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[MSL] Jaedong vs HwaSin - Page 2

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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
June 18 2008 17:32 GMT
#21
I am rooting for Hwasin, his TvZ style is vastly entertaining. Although semis could prove to be good too if Jaedong meets Much.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
Presony-Boy
Profile Joined April 2007
Israel812 Posts
June 18 2008 17:33 GMT
#22
Hwasin will win 3-0 or 3-1, and he is going to take this msl as well.
Hwasin fan since 15 February 2007 - Hwasin/Calm/Kal Fighting~!
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
June 18 2008 17:43 GMT
#23
On June 19 2008 02:32 Aesop wrote:
I am rooting for Hwasin, his TvZ style is vastly entertaining. Although semis could prove to be good too if Jaedong meets Much.


Jaedong would absolutely destroy Much. His Z v P is untouchable at this point.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-18 18:07:18
June 18 2008 18:03 GMT
#24
I'm so excited for this

I love both players and want both to go far in this MSL. If I had a gun to my head, I would say I am rooting for Jaedong more simply because I enjoy watching him more. But Hwasin is so good, I want to see him break through and win a Starleague. He is very deserving of it and STX needs a Champion. July is there only champ and he won it in another team. Basically, whoever wins this, I hope wins the entire MSL.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
June 18 2008 18:19 GMT
#25
Nice OP ^____^
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trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
June 18 2008 18:48 GMT
#26
Hwasin !! Make me proud my boy^^
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
June 18 2008 18:50 GMT
#27
In my opinion - Lee Jae Dong will win this - 3-0 or 3-1 (if Hwasin is lucky ).
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
June 18 2008 18:53 GMT
#28
It looks like Jaedong is trying to grope something and Hwasin is trying to jerk off something...

I have a dirty mind...

My money's on gropers though!
this is my quote.
Krzycho
Profile Joined July 2007
Poland442 Posts
June 18 2008 19:12 GMT
#29
gogo Jaedong 3-1 (Hwasin will win with 1 rush)
RifleCow
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada637 Posts
June 18 2008 19:14 GMT
#30
FUCK, I have my final five and half hours after this game starts, life is cruel. T.T
hohoho
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
June 18 2008 19:15 GMT
#31
i would like jd vs much much better than much vs hwasin
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-18 19:19:51
June 18 2008 19:16 GMT
#32
Go Hwasin...you can do it.

RED SNIPER FIGHTING

Oh, one more thing, if you want to be an instant Hwasin fan then watch this video:


✌
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
June 18 2008 19:24 GMT
#33
On June 19 2008 04:16 jwd241224 wrote:
Oh, one more thing, if you want to be an instant Hwasin fan then watch this video:

I loved this scene when I watched it live, so amazing.
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tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
June 18 2008 19:25 GMT
#34
I think Hwasin will win, or jaedong will win by gaining huge leads by muta micro
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-18 19:34:44
June 18 2008 19:28 GMT
#35
Stats for the maps tonight:

Tiamat: 3-0 (100% terran win)
Colloseum: 5-1 (83.3% terran win)
Athena: 2-1 (66.7% terran win)
Othello: 13-8 (61.9% terran win)


Total:
23 - 10 (70% terran win)

GL Jaedong

For comparison, even sAviOr didnt have it nearly as bad when he went on his epic shinhan 3 OSL run on terran-favored maps.

Hitchhiker: 14-16
Longinus 2: 28-17
Neo Araknoid: 11-10
Reverse Temple: 15-9

Total:
68-52 (57% terran win)
Writerman what
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-18 19:31:22
June 18 2008 19:31 GMT
#36
1 thing i am sure of

each game with have a combined 800+ apm

I'm so excited rofl, I wish I was there in person to watch the fingers flying rofl
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
June 18 2008 19:38 GMT
#37
it will be a fluke if jaedong wins a single game
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1655 Posts
June 18 2008 19:54 GMT
#38
On June 19 2008 04:28 Atrioc wrote:
Stats for the maps tonight:

Tiamat: 3-0 (100% terran win)
Colloseum: 5-1 (83.3% terran win)
Athena: 2-1 (66.7% terran win)
Othello: 13-8 (61.9% terran win)


Total:
23 - 10 (70% terran win)

GL Jaedong

For comparison, even sAviOr didnt have it nearly as bad when he went on his epic shinhan 3 OSL run on terran-favored maps.

Hitchhiker: 14-16
Longinus 2: 28-17
Neo Araknoid: 11-10
Reverse Temple: 15-9

Total:
68-52 (57% terran win)


The newer maps don't have as many games played on them, so it's still hard to tell (though it certainly seems that Terran has the advantage on these maps).

However, you have to take one thing into account the statistics of Shinhan 3 OSL maps- most of the Zerg wins on those imbalanced maps are Savior's. So if you remove his wins, you can see the true statistics of the maps:

Hitchhikari: 14-13
Longinus 2: 28-11
Neo Arkanoid: 11-8
Reverse Temple: 15-3

Total:
68 - 35 (66% Terran win)

Jaedong can still win, but he's going to have to play on another level to defeat Hwasin on these maps (like how Savior played in his OSL run). I hope to see some interesting play from Jaedong to show doubters that he still has it.
Graphics
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
June 18 2008 19:55 GMT
#39
I think Hwasin's going to treat us to some really intertaining TvZ but I still hope Jaedong can pull some awesome stuff from his ass and win against the maps.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
WorldCommunist8
Profile Joined August 2007
United States226 Posts
June 18 2008 19:58 GMT
#40
On June 19 2008 02:43 GeneralStan wrote:
Jaedong would absolutely destroy Much. His Z v P is untouchable at this point.


That's what everyone told OversKy about Jaedong's ZvZ. And everyone knows the rest of the story.

As for tonight, Hwasin 3-1 Jaedong

Hwasin will win on Tiamat. He is 1-0 on the map, happening against Jaedong, Jaedong is 0-1 on the map, happening against.. you guessed it, Hwasin. The map is also 3-0 TvZ.

Hwasin will win on Colosseum. He's only 1-0 on the map, and Jaedong is 2-0, but Jaedong hasn't faced a Terran on it and the map favors Terran in TvZ 5-1.

Jaedong could steal Athena. He is 1-0, Hwasin is 1-1, and the map is only 2-1 in favor of Terran.

Hwasin should win Othello. He is 4-0 on the map. Jaedong is 2-0, but the map favors Terran in TvZ 13-8.

Throw in Hwasin's 66% win ratio versus Zerg, Jaedong's marginally slighter 63%, and Hwasin's 2-1 record against Jaedong, and no title defense for Jaedong this time.
You're toast, R1CH
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