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On May 25 2026 05:10 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2026 04:23 EndingLife wrote:On May 25 2026 02:45 doktordingerdonger wrote:On May 25 2026 02:36 EndingLife wrote:
10 scv's from Flash vs 5 or 6 drones with expo 50% done from Soma at the end. The GG timing ain't mathing for a game 7 of the finals. Sure he might have had a 25% chance or whatever to win but should have at least played it out another minute or two... How is 11 supply, 4 zerglings equalling 5 or 6 drones? Soma stopped zergling production and is droning up (2 are in the middle of the map). 11 supply, 6 lings = 5 drones. Those are lings in the middle of the map. 6 lings is 3 supply, they are 0.5 supply rounded up when there's an odd number. So there's 8 drones. Idk how people are making such a silly mistake with supply count. FlaSh definitely was losing when he GGed. Could've been a hair premature, but definitely behind. But I wonder why he didn't just give up the main and mine from his natural when he got the bunker up. He had done a brilliant drill and killed 3 lings and like 2 drones. Just mine from the natural, lift the main CC, and go 2 rax acad to retake the main... So disappointing, shocking decision making.
Hmmm didn’t realise he had that many drones. I think a main evac should’ve been done but seems flash may have been more screwed than I thought which is why he was so eager to save his main.
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Great series!
Actually, the 7th game is fascinating, because many of us observers were so fooled about the actual game situation. At gg time, I was totally surprised, I thought Flash was winning. Now, after looking carefully and reading this thread, it is obvious Soma was winning.
And in addition to that, I thought lifting the CC at the right time and mining nat would make Flash win 100%. Wrong again, after more analysis! Soma had enough drones (probably 8), sufficient gas, 2nd hatch nearly ready while Flash would have struggled with mining 7 patch nat, no gas, no refinery, constant speedling surround thread. Soma's mutas would have crippled him fast, no time to develop to properly defend main.
Anyway, it is interesting because it was so misleading. We are too used to situations where zerg all-ins, looses most stuff, terran mines one base for a while and recovers and crushes. Not this time.
Don't take me too seriously, I am C- permanoob but like to watch often...
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I'm going to act like we didn't have this season until we get retro island maps like we used to. Island maps are a T special. Vote for island maps in the future for the finals you deserve.
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Flash was dead beyond belief.
No acad, no gas
no money
no room to build in natural
no room to tech in natural,
and soon he would need endless turrets
He would never be able to retake main.
He would never be able to scout again.
Even if soma had only 5 drones, which he had 6 (I thought, someone else is saying 8) he had kept 1 on gas,
so he has to build just 2-3 drones a boom, straight into uber faster muta from there.
Meanwhile, Flash would been playing an old school 1 base terran with no timings to hit. A mineral line that sucks to defend and so few scv on only 7 patches.
If flash had somehow lost his natural and held at the chokepoint with a marine and wall, maybe,
Flash was so poor he couldn't even run his scv to natural, because he would have lost ability to produce marines.
He couldn't even keep his wall blocked with rax because he needed the money to make a marine.
When the first lings went to the main JD simply said "bye" and waved.
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On May 25 2026 06:38 skelet wrote:
Great series!
Actually, the 7th game is fascinating, because many of us observers were so fooled about the actual game situation. At gg time, I was totally surprised, I thought Flash was winning. Now, after looking carefully and reading this thread, it is obvious Soma was winning.
And in addition to that, I thought lifting the CC at the right time and mining nat would make Flash win 100%. Wrong again, after more analysis! Soma had enough drones (probably 8), sufficient gas, 2nd hatch nearly ready while Flash would have struggled with mining 7 patch nat, no gas, no refinery, constant speedling surround thread. Soma's mutas would have crippled him fast, no time to develop to properly defend main.
Anyway, it is interesting because it was so misleading. We are too used to situations where zerg all-ins, looses most stuff, terran mines one base for a while and recovers and crushes. Not this time.
Don't take me too seriously, I am C- permanoob but like to watch often...
I had the exact same misunderstandings haha. Absolutely because I'm not too smart about BW, but I was really confused because my SC2 brain was thinking all he had to do was start mining in the natural and it was a okayish hold.
But gosh I'm so bad at understanding the gamestate, ahaha, it's been my first ASL to actually watch and pay attention and I think I've been wrong half time I thought someone was winning. Has been a blast though, this game is so cool, what the heck who could have known??
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why does no one talk about the four-drone-pull vs CC first?
game 3 and game 7, Soma did it twice but with a different follow-up
is this going to be the new meta when Z first-scouts vs CC first? if it's works well enough to be played vs Flash in the ASL finals, twice...?
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really sad for flash, it looked like this season had all stars aligned for a final win into retirement and healing, but at the same time soma deserved that win 1000% with how he shifted gears in the middle of the series and how it felt like flash was not capable of beating him without his insane mind game roulette in early game.
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On May 25 2026 07:40 TwiggyWan wrote:
really sad for flash, it looked like all stars were aligned for a final win into retirement and healing, but at the same time soma deserved that win 1000% with how he shifted gears in the middle of the series and how it felt like flash was not capable of beating him without his insane mind game roulette in early game.
The maps are horrible. Don't mind me saying it like the game Best got famous making a Dark Archon vs Action's hydralisks in ASL 15 was horrible fighting single file at the corner of the map.
PS: map was heartbreak ridge.
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soma winning is really the best outcome for the future of game. if flash really is truly retiring, having him go out beating everyone yet again would've just invalidated the whole coming era of players in people's eyes. like even him having lost you see people posting in this thread as if soma didnt deserve the win, but we can at least point to the scoreboard.
soma winning does nothing to diminish flash's legacy, but soma losing would've done a lot to hurt soma's future and the future of anyone that beats soma
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FlaSh!! Nooooo T_T Was hoping he would pull through! So sad 
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I think it’s clear now Flash was completely losing when he lost 4 marines in main trying to clear the lings.
I watched the game again and still stand by the decision not to abandon main after the initial ling run by. If he evacuated at 4:04 which is when the initial runby happened it was still a decent position:
- Flash had most of SCVs alive and bunker up. He just needed to protect his wall with maybe 40% of SCVs and let the rest mine. Soma would have been under immense pressure to attack a well guarded area. There were no depots in main which is a HUGE difference
- Soma hadn’t started his natural at this point and was on very low drone count
- If Soma makes more zerglings he wouldn’t have done much due to bunker and if he droned Flash could clear main and it’s 2 base vs an extremely low drone count which would have been playable even if behind in tech.
Anyway we really need 2 progamers to recreate the situation to put an end to this debate
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Hell yeah Soma. Not the best games, but it was a great finals that told a story. I thought Soma was throwing hard in that last game, but I was a fool for doubting.
Not the most impressive ASL win overall, but he came out on top in the end! Hope Flash enjoys retirement.
Now to wait for Arty's vod to drop so I can listen to him lose his shit xD
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On May 25 2026 10:07 Dante08 wrote:
I think it’s clear now Flash was completely losing when he lost 4 marines in main trying to clear the lings.
I watched the game again and still stand by the decision not to abandon main after the initial ling run by. If he evacuated at 4:04 which is when the initial runby happened it was still a decent position:
- Flash had most of SCVs alive and bunker up. He just needed to protect his wall with maybe 40% of SCVs and let the rest mine. Soma would have been under immense pressure to attack a well guarded area. There were no depots in main which is a HUGE difference
- Soma hadn’t started his natural at this point and was on very low drone count
- If Soma makes more zerglings he wouldn’t have done much due to bunker and if he droned Flash could clear main and it’s 2 base vs an extremely low drone count which would have been playable even if behind in tech.
Anyway we really need 2 progamers to recreate the situation to put an end to this debate
Congratulations, you have fallen for the same presumption that soma and flash mine the same. They don't. Soma mineral boosts. In fact, he is the prime starcraft pro that harnesses it as his specialty. Flash cheeses, Soma mineral boosts.
PS: you can find my posts way back at least two years, zerg gets 450 minerals boost just by witholding 3 drones at the 9 drone stage.
PS2: correction I said 47 seconds and 450 minerals on two seperate occasions and it's been only 1 year since I said it.
PS3: okay, I did indeed say it 2 years ago.
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why would flash not mineral boost. even c rank players mineral boost
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On May 25 2026 11:28 quaristice wrote:
why would flash not mineral boost. even c rank players mineral boost
Boosting works differently for zerg and terran. That is why. If you are boosting with zerg and cutting drones what you have is money and larvae. 450 minerals mean different things to each race in specific points of the game. Hence, when I first dreamed of it, I said this is what protoss should do, you can look up the 450 mineral link, since I always fear protoss more than terrans to counter zerg.
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On May 24 2026 16:41 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote:
Hope soma does the 4peat like soulkey did
Honestly, we could do with some non-Zerg champions...
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On May 25 2026 07:31 Kraekkling wrote:
why does no one talk about the four-drone-pull vs CC first?
game 3 and game 7, Soma did it twice but with a different follow-up
is this going to be the new meta when Z first-scouts vs CC first? if it's works well enough to be played vs Flash in the ASL finals, twice...?
It definitely looks good, it looked like game 7 the four drones disrupted the wall structure? Idk how terran walls work on Match Point but it looked like the four drones forced the first rax to be really out of position. Someone please confirm for me =]
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As a big flash fan, i am actually ok with the result. We saw peak flash, including his stubbornness with 14cc, so iconic. Only he would use this build on a 2 player map in the 7th game of the finals.
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On May 25 2026 11:01 mtcn77 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2026 10:07 Dante08 wrote:
I think it’s clear now Flash was completely losing when he lost 4 marines in main trying to clear the lings.
I watched the game again and still stand by the decision not to abandon main after the initial ling run by. If he evacuated at 4:04 which is when the initial runby happened it was still a decent position:
- Flash had most of SCVs alive and bunker up. He just needed to protect his wall with maybe 40% of SCVs and let the rest mine. Soma would have been under immense pressure to attack a well guarded area. There were no depots in main which is a HUGE difference
- Soma hadn’t started his natural at this point and was on very low drone count
- If Soma makes more zerglings he wouldn’t have done much due to bunker and if he droned Flash could clear main and it’s 2 base vs an extremely low drone count which would have been playable even if behind in tech.
Anyway we really need 2 progamers to recreate the situation to put an end to this debate
Congratulations, you have fallen for the same presumption that soma and flash mine the same. They don't. Soma mineral boosts. In fact, he is the prime starcraft pro that harnesses it as his specialty. Flash cheeses, Soma mineral boosts. PS: you can find my posts way back at least two years, zerg gets 450 minerals boost just by witholding 3 drones at the 9 drone stage. PS2: correction I said 47 seconds and 450 minerals on two seperate occasions and it's been only 1 year since I said it. PS3: okay, I did indeed say it 2 years ago.
I’m so tired of your nonsensical garbage posting. Until you actually play the game, stop posting.
I’m challenging you to a bo7 grudge match. If you win, I’ll give you all the money I’ve made this season on my articles. If you lose you get banned. Deal?
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what if he’s protoss and you’re terran. could easily lose money
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