On February 04 2008 14:14 Live2Win wrote: *YellOw arrived 25 minutes late. YellOw explains that the reason he was late was "This was my first time leaving for a game by myself and the taxi driver took me to the wrong gaming area. I had left my cellphone at my room so I couldn't get any phone calls."
For clarification: ZergBOy seed in Group 15 is the guy who tags along with Reach in 2v2s and ZergBOy in group 6 if the one who won a couple games for Lecaf in minor.
Group 1: Stork "I lub teemleekweed dottu nat" Group 2: GGPlay "OSL champion wut?" Group 3: sigamari "2v2 is where it's at" Group 4: Casy "My friends tell me not to pick P opponents" Group 5: Violet "Because YellOw was already taken" Group 6: ClouD "Legend Killer v. 1.0" Group 7: FireFist "That guy who smurfed for us in sandlot" Group 8: Pusan "Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo" Group 9: Reach "Return of the Mullyang Toss" Group 10: RainBOw "Beyonce is my bitch" Group 11: Tempest "11:23" Group 12: MuMyung "Prince of Zerg" Group 13: Shark "MBC Sniper" Group 14: JJu "ZvP is Easy. I never practice for it." Group 15: Goodfriend "Lord dlqudals" Group 16: YellOw "Lifeisjust (poker)" Group 17: BoxeR "Him" Group 18: DaezanG "Christian Bale Toss" Group 19: Clon "Practice is for noobs" Group 20: fOru "Papa Bear... winner of WCG 2005... Korean progamer..." Group 21: OversKy "Zergling rush kekeke?" Group 22: Junwi "Again Olympus 2003!" Group 23: 815 "Blue Storm be mah crib yo" Group 24: ChRh "Ghosts > Bisu" Group 25: Haran "What are lurkers?"
On February 02 2008 11:29 Darkmole wrote: Boxer is in :D yay! and for Group 11 i doubt Baby is gonna win.. he might win few games but im pretty sure his gonan lose to Tempest and Zeus
Tempest I can see, but zeus isnt exactly in the best of shape. Besides, hes got a better pvt% than stork! + Show Spoiler +
If my memory doesn't fail me, we had a sort of "highlight show" last time, with some hours delay on the GOM Player, where they only showed the best moments / games of the groups.
so looks to be the same as last time. If they go simply from 1 to 25, the first batch will feature Stork, Iris, Much, GGplay, Darkelf and Pusan, that should be sweet to watch.
Do you mean the games listed in 2004? Was the qualification-mode back then the same as it is today or could she have been invited through a wildcard or something?
Yeah the prelims were the same back then, but she might have been invited. I really doubt that though, seems strange to get an invite to a Survivor tournament.
Group 1: Stork should have little problem with his group. I'd be honestly surprised with any other result.
Group 2: GGPlay hasn't been looking good since his OSL win, unless he revounds back to old form I don't see him escaping his group. Sea.really is my pick to advance from the group. Aside from GGPlay, who hasn't been playing well anyway, this is a group a basically nobody's. Sea.really should have the best chance of advancing from this fairly easy group.
Group 3: Iris will be looking to get back into the league after falling short of both this season. The Zergs shouldn't have too much trouble their first game, and I'd give iris the advantage over any of the zergs as well as Eavan.
Group 4: It's hard to pick against one of the current top players. Much is on fire and he should burn through his group unless something goes terribly wrong. The obvious favorite from Group Four.
Group 5: A player I have been watching a lot to break out is DarkElf. I was always perplexed by the hate generated toward him on TeamLiquid. He has really stepped his game up over the last season and I expect him to start making it a little further into the leagues. violet is also looking to break out and do something, But I stand by darkelf as advancing from this group.
Group 6: Skyhigh was a fluke, Calm is on the decline. That being said, most of the players in this group have a decent chance of advancing. I believe that WeMade is a rising power, with a lot of younger players that look promising. Pure is my pick to advance here. Mind's MSL victory can only help team morale and will help its other player strive to follow their teammate's lead.
Group 7: FireFist is my pick here, going along with my belief that WeMade is on the up. Firefist is a solid new Zerg player and looks good to advance. Justin hasn't done anything solo in forever, and I don't expect him to now.
Group 8: Aqua and Freedom will be duking it out in the finals here, That's right, I predict Pusan will be upset. Pusan has other things to worry about and Aqua is by no means bad. I think aQua can take it over Freedom, though I have a soft spot for the former WarCraft3 player.
On February 04 2008 07:26 Aesop wrote: Did anyone find out yet if this is being broadcasted in any way? Last time it was like this: + Show Spoiler [Calendar entry [b] +
last time] MBCGame Survivor Offline Qualifiers
Qualifiers for the next MBCGame Survivor Tournament.
Highlights will be broadcasted in 3 parts:
1. 14:00 to 16:30 2. 17:30 to 20:00 3. 20:30 to 23:00
could anyone look it up on broadcasting schedule for MBC?
I'm really fucking confused by this Oops[Shield] guy. Which part is the clan tag? Which clan is he in? I'll assume Oops is his actual ID because that's what TL says, but still it's irritating.
On February 04 2008 10:27 semioldguy wrote: Group 8: Aqua and Freedom will be duking it out in the finals here, That's right, I predict Pusan will be upset. Pusan has other things to worry about and Aqua is by no means bad. I think aQua can take it over Freedom, though I have a soft spot for the former WarCraft3 player.
On February 04 2008 10:27 semioldguy wrote: Group 8: Aqua and Freedom will be duking it out in the finals here, That's right, I predict Pusan will be upset. Pusan has other things to worry about and Aqua is by no means bad. I think aQua can take it over Freedom, though I have a soft spot for the former WarCraft3 player.
On February 04 2008 10:27 semioldguy wrote: Group 8: Aqua and Freedom will be duking it out in the finals here, That's right, I predict Pusan will be upset. Pusan has other things to worry about and Aqua is by no means bad. I think aQua can take it over Freedom, though I have a soft spot for the former WarCraft3 player.
On February 04 2008 10:27 semioldguy wrote: Group 8: Aqua and Freedom will be duking it out in the finals here, That's right, I predict Pusan will be upset. Pusan has other things to worry about and Aqua is by no means bad. I think aQua can take it over Freedom, though I have a soft spot for the former WarCraft3 player.
Aqua is teamless now muhahaha
actually he's still listed as KTF
Thats true.. perhaps he's just an offliner?
considering he just got raped 0-2... I'd say he's probably going to retire soon too. Either that or join the army.
On February 04 2008 10:27 semioldguy wrote: Group 8: Aqua and Freedom will be duking it out in the finals here, That's right, I predict Pusan will be upset. Pusan has other things to worry about and Aqua is by no means bad. I think aQua can take it over Freedom, though I have a soft spot for the former WarCraft3 player.
Aqua is teamless now muhahaha
actually he's still listed as KTF
Thats true.. perhaps he's just an offliner?
considering he just got raped 0-2... I'd say he's probably going to retire soon too. Either that or join the army.
I don't think he showed up.. so he might already be making that step.
On February 04 2008 10:27 semioldguy wrote: Group 8: Aqua and Freedom will be duking it out in the finals here, That's right, I predict Pusan will be upset. Pusan has other things to worry about and Aqua is by no means bad. I think aQua can take it over Freedom, though I have a soft spot for the former WarCraft3 player.
Aqua is teamless now muhahaha
actually he's still listed as KTF
Thats true.. perhaps he's just an offliner?
considering he just got raped 0-2... I'd say he's probably going to retire soon too. Either that or join the army.
Didn't GGoma just get a 2-0 win because he wasn't there or something? It says "GGoma BYE Aqua"
LoL I know what I did. I was reading about sKyHigh's 16-0 win streak in offline prelims, with his latest victim being a guy names 강민구 (by.mingu), who has the same first-name as 김민구 (MinGu). In fact, they both use their names for their ID's.
Ah, Psionic Storm upgrade wasn't working for stork in his game.. + Show Spoiler +
1세트 카트리나 경기 중, 다른 용도의 단축키 'p'는 모두 사용 가능한 상황에서 사이오닉 스톰 업그레이드 단축키 'p'만 사용되지 않는 버그가 발생해 송병구가 경기 중단을 요구했다. 이에 한국e스포츠협회는 이 버그를 알려지지 않은 버그로 판명하고 송병구에게 주의를 준 뒤, 경기를 속개했다. 이 같은 판정은 '알려지지 않은 버그로는 경기를 중단하지 않고 그대로 진행한다'는 규정에 따른 것이다.
what you just wrote says that the 'p' was working for everything except the psionic storm upgrade for stork, so stork paused the game.. but since it isn't a known bug they continued the game
On February 04 2008 12:55 Sunyveil wrote: btw, I just got here, can somebody post a link of the results page (and perhaps add it to the results post, that will help a lot of people)
What results page there are 16 of them and they're all in Korean anyways.
On February 04 2008 12:55 Sunyveil wrote: btw, I just got here, can somebody post a link of the results page (and perhaps add it to the results post, that will help a lot of people)
What results page there are 16 of them and they're all in Korean anyways.
??? what does that mean
edit: I mean where's the website with the results? Is it on the MBC homepage?
Group 9: The only girl, ever Group 10: BeyonceToss Group 11: Dancer Group 12: Prehistoric Being Group 13: Mr. 0-3'd in the OSL Group 14: le chef Group 15: lol eStro'd Group 16: LR's boyfriend
On February 04 2008 13:39 shocky2007 wrote: Sorry to ask, but where do i need to click on DAUM to see that ??? I'm trying to find it since an hour and still cant find it lol :/
They will not send this live. It will be recaps of the best games later.
On February 04 2008 13:39 shocky2007 wrote: Sorry to ask, but where do i need to click on DAUM to see that ??? I'm trying to find it since an hour and still cant find it lol :/
it's not broadcasted live.
They tape specific games and air them at intervals. The first airing is in 20 minutes, on GOM
KTF Head Coach says "lately he's been practicing from somewhere other than HQ, so he didn't arrive with the team. We called at 12:45 and confirmed that he was on his way, but since then his phone has been turned off and we have not had any contact with him."
KTF Head Coach says "lately he's been practicing from somewhere other than HQ, so he didn't arrive with the team. We called at 12:45 and confirmed that he was on his way, but since then his phone has been turned off and we have not had any contact with him."
On February 04 2008 14:08 datscilly wrote: Are they really airing recaps of games starting at 14:00 today? They don't seem to have a live stream set up.
YellOw arrived 25 minutes late. YellOw explains that the reason he was late was "This was my first time leaving for a game by myself and the taxi driver took me to the wrong gaming area. I had left my cellphone at my room so I couldn't get any phone calls."
Group 1 : Bright(z) Advances Group 2 : BestGod(P) Advances Group 3 : Thezerg(z) Advances Group 4 : Much(p) Advances Group 5 : Darkelf(t) Advances Group 6 : Calm(z) Advances Group 7 : Justin(t) Advances Group 8 : nsp_punsoo(z) Advances
On February 04 2008 15:32 .kaz wrote: Group 1 : Bright(z) Advances Group 2 : BestGod(P) Advances Group 3 : Thezerg(z) Advances Group 4 : Much(p) Advances Group 5 : Darkelf(t) Advances Group 6 : Calm(z) Advances Group 7 : Justin(t) Advances Group 8 : nsp_punsoo(z) Advances
So far ~
!!!
WTF, Stork didn't make it through offline prelims AGAIN?! Neither did Iris!? GGPlay!? Pusan!?
And yet... Justin does.... is this a joke? (I mean that rhetorically, I'm not questioning your honesty)
Well crap, it's a good thing offline prelims weren't on liquibet.
On February 04 2008 14:14 Live2Win wrote: LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
YellOw arrived 25 minutes late. YellOw explains that the reason he was late was "This was my first time leaving for a game by myself and the taxi driver took me to the wrong gaming area. I had left my cellphone at my room so I couldn't get any phone calls."
On February 04 2008 14:25 Nick_54 wrote: I don't think I'm gonna believe the people that tell me Stork's PvZ is top 5 in progaming from now on.
stork's games will probably be broadcast and after i watch them i'll let you know what to think
Considering I respect your opinion a lot, I'll be looking forward to it.
Ditto.
I usually like to point out, though, that before Savior's slump recently, he had only ever lost to three protoss players in televised games. Three..... ever.
They were rA, Bisu, and Stork. Edit: According to TLPD at least.
On February 04 2008 17:11 diehilde wrote: omg guybrush, ur fan of midas, justin AND frozean?? ud really like to see them perform ymca in village people costumes dont ya?
As long as FBH is the center in that perfomance sure
On February 04 2008 14:25 Nick_54 wrote: I don't think I'm gonna believe the people that tell me Stork's PvZ is top 5 in progaming from now on.
stork's games will probably be broadcast and after i watch them i'll let you know what to think
Considering I respect your opinion a lot, I'll be looking forward to it.
Ditto.
I usually like to point out, though, that before Savior's slump recently, he had only ever lost to three protoss players in televised games. Three..... ever.
They were rA, Bisu, and Stork. Edit: According to TLPD at least.
25 minutes late, because, according to the coach, "Recently Yellow has been practicing somewhere else so he didn't come with the team. I called him at 12:10 pm and he said he was on his way. Afterwards, I couldn't reach him because his phone was off."
IF YOU'RE GONNA PLAY IT LIKE THAT THEN DON'T PLAY AT ALL
On February 04 2008 17:26 SayGG wrote: Why are there 25 groups overall?
if i remember correctly, it was 24 offline qualifiers paired with the 24 MSL non-seeds to make the next MSL.
So who is not participating in MSL surivor so that 25 players can advance?
My guess would be iloveoov, due to him becoming a coach.
so its official gg oov =[
Don't say it's official just because I said it, but it certainly looks that way from the news that was posted here on it. I don't know who else of the 24 would have any reason not to participate.
On February 04 2008 18:50 disciple wrote: Oversky vs Rumble... btw that was it with 100% vZ for Sheis- still 10-1 is quite good
Preliminaries don't add into the TLPD statistics, that is for televised matches only. Sheis has lost to Zerg players before, just not in official televised matches.
There seems to be a few names i dont see on the list.. just to name a few, savior, bisu and fbh. Can anyone tell me the reason for this? did they already qualify through a different method? Or do they just dont want to join the msl this time.
On February 04 2008 19:54 dinmsab wrote: There seems to be a few names i dont see on the list.. just to name a few, savior, bisu and fbh. Can anyone tell me the reason for this? did they already qualify through a different method? Or do they just dont want to join the msl this time.
Daezang is one of the funniest to watch- I like him. He has the permanent WTF-face ! Even By.Baby beat him once - cant wait to see him in "action" again, he will rule the SC-world, mark my words :D
On February 04 2008 14:14 Live2Win wrote: *YellOw arrived 25 minutes late. YellOw explains that the reason he was late was "This was my first time leaving for a game by myself and the taxi driver took me to the wrong gaming area. I had left my cellphone at my room so I couldn't get any phone calls."
How gay is it that alot of tosses; Pusan, Stork, Sea.Pure get knocked out by silly ZvP gayness imbalance in group finals....christ I'm so tired of not one toss except Bisu actually being able to own at least mediocre zergs in PvZ
We all know Stork owns anyone PvT/PvP and Pusan likewise.
i have watched the games on Jon747 account and is one thing i can say the build muta --> Ultra (skip the lurker ) is definitly more popular this days !!! and terran struggle against it !!
Wow so many no names getting in over favourites. Well, as long as the quality of games is good is gues I'm fine with that... Seriously though, this prelim is fucking bullshit.
On February 05 2008 01:20 trollbone wrote: i have watched the games on Jon747 account and is one thing i can say the build muta --> Ultra (skip the lurker ) is definitly more popular this days !!! and terran struggle against it !!
That build is like reav->carrier PvT. Extremely effective if you do enough damage with muta/reaver. If you have good timing and your opponent isnt scouting good enough even that isnt necessary. But yeah I think it's no coincidence we see Rock getting away with his trademark carriers and several zergs skipping lurkers against Terran on these maps. Especially on Katrina.
Personally I enjoy zeal/goon/temp vs mech battles than carrier/goon/temp vs mech battles. I also prefer watching ling/lurker/filer vs ball/skterran rather than ultra/ling vs ball/skterran. Probably because once the ultra/carrier reach a critical amount it's almost impossible for the terran to stop, and the mobility/strength can and will be abused against terrans immobility.
Of course it's great that those units are there, because it forces the terran to be active, but the battles arent that entertaining imo. Especially ultra/ling vs terran.
Wow, would love some replays from this. Of course, it's not going to happen though.
But really, pretty much all the favourites beaten. That's great! I should tell us the programing in Starcraft really has a lot of high-level material. Of course, it could also be telling us that progaming in Starcraft is diminishing and none of the good players devote themselves enough to stay on top of their game. A lot of legends have fallen as of late, and with what I've been hearing about the low quality of play in Korean leagues lately, I'm relieved that the favourites lost, since the Koreans really should be playing a lot better.
Sad to hear that the more "lazy" and easily effective strategies are being popularized. Soon, maybe Starcraft will reach the same conditions as Warcraft 3, and then we'll all be happy to see Starcraft 2 come out. It's very boring to watch utralisks and carrier being spammed. Even reavers can make for dull battles if they are in excess. The worst thing is that is works
Stacraft has always been known for the fact that if you tried anything silly, enough skill could easily bring you down. In some situations, though, I just have a hard time seeing how they could play out differently, given the level of skill and the gameplay.
On February 05 2008 04:09 Mannerheim wrote: Bright? nsp_punsoo?? besga[Kal]!?!?!? WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE AND WHY ARE THEY WINNING
Who knows, maybe in a few months one of those no-name zergs will have his own reputation and style and perhaps even win an MSL! Nothing wrong with a couple of new faces... But I must admit - I grieve for the loss of BoxeR, Pusan and Chalrenge .
On February 05 2008 03:32 Asjo wrote: Wow, would love some replays from this. Of course, it's not going to happen though.
But really, pretty much all the favourites beaten. That's great! I should tell us the programing in Starcraft really has a lot of high-level material. Of course, it could also be telling us that progaming in Starcraft is diminishing and none of the good players devote themselves enough to stay on top of their game. A lot of legends have fallen as of late, and with what I've been hearing about the low quality of play in Korean leagues lately, I'm relieved that the favourites lost, since the Koreans really should be playing a lot better.
Sad to hear that the more "lazy" and easily effective strategies are being popularized. Soon, maybe Starcraft will reach the same conditions as Warcraft 3, and then we'll all be happy to see Starcraft 2 come out. It's very boring to watch utralisks and carrier being spammed. Even reavers can make for dull battles if they are in excess. The worst thing is that is works
Stacraft has always been known for the fact that if you tried anything silly, enough skill could easily bring you down. In some situations, though, I just have a hard time seeing how they could play out differently, given the level of skill and the gameplay.
Nah i think the proleagues give us more and more enjoyable games, i see an evolution with the proleagues R1, there was not a lot of good games and now in the proleague R2 there is a lot !!!
But yeah this bginning of the year is not very good for individual league
i must agree that carriers build is getting fame but i dont think its autowin, cause the maps are playing an important role and still you can see that even the most solid and save builds like the bisubuild have their weaknesses - going to carrier tech is quite an investment in the midgame and the key for the terran is to be aggressive - for example the bisu xellos match on katrina , where carrier tech owned the poor terran... xellos tried to "harass" with a dropship full of vultures but it was not enough... all the FE builds can be outplayed by an aggressive midgame and when its come to bisubuild i think the first time when we saw its not autowin it was agains oversky, when bisu was owned by the 3 hatch links of oversky... and my favorite games is PvZ when the toss uses dark archons and maelstrom, but its quite rare to see
On February 04 2008 21:29 JensOfSweden wrote: How gay is it that alot of tosses; Pusan, Stork, Sea.Pure get knocked out by silly ZvP gayness imbalance in group finals....christ I'm so tired of not one toss except Bisu actually being able to own at least mediocre zergs in PvZ
We all know Stork owns anyone PvT/PvP and Pusan likewise.
Meh, I'm just bitter now
Pretty sad considering Katrina was in the map pool too. Albeit, it was the 3rd map to be played and only Stork got to 3 games while all the other protoss failed 0-2.
On February 04 2008 21:29 JensOfSweden wrote: How gay is it that alot of tosses; Pusan, Stork, Sea.Pure get knocked out by silly ZvP gayness imbalance in group finals....christ I'm so tired of not one toss except Bisu actually being able to own at least mediocre zergs in PvZ
We all know Stork owns anyone PvT/PvP and Pusan likewise.
SayGG, normally I just do a series of find and replace on the korean after I tlpdise it. Being able to use regular expressions is an added bonus for formatting it.
edit: Wow at those dates. This could be the busiest month ever even without proleague on every day.
The ORs are Much, Lucifer, Darkelf, July, and I think Calm. Looks like a pretty good draw overall. Sea and Much should slaughter their group, hopefully Hwasin and Xellos too. Bisu and Savior have very easy looking groups, either should be able to stomp them even in their current slumps. Don't see any stacked groups with 3 players I really want to see qualify, which is nice.
On February 06 2008 07:26 Macavenger wrote: The ORs are Much, Lucifer, Darkelf, July, and I think Calm. Looks like a pretty good draw overall. Sea and Much should slaughter their group, hopefully Hwasin and Xellos too. Bisu and Savior have very easy looking groups, either should be able to stomp them even in their current slumps. Don't see any stacked groups with 3 players I really want to see qualify, which is nice.
Saviors is actually one of the harder looking groups I think.
EPT
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