EPT[MSL] Jaedong vs HwaSin - Page 40
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
I'm not exactly sure how to calculate the mutas' damage and secondary damage using hold position micro against groups but let's say typically it's 4 mutas versus 1 marine in these skirmishes (I'm thinking the 12 mutas vs 2-3 rines at the blob's edge). That's 35 damage per each 'glaive wurm' volley. It would take 2 volleys to kill 1 marine, giving medics enough time to heal inbetween the volleys. But a +1 modifier would kill the marine in 1 hit. At least in theory. Now, since today it's the standard to upgrade +1 attack on the rines first wouldn't a +1 attack on mutas be an awesome counter-strategy? It may not be as signifcant change in the match up as Flash's early armories but why can't this quick +1 return the razor sharp muta harass that has been lacking in the ZvT matchups of this season? Oh and does the secondary +4 turn into a +5 with the upgrade? ETA: Nevermind... Just tested it and it takes freaking 3 minutes for the upgrade to finish. I don't know what I was smoking. Only works with 2 hatch/early muta thing. | ||
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
However, in this Bo5 Jaedong simply out strategize Hwasin. Rather than do the same old strategy for the 9999th time, Jaedong threw off Hwasin's timing with his unorthodox build. Jaedong's strategy were all incredibly risky! 4 pool, hidden 3rd gas hatchery, or 2 group of mutalisk. The control of 2 group of mutalisk was so amazing! I didn't know it was 2 control groups until I saw Jaedong's FPView. Now that Jaedong reveal his hidden ace card, in his next ZvT series, his strategies will be less effective  Tiamat is such a shitty ZvT map. No surpise it is 4:0 or 5:0 in favor of Terran. That's a free win for Hwasin. The 3rd gas is so hard to defend for zerg while miles easier for Terran. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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Highways
Australia6112 Posts
On June 27 2008 12:40 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Does anyone happen to have the VOD where a Zerg 5pools a Terran, it fails, but he continues to win. I believe it might have been the aforementioned ChoJJa vs someone on Rush Hour, and I remember watching it before, but I can't find it anymore Chojja vs Iris @Rush Hour III Game 3, Ro8 Shinbank OSL I have it but my upload speed is only 15kb/s | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
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Deleted User 30223
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On June 26 2008 18:55 NovaTheFeared wrote: Jaedong is the master of 0-1 to 3-1. | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
I am talking about someone made a comment or a thread I don't remember(I been tryin to find that shit for 20 minutes now, someone help me) about July's micro and how Jaedong, Ma jae yoon, etc had "CRAP MUTA MICRO" So after watching game number 4 of Jaedong motherfucking controlling 2 groups of muta like it's nothing I wanna go and bash on his comments and give him a link to game 4 of jd vs hwasin | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
On June 27 2008 07:36 Kyuki wrote: First I thought it was a mistake, and he just thought "oh fuck it I 4-pool", but that was only for a split second though because of shock  That was well planned I think. It was a way of controling larvae. If you check out the VOD you'll see that JD has 4 larvae morphing Zerglings before the first 6 hatch. The canceling of the first larvae made it so it spawned a new one at a better timing for his rush adding 2 more zerglings to the fight alot faster. Damn that 4-pool was so beautiful... no thats not possible. | ||
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
You shall find me from here on by your side, always willing to offer praise to your name, and I will never ever doubt you again. With the puny humans crushed beneath our bladed iron heels, the haughty and ancient Protoss is next! | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
On June 27 2008 14:25 InfesTeD]i[ wrote: HEEEELP!! this shit is driving me insane! I am talking about someone made a comment or a thread I don't remember(I been tryin to find that shit for 20 minutes now, someone help me) about July's micro and how Jaedong, Ma jae yoon, etc had "CRAP MUTA MICRO" So after watching game number 4 of Jaedong motherfucking controlling 2 groups of muta like it's nothing I wanna go and bash on his comments and give him a link to game 4 of jd vs hwasin it wwas in a blog. | ||
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
On June 27 2008 05:31 xenero wrote: what was the point of jaedong killing his initial larva game 3? jaedong had some sort of software installed on his computer. With this software istalled, cancelling eggs can net you a ton of minerals. This gives a faster pool. It's quite a common trick if you've played on bnet enough On June 27 2008 10:31 Juicyfruit wrote: Haven't these progamers learned by now? In order to beat Jeadong in a bo5, you HAVE to drop the first game. GG 1 second after the game start, or destroy your own CC with your scv's if you have to, just do it. It'll throw Jaedong off his game and he'll lose the next three in a row, guaranteed. If you GG 1 second after the game starts, it would be a draw, and the score would be 0-0-1. Does that count? HMMM | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
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nezera
Indonesia176 Posts
JAEDONG FOR MSL | ||
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Kyuki
Sweden1867 Posts
Well I realize now that it does not matter... *ponders* | ||
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Danka
Peru1018 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/dankaroo/thehorror.jpg) dont fck with jaedong | ||
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Danka
Peru1018 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/dankaroo/hwasinvsjaedong.jpg) | ||
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Danka
Peru1018 Posts
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RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
On June 27 2008 12:40 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Does anyone happen to have the VOD where a Zerg 5pools a Terran, it fails, but he continues to win. I believe it might have been the aforementioned ChoJJa vs someone on Rush Hour, and I remember watching it before, but I can't find it anymore Chojja also 6 pooled vs Nada, who 8 raxed and then proceeded to infest his command center and beat him with infested marines. That was a fun game (though I cant remember the map) | ||
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