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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3489 Posts
April 02 2026 16:38 GMT
#241
Group F for fantastic (except for protoss but well).
Happy for leta and his good ol 2 port wraith. TvP of his life vs Best too
Horang2 fan
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3142 Posts
April 03 2026 02:04 GMT
#242
I was not expecting Leta to advance to the ro16. I thought for sure BeSt would eat him alive.

My Liquibets are in tatters.
Artosis loves Starcraft
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8901 Posts
April 03 2026 03:39 GMT
#243
On April 03 2026 11:04 NoS-Craig wrote:
I was not expecting Leta to advance to the ro16. I thought for sure BeSt would eat him alive.

My Liquibets are in tatters.

mine too
let's wait for the LB update to see the standings...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
April 03 2026 03:46 GMT
#244
I'll be honest I expected Queen and Best to make it even tho I was hoping JD is going to get past them but apparently JD is better than them ATM.

Leta is a big surprise. Kinda just cooked queen and best lmao

What is with these upsets.
this is a quote
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
525 Posts
April 03 2026 05:29 GMT
#245
Glad to see JD advance! Hope he can make it even farther now!
haegN
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway547 Posts
April 03 2026 09:26 GMT
#246
On April 01 2026 21:19 RowdierBob wrote:
This is gonna be worse than ASL5 with Sparkle, Third World and Gladiator in the map pool.

We’re gonna end up with like a Flash, Light, Royal and Sharp ro4.


They really fkd up with these maps. Flash 21 champion as was engineered.
None can give you skills, ubermicro, wins or anything. If you are man - you take it!
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5181 Posts
April 03 2026 10:13 GMT
#247
Calling out map imbalance as a thing pro's can't overcome is an actual F-tier take.
Sure, advantages exist, but if you think strats can't be tailored in a bo5/7 to catch them with their pants down that's on you. Also, having maps skew towards your race has an added psychological debuff in becoming complacant because you assume you're stronger because of the map -- they might not put in enough effort and just play standard and lose because of that.
So... advantage Flash, for sure, but don't count out Bisu/Soma/JD/Rain just yet.
Taxes are for Terrans
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 03 2026 11:27 GMT
#248
On April 03 2026 12:39 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2026 11:04 NoS-Craig wrote:
I was not expecting Leta to advance to the ro16. I thought for sure BeSt would eat him alive.

My Liquibets are in tatters.

mine too
let's wait for the LB update to see the standings...


updated now
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8901 Posts
April 03 2026 11:32 GMT
#249
On April 03 2026 20:27 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2026 12:39 prosatan wrote:
On April 03 2026 11:04 NoS-Craig wrote:
I was not expecting Leta to advance to the ro16. I thought for sure BeSt would eat him alive.

My Liquibets are in tatters.

mine too
let's wait for the LB update to see the standings...


updated now

Thank you BLinD-RawR !!

Meh .... only 6 points... and 72nd place....
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
haegN
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway547 Posts
April 03 2026 12:44 GMT
#250
On April 03 2026 19:13 Uldridge wrote:
Calling out map imbalance as a thing pro's can't overcome is an actual F-tier take.
Sure, advantages exist, but if you think strats can't be tailored in a bo5/7 to catch them with their pants down that's on you. Also, having maps skew towards your race has an added psychological debuff in becoming complacant because you assume you're stronger because of the map -- they might not put in enough effort and just play standard and lose because of that.
So... advantage Flash, for sure, but don't count out Bisu/Soma/JD/Rain just yet.


Fair point I guess, I think maybe it’s a combination of Terrans figuring out a lot of new stuff lately and getting help from maps. I don’t think SOOP could have anticipated that combination, so I was a big too quick to judge. Ro. 16 should be better. Still gutted Rush, Queen and Best is not in it. Leta appeared to be playing a great macro game vs best but it was more the map bring incredibly T favoured in straight up play, so easy to get 4 defendable bases.
None can give you skills, ubermicro, wins or anything. If you are man - you take it!
barcodejester
Profile Joined March 2022
53 Posts
April 03 2026 12:57 GMT
#251
On April 03 2026 19:13 Uldridge wrote:
Calling out map imbalance as a thing pro's can't overcome is an actual F-tier take.
Sure, advantages exist, but if you think strats can't be tailored in a bo5/7 to catch them with their pants down that's on you. Also, having maps skew towards your race has an added psychological debuff in becoming complacant because you assume you're stronger because of the map -- they might not put in enough effort and just play standard and lose because of that.
So... advantage Flash, for sure, but don't count out Bisu/Soma/JD/Rain just yet.


at the higher levels things like maps make an even bigger difference than with lower skilled players.

trying to act like its a disadvantage for terran to play on terran favored maps is a while line of thought.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5181 Posts
April 03 2026 13:32 GMT
#252
I think it can make you overconfident and sloppy in your gameplay as a result, as much as a pro can play sloppy at least.
Secondly, the ingenuity and grit pros have to overcome these issues is inspiring. I wouldn't count anyone out to find tailored solutions to these maps to, at the very least, give them a fighting chance.
For clarity: I still think the maps are very T favored, just laying out the conditions out in the open one also has to consider.
Taxes are for Terrans
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
April 03 2026 21:02 GMT
#253
What a great group!

Queen botched that attack in the final game. He ran seven zerglings in instead of killing the empty bunker, then moved them to a corner attacking nothing while being slowly killed by the wraiths. I feel like he focused too hard on his mutas in the natural and just abandoned the lings. Then threw everything he had a now-loaded bunker and lost everything.

Not looking forward to 500 terrans, but I'm glad Leta is among them for some spice.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
ruhtraeel
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada134 Posts
April 06 2026 17:45 GMT
#254
Fuck why do I keep cheering for Best
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 06 2026 18:16 GMT
#255
On April 07 2026 02:45 ruhtraeel wrote:
Fuck why do I keep cheering for Best

Because he's one of the few who can oppose God and unlike many other pros doesn't have any dirty laundry out
FBH #1!
Whiztard
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States237 Posts
April 10 2026 08:35 GMT
#256
Bro wtf happened in group selectuons for ro16. Group C hellooooo
when Bisu switches to SC2...... (2014 update: sighh)
Sirris17
Profile Joined March 2026
22 Posts
April 10 2026 08:47 GMT
#257
On April 03 2026 12:46 goody153 wrote:
I'll be honest I expected Queen and Best to make it even tho I was hoping JD is going to get past them but apparently JD is better than them ATM.

Leta is a big surprise. Kinda just cooked queen and best lmao

What is with these upsets.

Jaedong has been destroying almost everyone in proleague /spon matches
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1717 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-14 14:17:25
April 14 2026 14:16 GMT
#258
Eh I'm so jaded with any high-stakes ZvP. It will 99% of the time be an all-in, and by definition will be very hard to stop. It's upsetting.

Having said that, it was great fun to see Leta play so well. He's got a great presence as well.

JD too, really pleased to see him do so well in this round.
EleGant[AoV]
Kraekkling
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
713 Posts
April 14 2026 14:52 GMT
#259
On April 03 2026 19:13 Uldridge wrote:
Calling out map imbalance as a thing pro's can't overcome is an actual F-tier take. [...] Also, having maps skew towards your race has an added psychological debuff in becoming complacant because you assume you're stronger because of the map -- they might not put in enough effort and just play standard and lose because of that.


that's such a terrible argument


"well yeah, he does have the fastest car in this car race, but because he knows he is fastest, he will try less hard compared to other people, so it's actually bad to have the fastest car"

"well yeah, he is the only person with the new high tech spear in this spear throwing competition, and the spear can fly 10% further than regular spears, but [...]"
(*^^)(^*)
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5181 Posts
April 14 2026 17:19 GMT
#260
It's not like they're doing it on purpose...
Taxes are for Terrans
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