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Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1936 Posts
May 24 2026 07:59 GMT
#521
Hell of a series. Not how I expected it to get to game 7 but so excited seeing it go the distance. I will never feel bad for greedy terrans :D :D :D :D
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines787 Posts
May 24 2026 08:01 GMT
#522
i called it a week ago xD
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"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
Soft_General_5023
Profile Joined December 2023
144 Posts
May 24 2026 08:04 GMT
#523
the english cast vod is now available

https://vod.sooplive.com/player/196631511
Whiztard
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States241 Posts
May 24 2026 08:09 GMT
#524
On May 24 2026 16:55 Highgamer wrote:
Imo you can't argue that closing the natural and calmy clearing the main wouldn't have been the better play here. No matter what Soma had in his main and even if he was in a better position theoretically. In any case it wouldn't have been over right there like now just because another handful of lings came through.

A shame that Flash had to bow out with this call.


It is because speedlings just finished, he called it when he saw that.
when Bisu switches to SC2...... (2014 update: sighh)
-YoricK-
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States477 Posts
May 24 2026 08:11 GMT
#525
Why did Flash cancel the second barracks when he was trying to wall in his nat? Did he just misplace the rax and not make a full wall?
2_2
Profile Joined June 2022
Poland40 Posts
May 24 2026 08:16 GMT
#526
... what. The game wasn't over. As weird as it sounds, I think Flash got rattled mentally after losing the previous game. Did he think Soma had a good economy behind this or something? After sending so many drones? Grats to Soma for winning, but what a ??? to end the series.
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden558 Posts
May 24 2026 08:16 GMT
#527
On May 24 2026 17:11 -YoricK- wrote:
Why did Flash cancel the second barracks when he was trying to wall in his nat? Did he just misplace the rax and not make a full wall?


Probably because he had no minerals left and didn't get any mining and felt he had to cancel to make marines instead.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7021 Posts
May 24 2026 08:19 GMT
#528
I feel like the right play in that last game was to lift the CC and evacuate all the scvs to the natural and keep making marines and clean that mess. Considering Soma commited to pool first and send many drones to harass FlaSh this option could have been valid if FlaSh did it from the get go and didnt try to defend the Main like eh did. But from Terran pov that is not something u actually ever think about doing. ANd you are just in the dark assuming zerg is expanding and getting to a better spot. Also one of the issues for terran on MP is that Sim city at the natural is just terrible in general. Terran early game is always at risk for that reason.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8085 Posts
May 24 2026 08:19 GMT
#529
Winner's interview... translated by ChatGPT so... it may not be accurate. Take it with a grain of salt. Thank you

Interviewer: The greatest player in ASL, historically the strongest player — from now on, that title will belong only to Soma. He has won the championship. Last season, in the end, he claimed the title too. Let’s hear how he feels.

Soma: First of all, I really, truly prepared harder than I ever have in my life — to the point where you could call it bone-grinding effort. I went into this final thinking that I had to carry on the play of the Zerg seniors who came before me. During the final set, the Korean Air StarLeague came to mind. I thought of Effort’s match, and that helped me a lot.

Interviewer: In order to overcome him, in order to overcome the pressure, you kept studying countless Zerg players, gathering everything together — and that is how the completed version of Soma came to be. There must have been so many difficult moments.

In the past, while watching Flash dominate and keep winning, you must have thought, “One day, I want to show great games on the ASL stage too. I want to become the best player in Korea, the best player in the world.” You prepared yourself for that path. I imagine all of that time is coming back to you now.

How were you able to go from being an amateur to truly becoming the strongest Zerg? What was the driving force behind it?

Soma: I really think StarCraft is a fair game. Depending on who puts in more effort, the results come out accordingly. So whether someone was a pro or an amateur doesn’t matter. In the end, it’s decided only inside the game. I believed that effort would eventually reward me, so I worked incredibly hard, and I think that’s what led to this result.

Interviewer: Watching you, I was honestly very moved as well. I’ve watched your journey from the very beginning up to this point for quite a long time. And that’s why I think this esport is so attractive. Here we have SOOP ASL, together with Google Play, creating this incredible stage — a chance for one’s effort to shine. Soma seized that opportunity.

Many people helped you grow along the way, and your teammates came here to cheer for you as well. Now, as the champion — as a two-time consecutive champion — please say a word to the people you’re thankful for.

Soma: While preparing for this final, first of all, I watched a lot of games from my senior Zerg hyungs. I approached it with the mindset of carrying on their play, and I think that’s why the result was good. So first, I want to say thank you to the Zerg hyungs, to my seniors.

And yesterday, when I came up to Seoul with my wife, she carried all my bags and helped me so much, so I really want to tell her thank you.

Also, thank you so much to our members who stood up and shouted for me.

I’m also grateful to Royal, who practiced with me like it was his own match, whether it was dawn or morning. And even though I called him urgently today, Speed(?) came right away, so I’m thankful to him too. I also want to thank Rush and Light for helping me practice.

Interviewer: So many teammates — and above all, because he had that kind of support from his wife, I believe he was able to become such a great player. Thank you so much. Soma did not grow alone. Through the help of many teammates, friends, and people around him, he stood on this stage, won the championship, and became a great player.

Now, a new world — the Soma dynasty — has been created. There will be countless challengers ahead, and people will be watching to see what Soma shows from here.

Using this moment, please give us a word about your mindset going forward.

Soma: As I said throughout this season, whatever people may say, the players are all sincere. Everyone practices really hard.

And I don’t think I won because I’m overwhelmingly better than the other players. This season, I was just a little more desperate. This season was so hard for me, so of course it would be great if I get good results next season too, but for now, I want to take things a bit more comfortably.

Interviewer: Once again, please give a huge round of applause to Park Sang-hyun, who gave everything he had and, after all that suffering, became the owner of the championship trophy. Thank you once again.
2_2
Profile Joined June 2022
Poland40 Posts
May 24 2026 08:22 GMT
#530
I can't wait for a video of other ASL players commenting on the last game.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
May 24 2026 08:25 GMT
#531
On May 24 2026 17:19 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
I feel like the right play in that last game was to lift the CC and evacuate all the scvs to the natural and keep making marines and clean that mess. Considering Soma commited to pool first and send many drones to harass FlaSh this option could have been valid if FlaSh did it from the get go and didnt try to defend the Main like eh did. But from Terran pov that is not something u actually ever think about doing. ANd you are just in the dark assuming zerg is expanding and getting to a better spot. Also one of the issues for terran on MP is that Sim city at the natural is just terrible in general. Terran early game is always at risk for that reason.


Yeah on hindsight it’s better to have evacuated to natural straight away but very hard to make that decision in a spilt second even for Flash. Anyway Flash’s stubbornness is his own undoing, fairly certain he wins if he plays standard
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8085 Posts
May 24 2026 08:25 GMT
#532
I still can't believe Flash lost like that again.

Win that game and you have nothing to prove ever again and can retire in peace. Losing it is... just sad. That said, if Flash is really done... he's still the GOAT... just... now more debatably. Had he won, it would have been unquestionable for all time.
hda
Profile Joined May 2026
82 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-05-24 08:35:18
May 24 2026 08:34 GMT
#533
On May 24 2026 17:19 Vasoline73 wrote:
Winner's interview... translated by ChatGPT so... it may not be accurate. Take it with a grain of salt. Thank you

Thanks so much. Amazing stuff -- Surprised Chatgpt could make out all the Korean names, translate, then provide their English nicknames like Effort and Royal :D

May I ask if you download/upload the video to Chatgpt? I tried feeding the Soop link directly to Gemini, but it said it couldn't access the proprietary video format

QRCode
Profile Joined December 2024
United States62 Posts
May 24 2026 08:34 GMT
#534
Lol at all the reactions. People are in disbelief. Guys Flash was absolutely cooked last game. Speedlings just finished and Flash lost all his marines trying to clear out the lings in the main. Nothing but SCVs to defend the next ones.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8085 Posts
May 24 2026 08:37 GMT
#535
On May 24 2026 17:34 hda wrote:
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On May 24 2026 17:19 Vasoline73 wrote:
Winner's interview... translated by ChatGPT so... it may not be accurate. Take it with a grain of salt. Thank you

Thanks so much. Amazing stuff -- Surprised Chatgpt could make out all the Korean names, translate, then provide their English nicknames like Effort and Royal :D

May I ask if you download/upload the video to Chatgpt? I tried feeding the Soop link directly to Gemini, but it said it couldn't access the proprietary video format


I use the voice to text to record the audio of the interview, submit that to chatgpt, and then ask it to translate it into English.
The English nicknames I have to find ^^. For the most part it just provides their name in Korean... I use Liquipedia to be reasonably sure of who is being named (but I could definitely make mistakes!)
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9233 Posts
May 24 2026 08:38 GMT
#536
anyways, you can watch the last game here.... with my baby ..

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2246 Posts
May 24 2026 08:40 GMT
#537
On May 24 2026 17:34 QRCode wrote:
Lol at all the reactions. People are in disbelief. Guys Flash was absolutely cooked last game. Speedlings just finished and Flash lost all his marines trying to clear out the lings in the main. Nothing but SCVs to defend the next ones.

Well yes, questioning rather the decision to abandon natural and try go clear main.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8085 Posts
May 24 2026 08:40 GMT
#538
Man even at the end of the game right as Soma runs in with the lings that won the game for him... it's 12 supply for him vs 16 for Flash... there is a part of me that also thinks maybe Flash should have lifted or something .

Soma had like.... 6 drones mining? Maximum. I am counting the zerg units in Flash's base and doing the math.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22559 Posts
May 24 2026 08:41 GMT
#539
On May 24 2026 17:34 QRCode wrote:
Lol at all the reactions. People are in disbelief. Guys Flash was absolutely cooked last game. Speedlings just finished and Flash lost all his marines trying to clear out the lings in the main. Nothing but SCVs to defend the next ones.
I think the idea is that he waits a bit longer before clearing the new lings from the main. Once he loses all his marines its obviously over, but he didn't have to force the clear yet, he could have stayed in his natural.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7021 Posts
May 24 2026 08:41 GMT
#540
On May 24 2026 17:25 Vasoline73 wrote:
I still can't believe Flash lost like that again.

Win that game and you have nothing to prove ever again and can retire in peace. Losing it is... just sad. That said, if Flash is really done... he's still the GOAT... just... now more debatably. Had he won, it would have been unquestionable for all time.

I dont think is debatable at all rofl. Guy hand is in such a shitty state and he still went to game 7 at the Finals. I think overall is a good season for him.
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