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Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
July 17 2008 11:59 GMT
#381
On July 17 2008 20:47 Harem wrote:
.....When was the last time you watched Flash TvP?


I've watched all his recent games (Since bacchus semis) and yes he was playing like a champ but you know, that does not last too long as he failed in both MSL/OSL.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
July 17 2008 12:00 GMT
#382
haahaha
god
im so happy

die flash
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
July 17 2008 12:09 GMT
#383
fuck this shit holyshit

lame finals
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sameh
Profile Joined July 2008
Slovenia29 Posts
July 17 2008 12:10 GMT
#384
On July 17 2008 20:43 Hyperionnn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2008 20:35 Harem wrote:
On July 17 2008 20:26 Hyperionnn wrote:
On July 17 2008 20:24 MCMcEmcee wrote:
On July 17 2008 20:21 Hyperionnn wrote:
YESSS! FUCK YOU FLASH, FUCK YOU!
You just can not think that how happy i am, flash deserves every cheese-proxy-all-ins, i hope that he will suck and die.

Bisu fan?


He used to cheese every SINGLE TvP, he sucks and he will suck forever.

What? No, seriously what?


Well if you know about his bo5 vs Stork @ Daum OSL, that was his first standard TvP series, yet he 2fac'ed in HH, and lost miserably (SCOUUT), he lost 200 units to 7 carriers, and I don't seriously know what the flash is doing in Monty Hall, he made some weird stuff and a quote from FakeSteve:

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On July 18 2007 05:13 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:

flash being a retard and some nice carrier micro in game 1

flash being a bigger retard and stork playing smartly in game 2

flash being the biggest retard and stork dominating monty hall like he usually does

i dunno if you like watching stork beat up retards this is the series for you



so many people calling players who give their best retards..

if anyone, fakeSteve is the biggest retard, who never accomplished anything, and is always adding smart strong comments who is idiot, retard or whatever, forgetting that this is only a game and every player gives his best.


..
Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
July 17 2008 12:11 GMT
#385
lol Flash, wtf?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44056 Posts
July 17 2008 12:20 GMT
#386
On July 17 2008 21:10 sameh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2008 20:43 Hyperionnn wrote:
On July 17 2008 20:35 Harem wrote:
On July 17 2008 20:26 Hyperionnn wrote:
On July 17 2008 20:24 MCMcEmcee wrote:
On July 17 2008 20:21 Hyperionnn wrote:
YESSS! FUCK YOU FLASH, FUCK YOU!
You just can not think that how happy i am, flash deserves every cheese-proxy-all-ins, i hope that he will suck and die.

Bisu fan?


He used to cheese every SINGLE TvP, he sucks and he will suck forever.

What? No, seriously what?


Well if you know about his bo5 vs Stork @ Daum OSL, that was his first standard TvP series, yet he 2fac'ed in HH, and lost miserably (SCOUUT), he lost 200 units to 7 carriers, and I don't seriously know what the flash is doing in Monty Hall, he made some weird stuff and a quote from FakeSteve:

On July 18 2007 05:13 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:

flash being a retard and some nice carrier micro in game 1

flash being a bigger retard and stork playing smartly in game 2

flash being the biggest retard and stork dominating monty hall like he usually does

i dunno if you like watching stork beat up retards this is the series for you



so many people calling players who give their best retards..

if anyone, fakeSteve is the biggest retard, who never accomplished anything, and is always adding smart strong comments who is idiot, retard or whatever, forgetting that this is only a game and every player gives his best.



Retards try their best too. The descriptions aren't mutually exclusive. And if you've seen the game in question you'd agree, The carriers had 150+ kills between them because Flash was trying to just shoot down interceptors.
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-17 12:44:32
July 17 2008 12:43 GMT
#387
On July 17 2008 20:59 disciple wrote:
I'm 1 of the 102 ... ah the voice of reason

I am also

And to think that not very long ago a lot of people were expecting FlaSh to win all 3 leagues
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xiaofan
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States513 Posts
July 17 2008 13:04 GMT
#388
garrrr forgg ruined the finals
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
July 17 2008 13:06 GMT
#389
It seems that SC finally turns into cheese playing. Flash cheesed against Stork in OSL finals, he cheesed against Jaedong in GSI, Jaedong cheesed against him in the same GSI, BackHo cheesed against Jaedong, July cheesed against Best, now forGG cheesed against Flash.

It seems that nobody now respects straight play, everyone wants to cheese. Disappointing.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-17 13:17:55
July 17 2008 13:15 GMT
#390
I have a proposal. Everyone who says "Forgg ruined the finals" from hereon-then as a serious phrase until this is actually proven by the finals being ruined by him (and only him) letting down the standard of play in the finals gets some sort of punishment. A two day ban, or public mocking or something ... I don't know. At the very least can people just wait and see the results before bemoaning how 'bad' Forgg's play is, when he's overcome every obstacle that everyone (even FakeSteve) has said so far by continually lifting his play?. *

* The exceptions to this are obviously the people who are all "well damn, I was really looking towards the Jaedong/Flash rivalry continuation", because that's actually supporting a post with something that makes sense.

Also, Bifur that is quite possibly one of the most uninformed posts in this thread so far. SC for an age has been locked into FE mass economy builds, it's about damn time someone did some risky proxy play to force modern players to adapt their builds beyond 'straight up play'.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44056 Posts
July 17 2008 13:15 GMT
#391
On July 17 2008 22:06 Bifur wrote:
It seems that SC finally turns into cheese playing. Flash cheesed against Stork in OSL finals, he cheesed against Jaedong in GSI, Jaedong cheesed against him in the same GSI, BackHo cheesed against Jaedong, July cheesed against Best, now forGG cheesed against Flash.

It seems that nobody now respects straight play, everyone wants to cheese. Disappointing.

I don't have the words to describe just how wrong this is on so many levels. Go play Zero Clutter NR 20.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44056 Posts
July 17 2008 13:18 GMT
#392
On July 17 2008 22:15 HaXxorIzed wrote:
I have a proposal. Everyone who says "Forgg ruined the finals" from hereon-then as a serious phrase until this is actually proven by the finals being ruined by him (and only him) letting down the standard of play in the finals gets some sort of punishment. A two day ban, or public mocking or something .. I don't know.

Also, Bifur that is quite possibly one of the most uninformed posts in this thread so far. SC for an age has been locked into FE mass economy builds, it's about damn time someone did some risky proxy play to force modern players to adapt their builds beyond 'straight up play'.

That and Julys play was fucking sublime. It wasn't cheese. It was a barrage of psychological warfare followed by pure sense of star. Instant and unplanned decision making to execute best. That drone drill was fantastic.
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DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
July 17 2008 13:36 GMT
#393
wow
GongKyuckTerran
Profile Joined March 2006
Croatia1096 Posts
July 17 2008 13:39 GMT
#394
flash got fucked up in the anus.
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
July 17 2008 13:40 GMT
#395
On July 17 2008 22:18 Kwark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2008 22:15 HaXxorIzed wrote:
I have a proposal. Everyone who says "Forgg ruined the finals" from hereon-then as a serious phrase until this is actually proven by the finals being ruined by him (and only him) letting down the standard of play in the finals gets some sort of punishment. A two day ban, or public mocking or something .. I don't know.

Also, Bifur that is quite possibly one of the most uninformed posts in this thread so far. SC for an age has been locked into FE mass economy builds, it's about damn time someone did some risky proxy play to force modern players to adapt their builds beyond 'straight up play'.

That and Julys play was fucking sublime. It wasn't cheese. It was a barrage of psychological warfare followed by pure sense of star. Instant and unplanned decision making to execute best. That drone drill was fantastic.

flash bio rushes bisu twice and hes a cheesy newb who cant win a straight game
july allins best twice and he has sense of star

he found the gaping hole in best game and exploited it, he earned his win and its pretty cool he got the golden mouse and all but sorry, 5 pooling and drone drilling is not brilliance or sense of star or anything of the sort.
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masami.sc
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States445 Posts
July 17 2008 13:41 GMT
#396
Disappointing for me as a Flash fan, but all I can say is good luck to my fellow terran forgg. =D
mmmmm...
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-17 13:46:57
July 17 2008 13:45 GMT
#397

"That and Julys play was fucking sublime. It wasn't cheese. It was a barrage of psychological warfare followed by pure sense of star. Instant and unplanned decision making to execute best. That drone drill was fantastic"

Thats true, the attack was instant and base to the scouting info he got from the overlord just 1/1000 seconds before he died. If the ove scouted the bottom left, not the top right, this attack was never going to happen. ForGG's BOs were prepared, he did his homework fantastic, but in general will partly agree with the statement that the gaming style of the zerg mostly is more rush orientated recently. Most of them especially in the ZvP are going 9pool just to put some early pressure on the toss and to force him to make 2 extra cannons before the fast nex. But I dont see anything cheesy in that
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 17 2008 13:53 GMT
#398
On July 17 2008 22:40 IdrA wrote:
flash bio rushes bisu twice and hes a cheesy newb who cant win a straight game
july allins best twice and he has sense of star

he found the gaping hole in best game and exploited it, he earned his win and its pretty cool he got the golden mouse and all but sorry, 5 pooling and drone drilling is not brilliance or sense of star or anything of the sort.


I think the difference here is that July was already a relatively accomplished overall player. Sure he probably can't keep up with the pure mechanics of today's players, but he's not too shabby, as evidenced by game 3.

On the other hand, when Flash pulled off the double cheeseburger, he was fresh off of what amounts to a hard-fought win over an uninspiring Odin and an epic collapse against ROKAF Boxer, who's definitely not who you think of when you think "powerful straight-up gameplay."

The best example at this point would be Boxer, but the simple argument for that is that he's Boxer, and he MADE cheese what it is, so he gets a "free pass" so to speak. He and Nal_Ra are probably the only two players right now where people actually watch their games in order to see what sort of brilliant, map-specific cheese they might have come up with.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
July 17 2008 14:10 GMT
#399
^_^ forgg my man
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
July 17 2008 14:25 GMT
#400
On July 17 2008 22:53 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2008 22:40 IdrA wrote:
flash bio rushes bisu twice and hes a cheesy newb who cant win a straight game
july allins best twice and he has sense of star

he found the gaping hole in best game and exploited it, he earned his win and its pretty cool he got the golden mouse and all but sorry, 5 pooling and drone drilling is not brilliance or sense of star or anything of the sort.


I think the difference here is that July was already a relatively accomplished overall player. Sure he probably can't keep up with the pure mechanics of today's players, but he's not too shabby, as evidenced by game 3.

On the other hand, when Flash pulled off the double cheeseburger, he was fresh off of what amounts to a hard-fought win over an uninspiring Odin and an epic collapse against ROKAF Boxer, who's definitely not who you think of when you think "powerful straight-up gameplay."

The best example at this point would be Boxer, but the simple argument for that is that he's Boxer, and he MADE cheese what it is, so he gets a "free pass" so to speak. He and Nal_Ra are probably the only two players right now where people actually watch their games in order to see what sort of brilliant, map-specific cheese they might have come up with.

that was my point, everything is based on popular opinion of the players. a popular player cheeses and its not cheese, its brilliant strategy. someone unknown or disliked cheeses and theye allining newbies.

5 pool is cheese, whether you're D rank iccup or a golden mouse winner
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