• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:21
CEST 19:21
KST 02:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 236ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion5BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion5Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon445.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40
StarCraft 2
General
Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch
Tourneys
IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! [ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4948 users

[MSL] Jaedong vs HwaSin - Page 3

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 39 40 41 Next All
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10835 Posts
June 18 2008 20:01 GMT
#41
hwasin ez ez

but its a shame this match takes place in the Ro8

an epic match like this should be no less than a semifinals.
ModeratorResident K-POP Elitist
0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
June 18 2008 20:12 GMT
#42
Jaedong doesn't get much love here eh?
I'd say if he gives his best Jaedong wins 3-1, if not Hwasin wins 3-1 or 3-2.
Maps almost always have pro-TvZ stats anyway, nothing new there... but Jaedong is, like Savior before, not "just some Zerg". How bad the odds are doesn't matter to them, they rock(ed) anyway.
kramus
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1259 Posts
June 18 2008 20:13 GMT
#43
On June 19 2008 04:58 WorldCommunist8 wrote:
, and Hwasin's 2-1 record against Jaedong

well to be fair he did have a broken mouse that one game
BreaK
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada890 Posts
June 18 2008 20:14 GMT
#44
On June 19 2008 05:01 LosingID8 wrote:
hwasin ez ez

but its a shame this match takes place in the Ro8

an epic match like this should be no less than a semifinals.


Agreed.

Honestly, as a Terran player and semi-zerg hater, I would LOVE to see Hwasin win (even though I've never been a particularly big fan of his.

However, I don't want to see someone as big as Jaedong is right now go down this early.

I'm conflicted.
formerly ClouD.BreaK ~ gogo KTF! & Liquid!
Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
June 18 2008 20:15 GMT
#45
gogo Jaedong !!!
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
June 18 2008 20:23 GMT
#46
As Wesley Willis used to say: Cut that mullet JAEDONG !
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
June 18 2008 20:29 GMT
#47
On June 19 2008 04:58 WorldCommunist8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2008 02:43 GeneralStan wrote:
Jaedong would absolutely destroy Much. His Z v P is untouchable at this point.


That's what everyone told OversKy about Jaedong's ZvZ. And everyone knows the rest of the story.



Winning 1 proleague game in ZvZ means the same thing as a ZvP Bo5. I'm smart.

Hwasin vs Jaedong is really a coin flip. Jaedong crushed Hwasin last year, when Hwasin was at his hottest, in an epic macro fest. Hwasin recently beat Jaedong in a match where it appeared Jaedong's mouse was malfunctioning, seriously there is no other way to explain his unburrowed lurkers. At the same time, Jaedong has looked shaky in ZvT on Blue Storm of all maps, although they were against Mind and Ruby (and the Ruby game was more about Jaedong's overconfidence). Hwasin has looked good recently.
Instead of looking at personal matchup statistics and map statistics, I think an important thing to consider is the best of 5 metagame.
Personally, I do not believe Hwasin can beat Jaedong in a straight up marines+medics+vessels macro game. Flash couldn't. Hwasin has to do something early in the series to throw Jaedong off his comfort zone. He can ride Jaedong's ensuing shakiness to victory. If Jaedong wins comfortably in straight up macro games early on, then I feel his momentum will stop Hwasin cold if he tries any unorthodox stuff.
Pulp can move, baby!
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
June 18 2008 20:29 GMT
#48
Hm . . . the maps do seem to favor Hwasin.

That's great, i love rooting for an underdog. LJD fighting!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
June 18 2008 20:41 GMT
#49
pshhhhh I can't believe anybody hasn't picked up on this yet.

Hwasin will take the first set, then Jaedong will take the next three. The last 4 Bo5s Jaedong has played have gone that way. Coincidence? I think not.
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
AirBleach
Profile Joined April 2008
United States123 Posts
June 18 2008 20:43 GMT
#50
Hwasin FTW!
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
June 18 2008 20:43 GMT
#51
i hope he plays strategicly wise game like luxury does , he shouldn't have trouble with the maps if he practise with his teammates. I mean Lecaf has one of the scariest terran lineups if not the scariest i hope Jaedong is prepared for this
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
June 18 2008 21:16 GMT
#52
GO HWASIN !

[image loading]
[Fin]Vittu
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada507 Posts
June 18 2008 21:28 GMT
#53
is there going to be one of those MMS ip streaming for my vlc? =D
The "Finnish Metal Terran"
Pepsicolaone
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States967 Posts
June 18 2008 21:34 GMT
#54
this serious is going to be so epic. i cant wait
I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equal.
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
June 18 2008 21:41 GMT
#55
go HWASIN. show him the power of your marines. 3-negative infinity him plz.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
June 18 2008 21:53 GMT
#56
On June 19 2008 05:43 raga4ka wrote:
i hope he plays strategicly wise game like luxury does , he shouldn't have trouble with the maps if he practise with his teammates. I mean Lecaf has one of the scariest terran lineups if not the scariest i hope Jaedong is prepared for this


yeah they have all of those good-but-not-great terrans like lomo, hiya, and forGG who probably don't give jaedong as much of a challenge as hwasin would.

If jaedong practiced with flash...
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
June 18 2008 21:55 GMT
#57
LETS GO HWASIN
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
June 18 2008 21:58 GMT
#58
On June 19 2008 06:53 Sunyveil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2008 05:43 raga4ka wrote:
i hope he plays strategicly wise game like luxury does , he shouldn't have trouble with the maps if he practise with his teammates. I mean Lecaf has one of the scariest terran lineups if not the scariest i hope Jaedong is prepared for this


yeah they have all of those good-but-not-great terrans like lomo, hiya, and forGG who probably don't give jaedong as much of a challenge as hwasin would.

If jaedong practiced with flash...


Lomo and forGG are both in the RO8. When they both advance to RO4 and Hwasin is fallen, I will laugh (or at the very least, they've all fallen, because Flash vs Kal would be epic)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
June 18 2008 22:00 GMT
#59
I like Hwasing, and kind of don't matter about Jaedong. But for once, I want JD to win just to crush FLASH!
Freedom is a stranger
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-18 22:00:33
June 18 2008 22:00 GMT
#60
On June 19 2008 05:29 ahole-surprise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2008 04:58 WorldCommunist8 wrote:
On June 19 2008 02:43 GeneralStan wrote:
Jaedong would absolutely destroy Much. His Z v P is untouchable at this point.


That's what everyone told OversKy about Jaedong's ZvZ. And everyone knows the rest of the story.


Hwasin recently beat Jaedong in a match where it appeared Jaedong's mouse was malfunctioning, seriously there is no other way to explain his unburrowed lurkers.

who uses mouse to burrow lurkers?:O
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 39 40 41 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Patches Events
16:00
5400 MMR Capped Patch Clash
Liquipedia
IPSL
16:00
Ro4 M1
Dragon vs Ret
LiquipediaDiscussion
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
15:55
FSL TeamLeague s11: POG vs ASH
Freeedom26
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
elazer 200
BRAT_OK 22
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 28013
Calm 4259
Mini 1392
EffOrt 750
Horang2 565
Jaedong 564
Hyuk 393
BeSt 377
Larva 204
ggaemo 181
[ Show more ]
Snow 154
Soulkey 147
Dewaltoss 67
sorry 59
soO 31
sSak 30
Sexy 24
Rock 20
IntoTheRainbow 15
Yoon 10
Dota 2
420jenkins422
Counter-Strike
fl0m1459
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu175
Other Games
gofns18413
singsing2625
B2W.Neo1072
mouzStarbuck250
Beastyqt61
UpATreeSC53
Trikslyr40
amsayoshi38
MindelVK11
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick39665
BasetradeTV216
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 25
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Airneanach67
• Michael_bg 6
• Pr0nogo 4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie488
• Shiphtur177
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
15h 39m
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
16h 39m
IPSL
22h 39m
Bonyth vs Hawk
GSL
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.