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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 12 2008 20:58 GMT
#1041
what?

that zvz was pure genius
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
January 12 2008 21:01 GMT
#1042
Haha savior is back yeah that's why he got creamed by chalrenge right, I guess he slumped 3 hours ago and came back just now? Seriously, yarnc isn't even good at zvz.

He's definately getting worse at the moment.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-12 21:26:03
January 12 2008 21:25 GMT
#1043
Not to take away from Savior's excellent victory, but if he had won his game vs Chalrenge in the first place (who played like shit), there wouldn't need to be an ace match and CJ would've had the 4-2 win in the bag.

Still, I really hope this helps his confidence. Show us the real sAviOr again! Ma Jae Yoon fighting!
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
January 12 2008 21:27 GMT
#1044
On January 13 2008 06:01 Frits wrote:
Haha savior is back yeah that's why he got creamed by chalrenge right, I guess he slumped 3 hours ago and came back just now? Seriously, yarnc isn't even good at zvz.

He's definately getting worse at the moment.


Yeah, he is getting worse, and I'm not talking about his micro either. His game mind is deteriorating, he's constantly making very poor decisions that make even the average spectator go "what were you thinking??". The Chalrenge game has almost a dozen such situations, it's almost painful to watch.

I'd love to see him do well again, but an average ZvZ win doesn't really make a difference in any direction, especially when it's preceded by a fiasco of a ZvP.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-12 22:07:41
January 12 2008 21:38 GMT
#1045
All of you haters can go fuck yourselves. This is the MAESTRO OF MOTHERFUCKING ZERG, the mutalisk using, defiler abusing, Shinhan 3 cruising motherfucker himself. His only ZvZ in 46 games was a win against Yarnc in the ACE match of proleague playoffs?

sAviOr
is
fucking
ICEMAN
clutch as hell

I'll never stop believing.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
KimHyung
Profile Joined June 2007
60 Posts
January 12 2008 21:49 GMT
#1046
Ice Cold babe ! :>

M
A
E
S
T
R
O
!!!
The biggest loser is the person which don`t even try since is afraid of defeat.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
January 12 2008 21:52 GMT
#1047
On January 13 2008 02:59 Mannerheim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2008 19:26 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 12 2008 19:25 Mannerheim wrote:
What the christ. Savior plays one of the worst games of the season (vs Chal), but an average ZvZ finisher somehow turns everyone around, "told you" etc. This changes nothing, he still sucks now.

i dont think anyone is saying this

you misread what people write


I guess you're right.. oh wait,

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On January 13 2008 01:28 Byyk wrote:
All Savior's fan, write something now. This is the best thread ever.
THE LEGEND IS BACK!

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On January 13 2008 01:18 Titusmaster6 wrote:
I woke up and BAM! MA - JAE - YOON!!! Savior you truly are the best.

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On January 12 2008 19:56 DragoonPK wrote:
Savior T_T, that was an awsome preformance I thank you and appreciate your tears for your team. Now you can lead on and on, and show them the true powers of the maestro.


It's like people here have the memory of a goldfish.


I assume you've never played sports on a high level.

There are certain very special, very rare moments in every career, moments of such importance to the player that they may determine the path of his future career. To play in an ace match, the deciding game in a tournament your whole team's been working for all season, to play that game after having lost games left and right, lost your Bonjwa title, lost your confidence, in short to play one game that will show yourself, your coach and your team if you're still the leader in who they can trust or have fallen for good and are no more than a mediocre player unable to lead them, that's something so intense you can't understand what's going on inside a player's head unless you've experienced it.

Had he lost this game, I'm fairly certain he would never have returned as the Savior we knew. Fortunately he didn't and with this win my hope as a Savior fan comes back. His confidence will get a huge boost, the tension he's built up in the past months will be so much easier to bear. He stopped his downward spiral and is at the start of a new chapter in his career. Hopefully he can turn this great moment into the beginning of the return of the old Savior.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
January 12 2008 21:54 GMT
#1048
Haha Much was waggling his hand because Savior high fived him so hard after he won the ace match :p
ShcShc
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada912 Posts
January 12 2008 22:01 GMT
#1049
On January 12 2008 17:43 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2008 17:40 Jibba wrote:
If sAviOr hadn't been penalized after the FBH game, would CJ have tied MBC for 2nd place?


yepp


What penalty?
God DAJNFBGHSfIDSHUKLFHSGUIO! -Jinro
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11291 Posts
January 12 2008 22:05 GMT
#1050
On January 13 2008 06:52 Orome wrote:
His confidence will get a huge boost, the tension he's built up in the past months will be so much easier to bear. He stopped his downward spiral and is at the start of a new chapter in his career. Hopefully he can turn this great moment into the beginning of the return of the old Savior.


Also consider the OSL group selection which recently happened: Savior asked Jaedong to pick him to get a new surge of motivation, as he is to play the new zerg prince in the first match of the new OSL and created the "group of death" together with him (ok, BeSt doesn't count). Savior is definitely trying to define new goals and to surpass his period of weakness.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 12 2008 22:15 GMT
#1051
On January 13 2008 05:33 Saracen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2008 05:25 jimmyl930 wrote:
On January 13 2008 01:43 Cambium wrote:
On January 12 2008 17:43 GTR-2-Go wrote:
On January 12 2008 17:40 Jibba wrote:
If sAviOr hadn't been penalized after the FBH game, would CJ have tied MBC for 2nd place?


yepp


Uh really?

What was the penalty?


He took off his headphones before he typed GG.


the penalty was...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=16&topic_id=64465
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2007 15:34 LosingID8 wrote:
oh nevermind, i think the warning is officially -1 points judging from the comments on that news post


i think


I am aware of what he did. However, just as I thought, the penalty was only 1 point, which does not make CJ above MBC even if it didn't happen.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-12 22:26:54
January 12 2008 22:22 GMT
#1052
On January 13 2008 06:38 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
All of you haters can go fuck yourselves. This is the MAESTRO OF MOTHERFUCKING ZERG, the mutalisk using, defiler abusing, Shinhan 3 cruising motherfucker himself. His only ZvZ in 46 games was a win against Yarnc in the ACE match of proleague playoffs?

sAviOr
is
fucking
ICEMAN
clutch as hell

I'll never stop believing.

I like how there's a double standard here. People are allowed to hate on Bisu, but no one is allowed to touch Savior. So basically, likewise, all Bisu haters can go fuck themselves (and hopefully realize what hypocrites they are).

Anyways, I'm glad Savior pulled through in that crucial moment. He's my second fav SC player, and I really hope he comes back soon.

On January 09 2008 04:32 Dahlia... wrote:
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On January 09 2008 04:26 Pervect wrote:
God, Bisu haters are exceptionally annoying.

Congratulations to Jaedong and July, though. Jaedong looks damn good.

not as much as the "SAVIOR IS MAESTRO IM SPRAYING EVERYWHERE!!" people
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
January 13 2008 00:00 GMT
#1053
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BONJWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I BELIEVE
I will eat you alive
JIJI
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada291 Posts
January 13 2008 00:29 GMT
#1054
Yesssssssss CJ FIATING! Savior lost to Chal.........I knew this would happen lol. At least he won the Ace!
Believing forever in sAviOr. Jaedong complete domination. IefNaij scarab explosion. MUCH <3
yakii *
Profile Joined June 2006
Korea (South)1448 Posts
January 13 2008 00:41 GMT
#1055
VODs!


[CJ vs OGN]ShinHan ProLeague R2 Playoffs - 12 Jan, 2008
2008-01-12 (Saturday), 14:00


CJ Entus vs OnGameNet SPARKYZ


Game 1
(T)DarkElf < Katrina > (Z)HoGiL

+ Show Spoiler +



Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM



Game 2
(T)Iris < Blue Storm > (T)go.go

+ Show Spoiler +



Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM



Game 3
(Z)Orion/(T)XellOs < Seongangil > (Z)Flower/(T)Justin

+ Show Spoiler +



Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM



Game 4
(P)Much < Python > (Z)Luxury

+ Show Spoiler +



Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM



Game 5
(Z)sAviOr < Baekmagoji > (P)Chalrenge

+ Show Spoiler +



Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM



Game 6
(Z)Jy/(T)Memory < Hwangsanbul > (Z)besga[Kal]/(P)Zeus

+ Show Spoiler +



Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM



Game 7
Ace Match < Un'Goro Crater>

+ Show Spoiler +

(Z)sAviOr < Un'Goro Crater> (Z)YellOw[ArnC]



Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM



* All Youtube VODs by Jon747
사마난
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
January 13 2008 00:48 GMT
#1056
Holy fucking shit! That is all I can say.

Just watched the entire set, and after I saw Savior's horrible loss vs. Chal yelling "FINISH THAT NEXUS!!" I knew OGN would win because that was a huge momentum swing.

Then they send hm for ace, fighting ZvZ? knew he was going to loose in his weakes mu. OMFG, that ling battle. . . OMFG! Fuck I yelled so loud, louder that the commentators, fangirls, and that dude combined! He fucking did it omg. I could only imagine what was going through his mind before, and after the game.

MA JAE YOON HWAITIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 13 2008 00:51 GMT
#1057
On January 13 2008 07:15 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2008 05:33 Saracen wrote:
On January 13 2008 05:25 jimmyl930 wrote:
On January 13 2008 01:43 Cambium wrote:
On January 12 2008 17:43 GTR-2-Go wrote:
On January 12 2008 17:40 Jibba wrote:
If sAviOr hadn't been penalized after the FBH game, would CJ have tied MBC for 2nd place?


yepp


Uh really?

What was the penalty?


He took off his headphones before he typed GG.


the penalty was...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=16&topic_id=64465
On December 30 2007 15:34 LosingID8 wrote:
oh nevermind, i think the warning is officially -1 points judging from the comments on that news post


i think


I am aware of what he did. However, just as I thought, the penalty was only 1 point, which does not make CJ above MBC even if it didn't happen.

It makes them tie. If I recall, MBC is at 52 points, CJ at 51.


I love sAviOr but the fanboydom here is pretty pathetic. :/
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
January 13 2008 01:21 GMT
#1058
Well, whether you like Savior or not, I think the most underrated person on this thread is Coach Cho from CJ. He has a way of grooming players to bring out their full potential, and I don't believe that Savior was picked on the spur of the moment. I believe he had been practising for the ace match for the past week. Coach Cho often makes calls that seem ridiculous, like choosing Darkelf as ace, or a slumping Savior as ace. But more often than not, his choices turn out to be the correct ones. He knows exactly how much pressure to exert to bring out the best in his players. He also knows how to show that he has faith in his players, so much so that the faith becomes self justifying. Choosing Savior for ace has repercussions that go beyond winning this match, and I think the decision was made as much in Savior's interest as much as the team's.

In short, as the playoffs continue, let's not forget the coaches who are responsible for so much but get so little credit.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 13 2008 01:28 GMT
#1059
really? I think coach cho picked savior because he lost to chalrenge.

more of an attempt to repair his player's psychology than to win the match.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
January 13 2008 01:40 GMT
#1060
On January 13 2008 10:28 fusionsdf wrote:
really? I think coach cho picked savior because he lost to chalrenge.

more of an attempt to repair his player's psychology than to win the match.


I agree he picked Savior to show he still had faith in him and push him further, but Savior's psychology needed repairing long before the Chalrenge match. He didn't have to wait till he lost to pick him. And there's no way a coach picks a random player on the spur of the moment for an ace. I'm sure the decision was made long before.
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