• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:28
CET 22:28
KST 06:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)25Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued [Short Story] The Last GSL
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
Which foreign pros are considered the best? [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Fantasy's Q&A video
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Lost love spell caster in Spain +27 74 116 2667
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1701 users

[CJ vs OGN] Proleague Playoffs 08/01/12 - Page 53

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 51 52 53 54 Next
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 12 2008 20:58 GMT
#1041
what?

that zvz was pure genius
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
January 12 2008 21:01 GMT
#1042
Haha savior is back yeah that's why he got creamed by chalrenge right, I guess he slumped 3 hours ago and came back just now? Seriously, yarnc isn't even good at zvz.

He's definately getting worse at the moment.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-12 21:26:03
January 12 2008 21:25 GMT
#1043
Not to take away from Savior's excellent victory, but if he had won his game vs Chalrenge in the first place (who played like shit), there wouldn't need to be an ace match and CJ would've had the 4-2 win in the bag.

Still, I really hope this helps his confidence. Show us the real sAviOr again! Ma Jae Yoon fighting!
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
January 12 2008 21:27 GMT
#1044
On January 13 2008 06:01 Frits wrote:
Haha savior is back yeah that's why he got creamed by chalrenge right, I guess he slumped 3 hours ago and came back just now? Seriously, yarnc isn't even good at zvz.

He's definately getting worse at the moment.


Yeah, he is getting worse, and I'm not talking about his micro either. His game mind is deteriorating, he's constantly making very poor decisions that make even the average spectator go "what were you thinking??". The Chalrenge game has almost a dozen such situations, it's almost painful to watch.

I'd love to see him do well again, but an average ZvZ win doesn't really make a difference in any direction, especially when it's preceded by a fiasco of a ZvP.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-12 22:07:41
January 12 2008 21:38 GMT
#1045
All of you haters can go fuck yourselves. This is the MAESTRO OF MOTHERFUCKING ZERG, the mutalisk using, defiler abusing, Shinhan 3 cruising motherfucker himself. His only ZvZ in 46 games was a win against Yarnc in the ACE match of proleague playoffs?

sAviOr
is
fucking
ICEMAN
clutch as hell

I'll never stop believing.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
KimHyung
Profile Joined June 2007
60 Posts
January 12 2008 21:49 GMT
#1046
Ice Cold babe ! :>

M
A
E
S
T
R
O
!!!
The biggest loser is the person which don`t even try since is afraid of defeat.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
January 12 2008 21:52 GMT
#1047
On January 13 2008 02:59 Mannerheim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2008 19:26 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 12 2008 19:25 Mannerheim wrote:
What the christ. Savior plays one of the worst games of the season (vs Chal), but an average ZvZ finisher somehow turns everyone around, "told you" etc. This changes nothing, he still sucks now.

i dont think anyone is saying this

you misread what people write


I guess you're right.. oh wait,

Show nested quote +
On January 13 2008 01:28 Byyk wrote:
All Savior's fan, write something now. This is the best thread ever.
THE LEGEND IS BACK!

Show nested quote +
On January 13 2008 01:18 Titusmaster6 wrote:
I woke up and BAM! MA - JAE - YOON!!! Savior you truly are the best.

Show nested quote +
On January 12 2008 19:56 DragoonPK wrote:
Savior T_T, that was an awsome preformance I thank you and appreciate your tears for your team. Now you can lead on and on, and show them the true powers of the maestro.


It's like people here have the memory of a goldfish.


I assume you've never played sports on a high level.

There are certain very special, very rare moments in every career, moments of such importance to the player that they may determine the path of his future career. To play in an ace match, the deciding game in a tournament your whole team's been working for all season, to play that game after having lost games left and right, lost your Bonjwa title, lost your confidence, in short to play one game that will show yourself, your coach and your team if you're still the leader in who they can trust or have fallen for good and are no more than a mediocre player unable to lead them, that's something so intense you can't understand what's going on inside a player's head unless you've experienced it.

Had he lost this game, I'm fairly certain he would never have returned as the Savior we knew. Fortunately he didn't and with this win my hope as a Savior fan comes back. His confidence will get a huge boost, the tension he's built up in the past months will be so much easier to bear. He stopped his downward spiral and is at the start of a new chapter in his career. Hopefully he can turn this great moment into the beginning of the return of the old Savior.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
January 12 2008 21:54 GMT
#1048
Haha Much was waggling his hand because Savior high fived him so hard after he won the ace match :p
ShcShc
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada912 Posts
January 12 2008 22:01 GMT
#1049
On January 12 2008 17:43 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2008 17:40 Jibba wrote:
If sAviOr hadn't been penalized after the FBH game, would CJ have tied MBC for 2nd place?


yepp


What penalty?
God DAJNFBGHSfIDSHUKLFHSGUIO! -Jinro
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
January 12 2008 22:05 GMT
#1050
On January 13 2008 06:52 Orome wrote:
His confidence will get a huge boost, the tension he's built up in the past months will be so much easier to bear. He stopped his downward spiral and is at the start of a new chapter in his career. Hopefully he can turn this great moment into the beginning of the return of the old Savior.


Also consider the OSL group selection which recently happened: Savior asked Jaedong to pick him to get a new surge of motivation, as he is to play the new zerg prince in the first match of the new OSL and created the "group of death" together with him (ok, BeSt doesn't count). Savior is definitely trying to define new goals and to surpass his period of weakness.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 12 2008 22:15 GMT
#1051
On January 13 2008 05:33 Saracen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2008 05:25 jimmyl930 wrote:
On January 13 2008 01:43 Cambium wrote:
On January 12 2008 17:43 GTR-2-Go wrote:
On January 12 2008 17:40 Jibba wrote:
If sAviOr hadn't been penalized after the FBH game, would CJ have tied MBC for 2nd place?


yepp


Uh really?

What was the penalty?


He took off his headphones before he typed GG.


the penalty was...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=16&topic_id=64465
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2007 15:34 LosingID8 wrote:
oh nevermind, i think the warning is officially -1 points judging from the comments on that news post


i think


I am aware of what he did. However, just as I thought, the penalty was only 1 point, which does not make CJ above MBC even if it didn't happen.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-12 22:26:54
January 12 2008 22:22 GMT
#1052
On January 13 2008 06:38 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
All of you haters can go fuck yourselves. This is the MAESTRO OF MOTHERFUCKING ZERG, the mutalisk using, defiler abusing, Shinhan 3 cruising motherfucker himself. His only ZvZ in 46 games was a win against Yarnc in the ACE match of proleague playoffs?

sAviOr
is
fucking
ICEMAN
clutch as hell

I'll never stop believing.

I like how there's a double standard here. People are allowed to hate on Bisu, but no one is allowed to touch Savior. So basically, likewise, all Bisu haters can go fuck themselves (and hopefully realize what hypocrites they are).

Anyways, I'm glad Savior pulled through in that crucial moment. He's my second fav SC player, and I really hope he comes back soon.

On January 09 2008 04:32 Dahlia... wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2008 04:26 Pervect wrote:
God, Bisu haters are exceptionally annoying.

Congratulations to Jaedong and July, though. Jaedong looks damn good.

not as much as the "SAVIOR IS MAESTRO IM SPRAYING EVERYWHERE!!" people
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
January 13 2008 00:00 GMT
#1053
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BONJWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I BELIEVE
I will eat you alive
JIJI
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada291 Posts
January 13 2008 00:29 GMT
#1054
Yesssssssss CJ FIATING! Savior lost to Chal.........I knew this would happen lol. At least he won the Ace!
Believing forever in sAviOr. Jaedong complete domination. IefNaij scarab explosion. MUCH <3
yakii *
Profile Joined June 2006
Korea (South)1448 Posts
January 13 2008 00:41 GMT
#1055
VODs!


[CJ vs OGN]ShinHan ProLeague R2 Playoffs - 12 Jan, 2008
2008-01-12 (Saturday), 14:00


CJ Entus vs OnGameNet SPARKYZ


Game 1
(T)DarkElf < Katrina > (Z)HoGiL

+ Show Spoiler +



Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM



Game 2
(T)Iris < Blue Storm > (T)go.go

+ Show Spoiler +



Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM



Game 3
(Z)Orion/(T)XellOs < Seongangil > (Z)Flower/(T)Justin

+ Show Spoiler +



Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM



Game 4
(P)Much < Python > (Z)Luxury

+ Show Spoiler +



Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM



Game 5
(Z)sAviOr < Baekmagoji > (P)Chalrenge

+ Show Spoiler +



Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM



Game 6
(Z)Jy/(T)Memory < Hwangsanbul > (Z)besga[Kal]/(P)Zeus

+ Show Spoiler +



Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM



Game 7
Ace Match < Un'Goro Crater>

+ Show Spoiler +

(Z)sAviOr < Un'Goro Crater> (Z)YellOw[ArnC]



Naver / GomTV (MBCgame / OGN) / DAUM



* All Youtube VODs by Jon747
사마난
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
January 13 2008 00:48 GMT
#1056
Holy fucking shit! That is all I can say.

Just watched the entire set, and after I saw Savior's horrible loss vs. Chal yelling "FINISH THAT NEXUS!!" I knew OGN would win because that was a huge momentum swing.

Then they send hm for ace, fighting ZvZ? knew he was going to loose in his weakes mu. OMFG, that ling battle. . . OMFG! Fuck I yelled so loud, louder that the commentators, fangirls, and that dude combined! He fucking did it omg. I could only imagine what was going through his mind before, and after the game.

MA JAE YOON HWAITIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 13 2008 00:51 GMT
#1057
On January 13 2008 07:15 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2008 05:33 Saracen wrote:
On January 13 2008 05:25 jimmyl930 wrote:
On January 13 2008 01:43 Cambium wrote:
On January 12 2008 17:43 GTR-2-Go wrote:
On January 12 2008 17:40 Jibba wrote:
If sAviOr hadn't been penalized after the FBH game, would CJ have tied MBC for 2nd place?


yepp


Uh really?

What was the penalty?


He took off his headphones before he typed GG.


the penalty was...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=16&topic_id=64465
On December 30 2007 15:34 LosingID8 wrote:
oh nevermind, i think the warning is officially -1 points judging from the comments on that news post


i think


I am aware of what he did. However, just as I thought, the penalty was only 1 point, which does not make CJ above MBC even if it didn't happen.

It makes them tie. If I recall, MBC is at 52 points, CJ at 51.


I love sAviOr but the fanboydom here is pretty pathetic. :/
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
January 13 2008 01:21 GMT
#1058
Well, whether you like Savior or not, I think the most underrated person on this thread is Coach Cho from CJ. He has a way of grooming players to bring out their full potential, and I don't believe that Savior was picked on the spur of the moment. I believe he had been practising for the ace match for the past week. Coach Cho often makes calls that seem ridiculous, like choosing Darkelf as ace, or a slumping Savior as ace. But more often than not, his choices turn out to be the correct ones. He knows exactly how much pressure to exert to bring out the best in his players. He also knows how to show that he has faith in his players, so much so that the faith becomes self justifying. Choosing Savior for ace has repercussions that go beyond winning this match, and I think the decision was made as much in Savior's interest as much as the team's.

In short, as the playoffs continue, let's not forget the coaches who are responsible for so much but get so little credit.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 13 2008 01:28 GMT
#1059
really? I think coach cho picked savior because he lost to chalrenge.

more of an attempt to repair his player's psychology than to win the match.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
January 13 2008 01:40 GMT
#1060
On January 13 2008 10:28 fusionsdf wrote:
really? I think coach cho picked savior because he lost to chalrenge.

more of an attempt to repair his player's psychology than to win the match.


I agree he picked Savior to show he still had faith in him and push him further, but Savior's psychology needed repairing long before the Chalrenge match. He didn't have to wait till he lost to pick him. And there's no way a coach picks a random player on the spur of the moment for an ace. I'm sure the decision was made long before.
Prev 1 51 52 53 54 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
17:30
#38
RotterdaM1680
TKL 645
IndyStarCraft 372
SteadfastSC219
BRAT_OK 154
EnkiAlexander 74
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1680
TKL 645
IndyStarCraft 372
SteadfastSC 219
BRAT_OK 154
ProTech135
JuggernautJason100
UpATreeSC 52
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 98
Bonyth 52
ivOry 18
NaDa 12
Dota 2
capcasts104
febbydoto15
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
FalleN 4558
fl0m2032
Foxcn462
adren_tv93
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu577
Other Games
summit1g13397
Grubby2352
FrodaN1635
Beastyqt805
B2W.Neo312
QueenE117
Livibee61
Mew2King37
ZombieGrub30
OptimusSC27
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 157
• Hupsaiya 47
• Reevou 6
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 32
• 80smullet 22
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV571
• masondota298
League of Legends
• TFBlade1737
Other Games
• imaqtpie1848
• Shiphtur265
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 32m
Replay Cast
11h 32m
RongYI Cup
13h 32m
Clem vs TriGGeR
Maru vs Creator
WardiTV Invitational
16h 32m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 11h
RongYI Cup
1d 13h
herO vs Solar
WardiTV Invitational
1d 16h
The PondCast
2 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.