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Poll: Recommend Soma vs hero Game 1?

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50%

Yes (5)
 
28%

No (4)
 
22%

18 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Soma vs hero Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


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48%

No (7)
 
30%

If you have time (5)
 
22%

23 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Soma vs hero Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


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75%

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28 total votes

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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
April 27 2026 07:09 GMT
#2
ZvZ or 💤? lol
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46062 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-27 07:24:01
April 27 2026 07:22 GMT
#3
I think out of the four Ro8 matches, this is the one I'm least excited about. Still hoping for some fun knife's edge ZvZ
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BaiZhuZhu
Profile Joined March 2026
18 Posts
April 27 2026 08:38 GMT
#4
soma is gonna wreeeck him
Sirris17
Profile Joined March 2026
22 Posts
April 27 2026 08:46 GMT
#5
Most people are doubting, but soma is about to show the difference between ro4 mental and championship mental. You will see Soma's level rise. Hero will stay the same
Sirris17
Profile Joined March 2026
22 Posts
April 27 2026 08:47 GMT
#6
On April 27 2026 16:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I think out of the four Ro8 matches, this is the one I'm least excited about. Still hoping for some fun knife's edge ZvZ

thanks for letting us know
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 27 2026 09:02 GMT
#7
Hero is a decent chance. I think Sima isn’t as comfortable in ZvZ given its flippy nature. That said, I picking Soma.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1264 Posts
April 27 2026 09:02 GMT
#8
this one honestly going to be a coinflip. ZvZ Soma's worst of the three matchups, but also Hero's worst of the three.
JDON MY SOUL!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46062 Posts
April 27 2026 09:10 GMT
#9
On April 27 2026 17:46 Sirris17 wrote:
Most people are doubting, but soma is about to show the difference between ro4 mental and championship mental. You will see Soma's level rise. Hero will stay the same


thanks for letting us know
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-27 09:15:02
April 27 2026 09:14 GMT
#10
ZvZ, good to listen in the background while working.
For JD and Flash, I'll take vacations days (:
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5181 Posts
April 27 2026 09:18 GMT
#11
Soma got that killer instinct, I'm predicting an epic ZvZ here.
Taxes are for Terrans
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8907 Posts
April 27 2026 09:34 GMT
#12
please at least one game going hive ! i want to see defilers / devourers and hydras !!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
April 27 2026 09:58 GMT
#13
*I sleep*
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51075 Posts
April 27 2026 10:00 GMT
#14
sub 1 hour broadcast time today.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2140 Posts
April 27 2026 10:12 GMT
#15
On April 27 2026 19:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
sub 1 hour broadcast time today.

Admire your optimism.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
April 27 2026 10:15 GMT
#16
game 3 is on Jane Doe, that has the highest chance of funky BOs so here's hoping for a long macro game
Complete the cycle!
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
April 27 2026 10:20 GMT
#17
quick spire vs late one
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
April 27 2026 10:24 GMT
#18
Soma's superior control is showing
Complete the cycle!
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5181 Posts
April 27 2026 10:25 GMT
#19
Hero is dead here
Taxes are for Terrans
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46062 Posts
April 27 2026 10:28 GMT
#20
Great first game by Soma!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51075 Posts
April 27 2026 10:28 GMT
#21
Poll: Recommend Soma vs hero Game 1?

If you have time (9)
 
50%

Yes (5)
 
28%

No (4)
 
22%

18 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Soma vs hero Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-27 10:38:13
April 27 2026 10:37 GMT
#22
Soma with the exact same build order, HERO forgetting one of his drones not mining on gas for a beat or two tells you all about the mental state of the players

nvm he also got speed early now and a hidden expo
Complete the cycle!
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
April 27 2026 10:38 GMT
#23
Did Hero see that drone going to make the hidden exp?
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
April 27 2026 10:40 GMT
#24
showing a drone as if he'd only take his natural now, giga brain move
Complete the cycle!
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
April 27 2026 10:40 GMT
#25
He fakes going for the nat expand too
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
April 27 2026 10:40 GMT
#26
Honestly HERO should know something is up now, but he's lost map control so there is nothing much he can do about it
Complete the cycle!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46062 Posts
April 27 2026 10:42 GMT
#27
That hidden base, nice.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
April 27 2026 10:44 GMT
#28
Great movement by HERO keeping him in the game and doing a lot of economic damage, but he has sacrificed a lot of army strength to do so, I don't think he can catch up in muta count while Soma remakes drones
Complete the cycle!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46062 Posts
April 27 2026 10:45 GMT
#29
Hero needs to do a better job of keeping his mutas together. He's doing a good job of sniping drones though.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
April 27 2026 10:47 GMT
#30
damn Soma is so good but HERO is playing out of his mind this game as well
Complete the cycle!
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
April 27 2026 10:48 GMT
#31
2nd armor upgrade the game decider it seems?!
Complete the cycle!
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
April 27 2026 10:49 GMT
#32
Hero's control in the air battles hasn't been quite good enough.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46062 Posts
April 27 2026 10:49 GMT
#33
Soma has game two.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10478 Posts
April 27 2026 10:49 GMT
#34
Hero’s micro looks awful today
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22421 Posts
April 27 2026 10:49 GMT
#35
Was that me or did Soma just have almost a whole extra muta stack Oo
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51075 Posts
April 27 2026 10:49 GMT
#36
this one has the signs.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5181 Posts
April 27 2026 10:50 GMT
#37
This is some SvZ type shit.
Taxes are for Terrans
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4664 Posts
April 27 2026 10:50 GMT
#38
62 supply to 22 :/
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51075 Posts
April 27 2026 10:51 GMT
#39
fantasy gg timing at this point actually.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10478 Posts
April 27 2026 10:51 GMT
#40
Staying in this game this long is a little embarrassing…
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22421 Posts
April 27 2026 10:51 GMT
#41
On April 27 2026 19:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
fantasy gg timing at this point actually.
for real, wtf is Hero still doing in this game...

This is going to be a quick 3-0
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51075 Posts
April 27 2026 10:52 GMT
#42
actually fantasy would have gg'd faster, its not even like hero is making a queens nest or anything.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia479 Posts
April 27 2026 10:52 GMT
#43
This is minutes too long.
j.r.r.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51075 Posts
April 27 2026 10:53 GMT
#44
Poll: Recommend Soma vs hero Game 2?

Yes (11)
 
48%

No (7)
 
30%

If you have time (5)
 
22%

23 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Soma vs hero Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 27 2026 10:54 GMT
#45
On April 27 2026 19:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
actually fantasy would have gg'd faster, its not even like hero is making a queens nest or anything.

Tiring out tactics, I imagine.
FBH #1!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6999 Posts
April 27 2026 10:54 GMT
#46
The moment i saw hero with only 1 spore at his Main i knew he will die eventually by that. 3 spores at the natural tho..
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 27 2026 10:55 GMT
#47
Looks a pretty quick night is on the cards.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46062 Posts
April 27 2026 10:58 GMT
#48
Yeah not super exciting so far.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51075 Posts
April 27 2026 10:58 GMT
#49
On April 27 2026 19:12 Simplistik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2026 19:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
sub 1 hour broadcast time today.

Admire your optimism.


the only reason its not is because hero decided to squat for a few mins for no reason.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 27 2026 10:58 GMT
#50
well soma is winning no surprise

see you all tomorrow
Yuru Yuri best anime
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51075 Posts
April 27 2026 10:59 GMT
#51
On April 27 2026 19:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Yeah not super exciting so far.


what did you expect? if this were someone like queen or soulkey vs hero we'd have a shot at some fun hive zvz. With soma I just don't see it happening.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10478 Posts
April 27 2026 11:00 GMT
#52
I really thought hero would come into this with more confidence but he’s playing scared and timid, knees weak arms are heavy moms spaghetti.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
April 27 2026 11:03 GMT
#53
i really dont understand that hatch placement by HERO in g3, makes 0 sense to me
Complete the cycle!
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
April 27 2026 11:05 GMT
#54
ah this is so over, at least put hat in your back natural if you wanna 12 hatch on this map
Complete the cycle!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46062 Posts
April 27 2026 11:06 GMT
#55
That spawning pool O.O
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22421 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-27 11:07:44
April 27 2026 11:06 GMT
#56
well gg

thanks for showing up lol

Mutas vs literally nothing, I wonder how this will go
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10478 Posts
April 27 2026 11:07 GMT
#57
Well this was fast. Hero was truly well and out of ideas.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4664 Posts
April 27 2026 11:08 GMT
#58
GGs quick night
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Kespa1988
Profile Joined January 2022
103 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-27 11:08:58
April 27 2026 11:08 GMT
#59
Wow, Soma is in beast mode. I’m really surprised by the hero’s poor performance.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46062 Posts
April 27 2026 11:08 GMT
#60
Surely the other three Ro8 matches will be more exciting
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10478 Posts
April 27 2026 11:08 GMT
#61
Might legitimately the worst ZvZ performance in a BoX that I’ve ever seen in brood war. I mean this was horrible from hero.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 27 2026 11:08 GMT
#62
jaedong better be ready if ever he fights soma in the finals

soma just dominating tonight.
Yuru Yuri best anime
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
April 27 2026 11:09 GMT
#63
I expected less of a landslide tbh especially after g2 but HERO was well and truly outclassed today
Complete the cycle!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 27 2026 11:09 GMT
#64
Was that even 30mins of game time in the series?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22421 Posts
April 27 2026 11:09 GMT
#65
On April 27 2026 20:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Surely the other three Ro8 matches will be more exciting
I believe in our hero Tulbo!
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51075 Posts
April 27 2026 11:09 GMT
#66
Poll: Recommend Soma vs hero Game 3?

No (21)
 
75%

Yes (7)
 
25%

28 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Soma vs hero Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6999 Posts
April 27 2026 11:09 GMT
#67
Gentlemen. Soma vs Flash Final in the books. About to be a movie.
Sirris17
Profile Joined March 2026
22 Posts
April 27 2026 11:09 GMT
#68
On April 27 2026 18:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2026 17:46 Sirris17 wrote:
Most people are doubting, but soma is about to show the difference between ro4 mental and championship mental. You will see Soma's level rise. Hero will stay the same


thanks for letting us know

You’re welcome
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia479 Posts
April 27 2026 11:09 GMT
#69
It's better for the tournament because Hero would be hopeless Vs flash or light. Hero player terrible. Soma prepared. Hero just played. ZvZ lackluster as usual.
j.r.r.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4408 Posts
April 27 2026 11:10 GMT
#70
God please don't give us a ZvZ finals for JD's most amazing hero's journey! In Leta we trust 🙏
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Sirris17
Profile Joined March 2026
22 Posts
April 27 2026 11:10 GMT
#71
On April 27 2026 20:08 FlaShFTW wrote:
Might legitimately the worst ZvZ performance in a BoX that I’ve ever seen in brood war. I mean this was horrible from hero.

You did a bad job at predicting true 🤤
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4103 Posts
April 27 2026 11:11 GMT
#72
soma is 100% in the finals now
but that bottom side of the bracket is just insane. INSANE.
Drone is a way of living
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 27 2026 11:11 GMT
#73
On April 27 2026 20:10 VioleTAK wrote:
God please don't give us a ZvZ finals for JD's most amazing hero's journey! In Leta we trust 🙏


I actually wanna see this, the JD fan vs JD himself.

Story writes itself
Yuru Yuri best anime
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
291 Posts
April 27 2026 11:11 GMT
#74
man, soma trashed hero so hard or maybe the right way to say this is hero trashed himself
Soft_General_5023
Profile Joined December 2023
138 Posts
April 27 2026 11:12 GMT
#75
hero has time now to play proleague today lol
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10478 Posts
April 27 2026 11:13 GMT
#76
On April 27 2026 20:11 Zografa wrote:
man, soma trashed hero so hard or maybe the right way to say this is hero trashed himself

Hero could’ve just not woken up today and forfeited, and it would’ve been better than whatever this was. 12h to an outside base in direct scouting path for soma is maybe the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen tbh.
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VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-27 11:20:01
April 27 2026 11:19 GMT
#77
Seemed like Hero had an off day, to say the least. That was not a great watch... But hey, that's BW, and ZvZ is as fickle as the wind. Hoping for Leta to bring his A game to Soma after beating Tulgod... And just in case Flash or Light make it to the finals rather than JD, then Soma is approved to beat the hell out of Leta. Leaving it to fate.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4421 Posts
April 27 2026 11:20 GMT
#78
Terrible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
April 27 2026 11:42 GMT
#79
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Maks
Profile Joined December 2010
Ukraine193 Posts
April 27 2026 11:55 GMT
#80
Hero can’t play ZvZ or ZvT at a high level. ZvP isn’t enough to win StarLeague.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3229 Posts
April 27 2026 11:59 GMT
#81
On April 27 2026 20:13 FlaShFTW wrote:
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On April 27 2026 20:11 Zografa wrote:
man, soma trashed hero so hard or maybe the right way to say this is hero trashed himself

Hero could’ve just not woken up today and forfeited, and it would’ve been better than whatever this was. 12h to an outside base in direct scouting path for soma is maybe the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen tbh.

It's not direct scouting path though:

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I guess the idea is to trick Soma into thinking he goes 1 base and that location for a hidden Hatch is least expected and to be fair Soma didn't realize it at the beginning. He lost the game because Soma hid his lings so well, not because of that Hatch. If the Hatch was close, he might mitigate the early damage, but would still lose.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4103 Posts
April 27 2026 12:02 GMT
#82
On April 27 2026 20:55 Maks wrote:
Hero can’t play ZvZ or ZvT at a high level. ZvP isn’t enough to win StarLeague.


ASL4 begs to differ
Drone is a way of living
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2140 Posts
April 27 2026 12:16 GMT
#83
That's a rather long time ago now...
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1727 Posts
April 27 2026 12:17 GMT
#84
Controlled demolition.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Maks
Profile Joined December 2010
Ukraine193 Posts
April 27 2026 12:22 GMT
#85
On April 27 2026 21:02 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2026 20:55 Maks wrote:
Hero can’t play ZvZ or ZvT at a high level. ZvP isn’t enough to win StarLeague.


ASL4 begs to differ

It’s more about the randomness of ZvZ. Right now, his ZvZ win rate is below 50% (30–31). That’s not champion material. His vsT is at 50%, but his ZvP is ~64.5% - way better than the other two matchups.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4103 Posts
April 27 2026 12:26 GMT
#86
On April 27 2026 21:22 Maks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2026 21:02 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
On April 27 2026 20:55 Maks wrote:
Hero can’t play ZvZ or ZvT at a high level. ZvP isn’t enough to win StarLeague.


ASL4 begs to differ

It’s more about the randomness of ZvZ. Right now, his ZvZ win rate is below 50% (30–31). That’s not champion material. His vsT is at 50%, but his ZvP is ~64.5% - way better than the other two matchups.


ok but this is not what you said in your original post. All you said is that he can't play ZvZ at a high level.
you also said that ZvP is not enough to win ASL. Check ASL20 playoffs bracket
Drone is a way of living
Gippy
Profile Joined March 2024
40 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-27 12:34:57
April 27 2026 12:32 GMT
#87
The poor host and commentators tried to pad this out to 2 hours but couldn't. Even with the 20-minute pre-show and the 15-minute breaks between games, this was still under 90 minutes.
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia479 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-27 13:27:53
April 27 2026 12:46 GMT
#88
As would be virtually any other ZvZ ending 3:0. Hero even fantasy gged to make it longer And we had one longer game. Hive is a pipe dream without a patch. Even 3:2 wouldn't be very long. What was the viewership like? Normally, ZvZ is skipped by many.
j.r.r.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4168 Posts
April 27 2026 13:05 GMT
#89
On April 27 2026 20:08 FlaShFTW wrote:
Might legitimately the worst ZvZ performance in a BoX that I’ve ever seen in brood war. I mean this was horrible from hero.

My thoughts exactly after I watched the vod. Have I ever seen a worse Bo5? xD
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
ProbLus
Profile Joined May 2025
5 Posts
April 27 2026 13:17 GMT
#90
On April 27 2026 16:09 a-game wrote:
ZvZ or 💤? lol

The second one
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
April 27 2026 13:54 GMT
#91
well at least it wasn't bo7
boomer hands
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3229 Posts
April 27 2026 14:50 GMT
#92
On April 27 2026 22:05 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2026 20:08 FlaShFTW wrote:
Might legitimately the worst ZvZ performance in a BoX that I’ve ever seen in brood war. I mean this was horrible from hero.

My thoughts exactly after I watched the vod. Have I ever seen a worse Bo5? xD

Mini vs Best many seasons ago was a contender.

Funny that Soma and Mini are quite similar in style (dangerous BoX players, mind game, ruthless, cheesy) while Best and Hero also resemble each other (macro god).
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22421 Posts
April 27 2026 15:00 GMT
#93
On April 27 2026 22:54 seRapH wrote:
well at least it wasn't bo7
Why? You didn't have another 20 minutes of time to watch? (and 10 of those would be commercials)
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8066 Posts
April 27 2026 18:39 GMT
#94
Unfortunately for Hero you can't hydra bust in ZvZ...
dibehr
Profile Joined December 2011
Venezuela6 Posts
April 27 2026 18:56 GMT
#95
Hi im new here, i play Zerg and i hate ZvZ, but i notice something in those games, i think that soma won all games with one key advantage, the gas before pool. He made that in all 3 games its something thats very unusual. That gave him an edge of 15-20 secs of the Spire creation, wich forced hero in all 3 games to make Spores and gave soma the map control and early muta advantage, also the zergling micro was very sharp from soma. Hero went the standard gas after pool all games. Also i think that somas biuld order consufed Hero on those games. I dont think her played bad just that he was average. What do you think?
TonDan04
Profile Joined October 2025
51 Posts
April 27 2026 19:58 GMT
#96
Don't worry guys, Hero has Soma right where he wants him.
jmk12
Profile Joined April 2026
7 Posts
April 27 2026 21:27 GMT
#97
I don't know more about ZvZ than any other casual observer, but to me it sure looked like Hero lost games 1 and 2 because of poor execution, not build orders.
Kraekkling
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
713 Posts
April 28 2026 15:50 GMT
#98
we're about to enter somas bonjwa phase

the one thing which stopped him before his military service was his own nerves

one could feel his aura after he lost the first game to Ssaks BBS during groups and went 4pool in the next game.

since last season, soma finally transformed into a complete player with a proper approach towards boX series

he's gonna crush Flash in the finals on the most Terran favoured map pool of all time. kinda reminds me of he-who-must-not-be-named during his prime when maps were equally fucked up for zergs but he still persisted by pure will
(*^^)(^*)
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4326 Posts
April 28 2026 19:50 GMT
#99
Well...this didnt go as expected. Only watched the first 2 games but terrible play indeed. Poor liquibets.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
525 Posts
April 28 2026 23:55 GMT
#100
On April 27 2026 20:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Poll: Recommend Soma vs hero Game 3?

No (21)
 
75%

Yes (7)
 
25%

28 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Soma vs hero Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


No if you have time option for me? :-(
Stojo
Profile Joined March 2026
1 Post
April 29 2026 12:33 GMT
#101
On the Jane Doe game did HERO’s drone glitch through the medic and marine on the ramp? I’ve never seen that before, but it didn’t get a comment or anything. Is that typical?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22421 Posts
April 29 2026 12:39 GMT
#102
On April 29 2026 21:33 Stojo wrote:
On the Jane Doe game did HERO’s drone glitch through the medic and marine on the ramp? I’ve never seen that before, but it didn’t get a comment or anything. Is that typical?
Without going back to the vod, I assume it was just a worker drill?

Workers (SCV, Probe, Drone) ordered to mine minerals will ignore some collision, allowing them to pass through other units, including enemies.
Its a common tactic when trying to break blocks on a ramp.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
April 29 2026 15:03 GMT
#103
This was super anticlimactic. Hero didnt even put up a good fight.

And tbh Soma is looking pretty ridiculous likely he is gonna win this ASL again
this is a quote
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3142 Posts
April 30 2026 06:32 GMT
#104
Well that was a let down. I hope the rest of hte Ro.8 is a lot better than this.
Artosis loves Starcraft
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
605 Posts
April 30 2026 06:35 GMT
#105
soma has an easy bracket

soma vs flash/snow/jaedong/light will be good finals

unless teolbol wins vs soma :D
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2414 Posts
April 30 2026 08:18 GMT
#106
How are people rating the last game so poorly on the poll?

Hero was going for something interesting, and Soma trumped it with some genius that is the kind of shit you used to see in pimpest plays videos.

Yeah Hero fell over this series, and I wish I had more ASL games to watch just like I imagine we all do here, but I think the games themselves were pretty good and the 3rd one the most exciting.

Hero's gg timing was a bit of a downer though.
The original Bogus fan.
Artas1984
Profile Joined August 2018
149 Posts
April 30 2026 17:25 GMT
#107
You guys are being too brutal to Hero. He would crush your asses in ZvZ like nothing.

I personally enjoyed this ZvZ a lot! Non standard build orders, mind games and errors in muta control is EXACTLY what i am looking in a nice ZvZ. WTF are you talking about "bad games''.. Come on...
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2414 Posts
April 30 2026 22:49 GMT
#108
On May 01 2026 02:25 Artas1984 wrote:
You guys are being too brutal to Hero. He would crush your asses in ZvZ like nothing.

I personally enjoyed this ZvZ a lot! Non standard build orders, mind games and errors in muta control is EXACTLY what i am looking in a nice ZvZ. WTF are you talking about "bad games''.. Come on...

I agree. When I say Hero fell over, I think that's undeniable, but I think a big amount of that was just very very good play from Soma.
The original Bogus fan.
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