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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22473 Posts
May 24 2026 07:41 GMT
#481
people just suck at recognising economic cheese vs aggressive cheese because one kills you in 10 minutes, and the other kills you right now.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7582 Posts
May 24 2026 07:43 GMT
#482
I predicted the maps despite being T favored wouldn't factor in at all.

I don't think a single game this series was decided from map advantage. Just whoever was ready to be more cut throat and ballsy.
QRCode
Profile Joined December 2024
United States62 Posts
May 24 2026 07:44 GMT
#483
On May 24 2026 16:38 ShloobeR wrote:
I'm confused why people are blaming Soma for these aggressive builds when Flash is CCing first every single game


Hahaha. Soma won the mental game. He's really got that dawg in him. It's time to start writing Soma's place amongst the all time greats.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51102 Posts
May 24 2026 07:44 GMT
#484
[image loading]


half way through the series I remembered that I LB'd soma even though I predicted flash.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
May 24 2026 07:44 GMT
#485
On May 24 2026 16:38 Soulforged wrote:
Not sure what's the mine at natural idea. He lost too many scvs, soma had gas and was getting his natural, lifting main would take forever(like, natural hatch would finish by the time that CC made an scv). Losing all those marines on the failed attempt to kill lings left even natural open, although saving them and letting main empty out wouldn't be much better.

It was over when he let the 2nd round of 6-ish lings run by.


Hmm need to watch it again but Flash's nat was already up and he had SCVs mining there, all his depots and barracks were there as well. His nat bunker covers most of the mining area. Soma pulled like 4 to 5 drones and his econ was wrecked. Flash could have built up more marines and cleared the main, it wasn't like a clear cut loss imo.

Seems way too early to gg in an game 7 of a finals.
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1470 Posts
May 24 2026 07:45 GMT
#486
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK, way to ruin my Sunday.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8073 Posts
May 24 2026 07:45 GMT
#487
On May 24 2026 16:41 Gorsameth wrote:
people just suck at recognising economic cheese vs aggressive cheese because one kills you in 10 minutes, and the other kills you right now.

Yeah I don't blame Soma for "cheesing" at all there or in the series. Had to be done.

Also you guys I missed most of Soma's interview which I feel awful about. I translated the last couple of Flash ones with ChatGPT but I can't rewind on SOOP to get Soma's. . I apologize.
SCRVN
Profile Joined June 2024
227 Posts
May 24 2026 07:45 GMT
#488
I hope soma will be breaking records of Soulkey!
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Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines635 Posts
May 24 2026 07:45 GMT
#489
are google play points region locked
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51102 Posts
May 24 2026 07:46 GMT
#490
I do think people will be mad for some time that soma ended flash's competitive career.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51102 Posts
May 24 2026 07:47 GMT
#491
I just hope that this irritates flash enough to do one more run.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3829 Posts
May 24 2026 07:47 GMT
#492
What a series, zerg all-in builds always make for insane finals matches. I was sure Soma was cooked after game two even though he was playing really well.
: o )
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8073 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-05-24 07:48:53
May 24 2026 07:48 GMT
#493
I gotta wonder how great 14CC is on Match Point if you can get scouted that quickly, have your opponent make a pool at 12 instead of a hatch last second... and lose to it. Like what could Flash have done better? Just seems like a bad build on that map

Especially after losing Korean Air the same way, I had hoped he would have learned. It's all good. GGs
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
May 24 2026 07:48 GMT
#494
This series is Flash's own undoing imo, he won the game using bio but just had to keep trying 14cc and mech and trying to out mind-game his opponent. Once it got to game 7 it's never easy holding unrelenting aggression from Soma.
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2041 Posts
May 24 2026 07:48 GMT
#495
flash thought soma would not be the type of player to risk it all on the final game, so confident on that read that he went for cc first.

but soma knew he was thinking this, Flash has done it so many times this tournament but unlike Light, he was willing to call and put it all in on pool first


from a viewer perspective, it sucks cause of the lack of awe-inspiring play.
but from a competitive player perspective, this correct read was not hard - it was pretty damn likely flash would cc first, but to actually call and counter it with an all-in pool first when the stakes are at the highest? that's quality drama in of itself


i can appreciate that, but still would have liked to see a more technically advanced series.

tbh i'm not even sure if flash is capable of it right now (be it his wrists or something else), he advanced in this tournament on the strength of his TvT (which is undeniable) and really the only Z match was a fail mech against JD

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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7009 Posts
May 24 2026 07:48 GMT
#496
Protoss players seeing terran players losing the ASL season with all terran maps vs zerg players and 75% WR
[image loading]


omg cant this maps really get worse for us zerg players.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22473 Posts
May 24 2026 07:48 GMT
#497
On May 24 2026 16:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
[image loading]


half way through the series I remembered that I LB'd soma even though I predicted flash.
I'd like to claim great knowledge for choosing Soma over Flash but it was just gut feeling that Flash would let his ego get the better of him again.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
durachok
Profile Joined December 2020
14 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-05-24 07:54:09
May 24 2026 07:49 GMT
#498
Flash vs Effort Korean Air OSL set 5 on Match Point.


The history repeats itself.
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines739 Posts
May 24 2026 07:50 GMT
#499
FFS stop saying 14cc... with mineral boost its now 13cc
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7582 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-05-24 07:50:45
May 24 2026 07:50 GMT
#500
On May 24 2026 16:48 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Protoss players seeing terran players losing the ASL season with all terran maps vs zerg players and 75% WR
[image loading]


omg cant this maps really get worse for us zerg players.


Don't temp the map makers.

We will get small island maps with no terrain to spore
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