how to reason before you make another ignorant-ass comment, kid.


So what your saying, is im stupid in thinking that this wasnt just a BO win? even if what your saying is true and jd had this maped out a 9pool thinking that flash was going to 14cc, thats not a BO win? thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard,
FS says oh poor sea, lost due to BO and everyone sighs and agrees, i say it when it applies even more but i get laughed at by stupid arrogant lecaf fans
Face the facts man, that wasnt some master plan by jd, it was straight BO win
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
nezera
Profile Joined March 2008
Indonesia176 Posts
October 15 2008 06:37 GMT
#302
yeah its BO win coz Flash BO is very very predictable like usual...look at MSL n GOM semis last season...
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8092 Posts
October 15 2008 06:39 GMT
#303
On October 15 2008 15:37 nezera wrote:
yeah its BO win coz Flash BO is very very predictable like usual...look at MSL n GOM semis last season...

Hi troll, get back under yo bridge!
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
October 15 2008 06:44 GMT
#304
Shut up, Flash sucks, he 14cc's too much.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
October 15 2008 06:46 GMT
#305
from now on Flash should just cheese zerg.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 15 2008 06:55 GMT
#306
yay! CJ :D
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
October 15 2008 07:04 GMT
#307
Flash, from this day forth, will proxy 14CC every game against a Z.
Graphics
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
October 15 2008 07:43 GMT
#308
"Or he could be going for a FE, you never know."
Jaedong
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
October 15 2008 08:01 GMT
#309
On October 15 2008 15:44 SuperJongMan wrote:
Shut up, Flash sucks, he 14cc's too much.

This.
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
fw *
Profile Joined April 2003
Korea (South)1201 Posts
October 15 2008 08:05 GMT
#310
anyway BO win is one part of talents as a pro. they play for the win.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
October 15 2008 08:09 GMT
#311
On October 15 2008 15:24 EvoChamber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2008 15:07 Scaramanga wrote:
On October 15 2008 14:55 EvoChamber wrote:
To be fair, this wasn't only a BO win. Jaedong read Flash's mind perfectly. Harmony is a large map, which favors early expansions over rush builds, and it's known to favor Terran in general. Flash thought that if he could get off a 14cc, he could win the game using the huge macro boost and the map to his advantage. Jaedong keyed in on this and did the only build that could counter 14cc on such a large map. So....it's not like there wasn't strategy, just that it was all done before the game and not in-game.

LOL, i'll be the odd one out
Nah dude your wrong. this is just straight BO loss if you cant see that its kinda silly, if FS can call sea's loss to fantasy a BO loss then im calling this a BO loss, he beat hiya so im not dissapointed.
BL my little monster, go smash fantasy in gom and some random MBC player

On October 15 2008 14:58 ArC_man wrote:
Flash is trash now


Based on a BO loss to JD, even though he beat hiya?


Nah dude you're wrong. See dude the thing is, you don't know how to think about SC. You just know how to cheer on Flash, dude. You like Flash because he wins, and you don't understand how he wins and now you don't understand why he loses man. And, dude, you don't know how to read. I didn't say it wasn't a BO win. I said it wasn't only a BO win. So maybe you should wait a few years and learn how to reason before you make another ignorant-ass comment, kid.

I wish i was as wise as evochamber about sc
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-15 08:12:59
October 15 2008 08:11 GMT
#312
You're smarter, given that you've been following the pro scene for longer. I'm just trying to draw a distinction between a fan and a fanboy, is all.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
October 15 2008 08:30 GMT
#313
On October 15 2008 16:43 xenero wrote:
"Or he could be going for a FE, you never know."


rofl hi klazart!
Freedom is a stranger
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
October 15 2008 08:41 GMT
#314
Come on...I'm a shitty SC player but I know that 14cc vs Zerg is extremely risky...!
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
October 15 2008 09:31 GMT
#315
Oh, right look how smart JD have read Flash and out-BO-ed him. The true is JD took a high risk and got lucky. It's a 4 player map, there 33% probability to scout in the right direction.

Also, Flash knows that JD usually goes to macro game, he's not a July aggressive style. Considering this, a 14CC is kind a low risk build. And, no, I'm not Flash fan. Even more, I like when the zerg wins on such a imba terranish map.
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Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
October 15 2008 09:48 GMT
#316
arbiter_md:

I think we've been proven many times that JD is the most versitile Zerg aswell as the best Zerg on the planet. With that I mean he can adapt, and he will mix around his games, and be both aggressive and play it out into macro games.

Recently JD has been playing alot of Micro instense games because he knows he has the superior micro to other players, and it's been proven to be effective.

So, going 14CC vs a player that might opt for a aggressive opening, is a pretty damn stupid decision even if it is on a 4 player map, and I'm quite sure that Flash regrets his choice very much.
Mada Mada Dane
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
October 15 2008 09:57 GMT
#317
OMG I had such a good laugh while reading these LRs. Thanx!

Realpenguin:
I THINK TONIGHT WILL BE FULL OF UPSETS
(on second thought, this may be why my liquibet status is so horrible)

Sunyveil:
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On October 15 2008 13:43 xenero wrote:
Can they do that? Super-Secret ace weapon, what if Khan suddenly brought out Luxury? O.o
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then the team homosexuality rating would decrease by a good 50%

AttackZerg:
Jaedong trains with backho and becomes the best zerg vs protoss in the history of the game.

Bring Bisu ....

And we get a new patch.

SingletonWilliam:
I don't see a purpose of LRing a match between a no-name zerg and Jaedong. I might as well copy and paste rape 9000 times.

DownMaxX:
If I was FireFist I would've just GG'd out during the countdown.

Deepgray:
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On October 15 2008 14:02 traced wrote:
jaedong gets like insulted that he has to play less than elite players or something
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Well, when his 8 lings can't take down your 2, you should be mad that you're wasting your time.

SimonB:
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after sayin` this for 3 times:
On October 15 2008 14:20 CDRdude wrote:
I predict fOrGG > Midas.
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And I predict Tossgirl > Backho.

SilveR.sKy)ChoseN:
and Flash using his insta-lose TVZ build.

DeepGray:
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On October 15 2008 14:58 ArC_man wrote:
Flash is trash now
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He ate Pooh @ GOM...that means something right? ;-;
...
NEW STRAT: double CC wall :D

xenero:
"Or he could be going for a FE, you never know."


TY!
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
October 15 2008 10:06 GMT
#318
OMFG I'm so fucking happy right now waking up to see Jaedong deliver both against an (easy?) Zerg and then taking down the Flash! Boy can't wait to see the VODs of my favourite player

L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
October 15 2008 10:31 GMT
#319
yeeah....LJD = instant ggnore
dmfg
Profile Joined May 2008
United Kingdom591 Posts
October 15 2008 10:32 GMT
#320
Looks like Jaedong Flash is just destined to be defined by cheese, 9 pools and bunker rushes.
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