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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 01 2026 02:53 GMT
#2
Really hard group to predict. Pretty confident Leta won’t make it, but Queen, JD and Best are all very capable of beating one another.

Best hasn't looked great from recent show matches I’ve seen. Gun to my head I think Queen and JD make it out of this one.

Best > Leta
JD > Queen
JD > Best
Queen > Leta
Queen > Best
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8066 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-01 04:07:17
April 01 2026 04:07 GMT
#3
Go JD! Go Leta! Go Best!
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
April 01 2026 04:28 GMT
#4
Finally a group with some non-mirror action
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 04:36 GMT
#5
On April 01 2026 13:28 a-game wrote:
Finally a group with some non-mirror action

second match on the card is a mirror.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46054 Posts
April 01 2026 06:47 GMT
#6
On April 01 2026 13:28 a-game wrote:
Finally a group with some non-mirror action

Yeah! Yesterday's TvTvTvT was okay, but a little repetitive...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46054 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-01 06:57:18
April 01 2026 06:56 GMT
#7
On April 01 2026 13:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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On April 01 2026 13:28 a-game wrote:
Finally a group with some non-mirror action

second match on the card is a mirror.

True, but this is the only Ro24 group that has all 3 races
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 07:27 GMT
#8
blame effort for not signing up
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
SCRVN
Profile Joined June 2024
227 Posts
April 01 2026 07:40 GMT
#9
The last group is also the greatest group in this round. JvJ could do it, Soulkey could do it, Larva could do it. ZerO can do it too, I believe in you for today.
starcraft remasteredvn | Other StarCraft Tournaments
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey791 Posts
April 01 2026 07:54 GMT
#10
Go BeSt!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8901 Posts
April 01 2026 08:04 GMT
#11
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-01 08:31:45
April 01 2026 08:31 GMT
#12
Too much nostalgia in this group. I hope Best and JD advance simply because they could oppose Flash.

Best > Leta
Queen > JD

Best > Queen
JD > Leta
JD > Queen
FBH #1!
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1312 Posts
April 01 2026 09:52 GMT
#13
If you announced this line-up in an OSL around 2009, that would be believable
sup
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5181 Posts
April 01 2026 09:57 GMT
#14
I'm ready for this. LET'S GO JD!
Taxes are for Terrans
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46054 Posts
April 01 2026 10:02 GMT
#15
I'd love to see both Jaedong and BeSt win today
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 10:13 GMT
#16
haha everyone's having fun today.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
April 01 2026 10:13 GMT
#17
Good thing they force the players to do dumb interviews instead of letting them warm up and prepare for some of the most important matches of the year lol
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-01 10:17:25
April 01 2026 10:16 GMT
#18
Just tuning in, for a split second I thought Leta had dressed up as a girl for April Fools.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:21 GMT
#19
Love to see the Starport responds, but I'm still worried the diagonal spawns are going to make this piss easy for Best.
Mines out, Dropship closing in...
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:22 GMT
#20
NICE. All goons were at the nat and he picks up all 4 vultures again before losing any.
FBH #1!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46054 Posts
April 01 2026 10:23 GMT
#21
Nice composure and defense by BeSt against the early two-pronged vulture drop / small frontal attack. Only lost a few probes.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:24 GMT
#22
Kinda bad 2nd drop. Looks like Best will just play his standard macro PvT from here. Maybe Leta has a small timing window? Doesn't seem like it. He's just donating Vultures now.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:26 GMT
#23
4th Nex almost complete. Leta just started his 3rd.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:27 GMT
#24
Leta's 2 wraiths are paying off. 2 shuttles aiming for the main flew right over 3 mines.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:30 GMT
#25
Best just added a ton of Gateways. Vulture vs Probe trades still going on. Leta has a Vessel out and +1 on his mech. Maybe he can hit 2/1 before Best first brute force 200/200.
FBH #1!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 01 2026 10:30 GMT
#26
Leta playing really well here.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:31 GMT
#27
Leta really commiting on Vulture raids now. Getting lots of Probe kills.
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-01 10:31:52
April 01 2026 10:31 GMT
#28
is BeSt going to just let leta try and hit a 2/1 timing?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:31 GMT
#29
2/1 finished, both players near max now.
FBH #1!
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
April 01 2026 10:32 GMT
#30
Good use of the wraiths and d-matrix to mitigate Best's drop plays
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:32 GMT
#31
Leta should just go for a 3/2 timing from here imo.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:32 GMT
#32
Fat storm on a whole clump of tanks, but none die.
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 10:33 GMT
#33
a lot of tanks in red but none dead
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:33 GMT
#34
Leta reparing those hurt tanks, meanwhile Best is still playing gateway-expansion-man.
FBH #1!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 01 2026 10:33 GMT
#35
It very easy for Terran to creep on these maps. Expos quite easy to defend.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
April 01 2026 10:34 GMT
#36
Best is fumbling a bit here
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 01 2026 10:35 GMT
#37
Leta might win this :O
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:35 GMT
#38
Best doing another 2 shuttle drop, this time to storm scvs, but it's slowly executed and scvs escape unharmed. Meanwhile that triggers Leta to start pushing fresh expos of Best.
FBH #1!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 01 2026 10:36 GMT
#39
Leta is ahead. Just a matter as to if he can close.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:36 GMT
#40
Successful push killing 2 expos. Best is behind on upgrades, doesn't have a rich eco anymore and still on gateway shuttle tech
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 10:38 GMT
#41
really good storms
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 01 2026 10:39 GMT
#42
Best kinda dead here. Too many tanks.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
April 01 2026 10:39 GMT
#43
Decent fight but Best is too far behind now. If he killed those 8 tanks earlier instead of just wounding them it might have gone differently.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-01 10:39:47
April 01 2026 10:39 GMT
#44
best still boned
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:40 GMT
#45
No middle expo on this map makes it a bit harder for Leta to push via middle. He does anyway and catches a probe train, then they fight and trade in the middle. Back and forth trading there. Leta attacks 12 o'clock expo beautiful unit composition there.
FBH #1!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 01 2026 10:40 GMT
#46
These maps are super tough for non Terrans. Once they establish a good position it’s so hard to attack as Z or P.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:40 GMT
#47
Best can't stop Leta's crucial new expo, Leta even hits a big EMP there.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:41 GMT
#48
It's 180 vs 110 now, but Leta has no idea that Best isn't maxed. He also cannot afford to lose his newest expo. He is running out of steam soon.
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 10:41 GMT
#49
those emps
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:42 GMT
#50
Scans are giving confidence to get aggressive again
FBH #1!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-01 10:42:30
April 01 2026 10:42 GMT
#51
Leta can a-move and win here.

Flash gonna romp home this ASL if Leta is taking games off Best.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 10:43 GMT
#52
Poll: Recommend BeSt vs Leta?

Yes (28)
 
97%

No (1)
 
3%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

29 total votes

Your vote: Recommend BeSt vs Leta?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
April 01 2026 10:43 GMT
#53
Bad game from Best. He just got outplayed and really bad control losing bunch of the units to pathing and so many useless shuttle drops
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3433 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-01 10:44:42
April 01 2026 10:44 GMT
#54
Awesome game by Leta, but poor decision making by Best.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:44 GMT
#55
Best still economically starved and can't do anything. He taps out.

Damn, what a game by Leta. That map and spawns seems very scary vs Best.
FBH #1!
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
April 01 2026 10:44 GMT
#56
Pretty garbage play from best
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6998 Posts
April 01 2026 10:44 GMT
#57
Is this map on steroids for terran or Best underperformance ? Or just Leta is godlike in TvP today lol
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 01 2026 10:45 GMT
#58
Really well played from Leta.

Protosses need to adapt a new meta for these maps. The expos are really snug and are much easier to defend for Terrans. And it makes it much easier to also pick off the speed shuttles for goliaths. Not sure what the answer is but the gateway man has been nerfed a lot.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3433 Posts
April 01 2026 10:45 GMT
#59
On April 01 2026 19:45 RowdierBob wrote:
Really well played from Leta.

Protosses need to adapt a new meta for these maps. The expos are really snug and are much easier to defend for Terrans. And it makes it much easier to also pick off the speed shuttles for goliaths. Not sure what the answer is but the gateway man has been nerfed a lot.


Carriers.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 01 2026 10:46 GMT
#60
On April 01 2026 19:44 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Is this map on steroids for terran or Best underperformance ? Or just Leta is godlike in TvP today lol

Leta played really well but the maps are not very good for the gateway man style imo.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:46 GMT
#61
On April 01 2026 19:43 SkelA wrote:
Bad game from Best. He just got outplayed and really bad control losing bunch of the units to pathing and so many useless shuttle drops

Lol. It's not like Best handed a win to Leta though. Leta made that happen.
FBH #1!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 01 2026 10:48 GMT
#62
On April 01 2026 19:45 True_Spike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2026 19:45 RowdierBob wrote:
Really well played from Leta.

Protosses need to adapt a new meta for these maps. The expos are really snug and are much easier to defend for Terrans. And it makes it much easier to also pick off the speed shuttles for goliaths. Not sure what the answer is but the gateway man has been nerfed a lot.


Carriers.

Might be the only way. Getting critical mass is the tough part though.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:50 GMT
#63
A PvT monster like Best shouldn't lose to Leta on that map getting diagonal spawns, regardless if it's actually T favored or not. Goliath/Wraith/Vessel usage by Leta was master class level.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:51 GMT
#64
If this is Leta's form today, I'm really pumped to see Leta vs Z.
FBH #1!
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8098 Posts
April 01 2026 10:51 GMT
#65
Letaaaaaaaaa!!!

I used to be a huge fan back in the day but i got heartbroken by how tvp so many times. That was awesome.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3228 Posts
April 01 2026 10:51 GMT
#66
On April 01 2026 19:46 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2026 19:44 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Is this map on steroids for terran or Best underperformance ? Or just Leta is godlike in TvP today lol

Leta played really well but the maps are not very good for the gateway man style imo.

That is correct.

Quite baffling to me that Leta can have a super late CC, throw away that many vultures, and not fall behind too much. His 3rd base is not even late. And by the time he gets it up, the map will take care of the rest.

What Best should have done is just camp Dragoons on his base to minimize probe damage and go for Carriers asap. The 3 6 9 12 bases on this map are almost invincible for Terran. You have to go through 2 narrow chokes to just enter the base ffs. I remember Rain got a huge lead vs Mong on this map in the qualifier, but he never attacked those bases, just storm drop after storm drop while transitioning to Carriers.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3393 Posts
April 01 2026 10:54 GMT
#67
I tuned into the Best/Leta match and was a bit shocked to see Best down 50 supply. I thought Best would wipe the floor with Leta lol. It seems from this thread that Leta made early drops and did a very good job defending Best's counterdrops. I'm definitely going to have to watch the game from the beginning.
김택용 Fighting!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 10:54 GMT
#68
Can JD's new mouse make the difference and show us the infamous JvZ once again?
FBH #1!
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
April 01 2026 10:55 GMT
#69
On April 01 2026 19:46 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2026 19:43 SkelA wrote:
Bad game from Best. He just got outplayed and really bad control losing bunch of the units to pathing and so many useless shuttle drops

Lol. It's not like Best handed a win to Leta though. Leta made that happen.


He kinda did. I'm not saying leta didn't play good but cmon how many units he lost to move command right into his army and so many shuttles lost to good counter play with wraith/Goliath control.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 10:57 GMT
#70
is jaedong using his superstrike?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
April 01 2026 11:02 GMT
#71
That special muta display isn't that helpful without showing the scourge also. Especially when it covers up the fight.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:02 GMT
#72
Looking like a very equal 48/50 vs 48/50 ZvZ with JD having 100~150 gas advantage and Zero having a sunken.
Mutas fight and we down to 39/50 vs 39/50 again.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:03 GMT
#73
JD with some superior muta micro pulling ahead now.
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:03 GMT
#74
only jaedong could come back in muta control and count.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 11:04 GMT
#75
JvZ is back
Yuru Yuri best anime
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:04 GMT
#76
Poll: Recommend Jaedong vs Queen?

Yes (23)
 
88%

If you have time (3)
 
12%

No (0)
 
0%

26 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Jaedong vs Queen?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:04 GMT
#77
Zero with the classic head tilt sinking into his shoulders.
FBH #1!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 01 2026 11:04 GMT
#78
JD looks like sunlight hasn’t touched his skin in months. Which can only mean he’s going balls deep this tourney.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:05 GMT
#79
On April 01 2026 19:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
is jaedong using his superstrike?

I imagine so.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:05 GMT
#80
On April 01 2026 20:04 RowdierBob wrote:
JD looks like sunlight hasn’t touched his skin in months. Which can only mean he’s going balls deep this tourney.

lmao
FBH #1!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 01 2026 11:05 GMT
#81
Poor Best is screwed. He ain’t beating Queen in the losers match.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5181 Posts
April 01 2026 11:05 GMT
#82
JvZ LET'S GO
Taxes are for Terrans
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:06 GMT
#83
Leta vs JD gonna be juicy!
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:06 GMT
#84
I really should buy jaedong's mouse
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
April 01 2026 11:06 GMT
#85
catching the 4 wounded mutas in the middle when they tried to intercept Jaedong's lings that were pulling back was crucial in turning this game around after losing the initial engagement, masterful micro display afterwards by JD though, we are soo back
Complete the cycle!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:06 GMT
#86
On April 01 2026 20:05 RowdierBob wrote:
Poor Best is screwed. He ain’t beating Queen in the losers match.


I wouldn't count him out just yet.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:07 GMT
#87
IF we get a Leta vs Best rematch, for sure Best won't let himself be played like game 1 again.
FBH #1!
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8098 Posts
April 01 2026 11:07 GMT
#88
I have zero idea how JD won that.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6998 Posts
April 01 2026 11:07 GMT
#89
Wtf happened in that game ? it was over when Jaedong failed in the big fight lol.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5181 Posts
April 01 2026 11:08 GMT
#90
Queen didn't pursue the 4, but either second guess himself or lost sight of them or whatever. That's what turned it I think.
Taxes are for Terrans
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3433 Posts
April 01 2026 11:09 GMT
#91
Yeah, he lost sight of them and went the wrong way. Then tried to intercept lings and got caught with his pants down.
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
291 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-01 11:12:48
April 01 2026 11:12 GMT
#92
during the zvz i felt me and the casters were watching a different game lol...
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:15 GMT
#93
Anyone drinking? Take a sip every time you hear "laysu".
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:17 GMT
#94
JD kills the natural marine and gets down his 12 hatch as soon as he hits 300. Meanwhile Leta already building a gas.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:17 GMT
#95
Drone scouts the gas and Factory timing
FBH #1!
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 11:19 GMT
#96
JD with the defense
Yuru Yuri best anime
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
April 01 2026 11:19 GMT
#97
Good defense
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:19 GMT
#98
First rine/scv/vulture beautifully defended by JD. Leta really wanted another drone kill there.
FBH #1!
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 11:19 GMT
#99
2 port wraith

scan must be ultra happy
Yuru Yuri best anime
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:20 GMT
#100
*takes sip of tea* only cuz it's too early for alcohol.
FBH #1!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46054 Posts
April 01 2026 11:20 GMT
#101
Let's go Jaedong!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 11:20 GMT
#102
those wraiths are gonna be the scourge of jaedong's overlords
Yuru Yuri best anime
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 11:21 GMT
#103
where is that overlord speed
Yuru Yuri best anime
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:21 GMT
#104
5hp wraith... Damn!
FBH #1!
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
April 01 2026 11:22 GMT
#105
Unusual TvZ build but it's working pretty well so far. People were saying Leta was known as a 2 port wraith spammer and I guess they weren't kidding.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:22 GMT
#106
Feels like 2009~2010 again.
FBH #1!
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 11:23 GMT
#107
no valks? i guess leta is confident with his two port wraiths
Yuru Yuri best anime
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-01 11:25:46
April 01 2026 11:25 GMT
#108
Scvs are sleeping all over the place. Leta must be very focused on his wraiths and mm production
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:26 GMT
#109
jaedong in real trouble here
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 11:27 GMT
#110
leta getting a bit too cocky with those wraiths
Yuru Yuri best anime
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
April 01 2026 11:27 GMT
#111
Plague could be devastating here
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46054 Posts
April 01 2026 11:28 GMT
#112
Those wraiths have been really annoying!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:28 GMT
#113
On April 01 2026 20:27 gravity wrote:
Plague could be devastating here


research probably still on the way.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 11:28 GMT
#114
tanks are out at least, but so are defilers
Yuru Yuri best anime
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46054 Posts
April 01 2026 11:29 GMT
#115
At least defilers are out now...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:29 GMT
#116
1 good plague and its gonna be game ending.
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:29 GMT
#117
oh yay plague finally done now
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 11:29 GMT
#118
On April 01 2026 20:27 gravity wrote:
Plague could be devastating here


yup, and leta got decimated
Yuru Yuri best anime
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
April 01 2026 11:29 GMT
#119
On April 01 2026 20:27 gravity wrote:
Plague could be devastating here

yep
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 11:31 GMT
#120
time for drops
Yuru Yuri best anime
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:31 GMT
#121
this drop could do some real damage
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5181 Posts
April 01 2026 11:31 GMT
#122
WHAT A PLAGUE!
Taxes are for Terrans
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
April 01 2026 11:32 GMT
#123
Cute firebat drop but there weren't enough drones there to really matter
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 11:33 GMT
#124
JD: I lose my 4th? you lose your 4th
Yuru Yuri best anime
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:33 GMT
#125
Nice tank count, but no upgrades on them
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:33 GMT
#126
Jaedong is not scared of vessels and leta isn't really using them the best
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46054 Posts
April 01 2026 11:34 GMT
#127
Hydra + dark swarm consistently cleaning up those tanks
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4904 Posts
April 01 2026 11:34 GMT
#128
lol at Jaedong plaguing his own hydras but damn what a game otherwise by him, insane control again
Complete the cycle!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:34 GMT
#129
Tank count reset. Looking bad for Leta now.
FBH #1!
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
291 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-01 11:36:02
April 01 2026 11:35 GMT
#130
casters like 3 times "JD is very good at chaotic games" -> we get a chaotic game -> JD starts falling apart

really guys keep trying
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
April 01 2026 11:35 GMT
#131
Leta is more even on supply now but the lack of map control may result in getting starved out
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46054 Posts
April 01 2026 11:35 GMT
#132
On April 01 2026 20:35 Zografa wrote:
casters like 3 times "JD is very good at chaotic games" -> we get a chaotic game -> JD falls apart

really guys keep trying

Jaedong is doing fine this game o.O

It's not over, obviously, but still.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46054 Posts
April 01 2026 11:37 GMT
#133
Jaedong has finally caught up in supply / finally brought down Leta's to match his own.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 11:37 GMT
#134
JD should win soon

leta pretty much stuck in his base
Yuru Yuri best anime
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
291 Posts
April 01 2026 11:37 GMT
#135
On April 01 2026 20:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2026 20:35 Zografa wrote:
casters like 3 times "JD is very good at chaotic games" -> we get a chaotic game -> JD falls apart

really guys keep trying

Jaedong is doing fine this game o.O

It's not over, obviously, but still.


point is - if you have any idea its quite the opposite as of lately - JD does not do well in chaotic games
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:38 GMT
#136
yeah leta is super boned
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46054 Posts
April 01 2026 11:39 GMT
#137
On April 01 2026 20:37 Zografa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2026 20:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 01 2026 20:35 Zografa wrote:
casters like 3 times "JD is very good at chaotic games" -> we get a chaotic game -> JD falls apart

really guys keep trying

Jaedong is doing fine this game o.O

It's not over, obviously, but still.


point is - if you have any idea its quite the opposite as of lately - JD does not do well in chaotic games

Okay... well... congrats to Jaedong for winning this game and placing first in his group
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:39 GMT
#138
leta resorting to distance mining. its so over. you've been superstruck.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:39 GMT
#139
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game?

Yes (27)
 
93%

If you have time (2)
 
7%

No (0)
 
0%

29 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 11:39 GMT
#140
Tyrant is back bois
Yuru Yuri best anime
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22415 Posts
April 01 2026 11:40 GMT
#141
its just so hard to fight through Dark swarm + plague for Terran
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1312 Posts
April 01 2026 11:40 GMT
#142
Wheres the rainbow sheep
sup
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:40 GMT
#143
Loved the Wraiths, not the not unsieging and not protecting his tanks better when he didn't have +1 yet.
FBH #1!
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-01 11:41:28
April 01 2026 11:40 GMT
#144
Good game, reminded me a bit of Flash vs Speed the other day where it was hard to maintain the contain against defender's advantage but ultimately the contained player got starved.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:41 GMT
#145
buddy I'm not feeling that haircut.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
April 01 2026 11:41 GMT
#146
Strange game, those wraiths looked imba af at first

Nice comeback by jd
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6998 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-01 11:42:50
April 01 2026 11:42 GMT
#147
Tbf Leta played better than what i expected. Jaedong also played pretty conversative that is a nice change to see he adapted a bit his playstyle compared to endless agression.

If JD keeps the momemtum i can see him easily reaching ASL semis.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46054 Posts
April 01 2026 11:42 GMT
#148
I don't see BeSt winning the next two games
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-01 11:43:02
April 01 2026 11:42 GMT
#149
fine enjoy the sheep
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
291 Posts
April 01 2026 11:43 GMT
#150
the sheep!
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
April 01 2026 11:44 GMT
#151
How did this bouncing rainbow sheep come to be associated with JD anyway? I don't remember.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:44 GMT
#152
On April 01 2026 20:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I don't see BeSt winning the next two games

Queen just lost with a head tilt and Leta lost doing his fav build. Best can get 2 wins no problem.
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:44 GMT
#153
On April 01 2026 20:40 Gorsameth wrote:
its just so hard to fight through Dark swarm + plague for Terran


don't think leta used his vessels all that well.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46054 Posts
April 01 2026 11:44 GMT
#154
The rainbow sheep are back!!!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 01 2026 11:44 GMT
#155
[image loading]
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:45 GMT
#156
On April 01 2026 20:44 gravity wrote:
How did this bouncing rainbow sheep come to be associated with JD anyway? I don't remember.

That dance video/commercial he did? That and homo for Lomo probably.
FBH #1!
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22415 Posts
April 01 2026 11:46 GMT
#157
On April 01 2026 20:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2026 20:40 Gorsameth wrote:
its just so hard to fight through Dark swarm + plague for Terran


don't think leta used his vessels all that well.
Oh he certainly didn't, but the pressure is really on the terran to optimally use and importantly protect his vessels or they just get rolled over.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4103 Posts
April 01 2026 11:47 GMT
#158
Fantastic game from both, Leta gave it a really good shot but JD's late game is just too stronk
Probably game of the Ro24 for me
Drone is a way of living
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:48 GMT
#159
Is prosatan still breathing or did he pass out?
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:52 GMT
#160
nobody asked for the spinning tank when flash won.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:52 GMT
#161
That Hatch placement. Really?
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:52 GMT
#162
what the fuck is this bumshit kim myung woon.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 01 2026 11:53 GMT
#163
This is gonna be be some grim all in. Ling or hydra?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:53 GMT
#164
can't believe BeSt is going to die like this.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 01 2026 11:55 GMT
#165
On April 01 2026 20:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:
can't believe BeSt is going to die like this.

It’s a smart build from Zero. But holy shit, best. Scout.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46054 Posts
April 01 2026 11:55 GMT
#166
BeSt looks fuuuuucked
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5181 Posts
April 01 2026 11:55 GMT
#167
WOAH what's this spicy proxy
Taxes are for Terrans
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 11:55 GMT
#168
damn get ling rushed
Yuru Yuri best anime
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22415 Posts
April 01 2026 11:55 GMT
#169
proxy hatch zergling all in, what the actual F
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46054 Posts
April 01 2026 11:56 GMT
#170
Cheesy all-ins can definitely pay off. Well done, Queen.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:56 GMT
#171
Lmao Best fell for it.
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:56 GMT
#172
Poll: Recommend Losers' Game?

Omelette du fromage (27)
 
100%

27 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Game?

(Vote): Omelette du fromage

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
April 01 2026 11:56 GMT
#173
RIP. At least I won't be staying up too late.
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 11:56 GMT
#174
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ zerg rush
Yuru Yuri best anime
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46054 Posts
April 01 2026 11:56 GMT
#175
On April 01 2026 20:56 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Poll: Recommend Losers' Game?

Omelette du fromage (27)
 
100%

27 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Game?

(Vote): Omelette du fromage


Nice.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-01 11:57:22
April 01 2026 11:57 GMT
#176
Zero knew exactly what Best was gonna do and hard countered. Crazy how often even top pros like this lose due to lazy scouting. We’ve all been there.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:57 GMT
#177
Poll: Recommend Losers' Game?

No (11)
 
42%

Yes (8)
 
31%

If you have time (7)
 
27%

26 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 11:57 GMT
#178
Will we see another 2 port next?
FBH #1!
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4103 Posts
April 01 2026 11:57 GMT
#179
On April 01 2026 20:56 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Poll: Recommend Losers' Game?

Omelette du fromage (27)
 
100%

27 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Game?

(Vote): Omelette du fromage



damn that floored me. Funniest shit i've read on TL in years
Drone is a way of living
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46054 Posts
April 01 2026 11:58 GMT
#180
When the break is longer than the game >.>
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
April 01 2026 11:58 GMT
#181
Kinda want Leta to win the final after his earlier performances but Queen would make for better race balance in the ro16.
BulgarianToss
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria492 Posts
April 01 2026 11:59 GMT
#182
Disgraceful, shame for the Zerg race!
music is the best thing in the world
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5181 Posts
April 01 2026 11:59 GMT
#183
On April 01 2026 20:57 RowdierBob wrote:
Zero knew exactly what Best was gonna do and hard countered. Crazy how often even top pros like this lose due to lazy scouting. We’ve all been there.

How the fuck are you scouting that?
Taxes are for Terrans
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 11:59 GMT
#184
best really got punked out of the ASL.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
April 01 2026 11:59 GMT
#185
Best was playing better than this in random tournaments 2 months ago, he doesn't seem to care about ASL much
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46054 Posts
April 01 2026 12:00 GMT
#186
On April 01 2026 20:59 Uldridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2026 20:57 RowdierBob wrote:
Zero knew exactly what Best was gonna do and hard countered. Crazy how often even top pros like this lose due to lazy scouting. We’ve all been there.

How the fuck are you scouting that?

Especially with that... unique... hatchery placement.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1263 Posts
April 01 2026 12:01 GMT
#187
On April 01 2026 20:59 a-game wrote:
Best was playing better than this in random tournaments 2 months ago, he doesn't seem to care about ASL much

he cares, he just drew the short end of the stick. it happens.
JDON MY SOUL!
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22415 Posts
April 01 2026 12:01 GMT
#188
Queen did a very good job keeping the probe out of his natural, I wouldn't blame that on Best not scouting a completely random proxy hatch in the middle of nowhere
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 12:01 GMT
#189
On April 01 2026 21:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2026 20:59 Uldridge wrote:
On April 01 2026 20:57 RowdierBob wrote:
Zero knew exactly what Best was gonna do and hard countered. Crazy how often even top pros like this lose due to lazy scouting. We’ve all been there.

How the fuck are you scouting that?

Especially with that... unique... hatchery placement.


its a Bo1 L, you gotta just take it, happens to the best of them.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 12:02 GMT
#190
guess you won't have to see the return of centaur best, hopefully next season.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8098 Posts
April 01 2026 12:02 GMT
#191
It’s not looking great for Protoss this season really. Poor Best.

World be ironic if Leta went down by taking out BeSt in a macro game and then losing two tvz, his monster matchup.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6998 Posts
April 01 2026 12:04 GMT
#192
funny enough i saw Soma trying this vs Bisu yesterday and it failed pretty bad. Best wasnt looking i guess.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3228 Posts
April 01 2026 12:05 GMT
#193
It's a one off build for a Bo1 game. Nothing more to analyse.

From a Protoss point of view there's no indication of a proxy Hatch on the map to scout for, just because the drone is blocking the ramp on a map like this. Players may check for it next time, but not because the information in the game tells them to do so. It's just because they've seen this game.
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 12:06 GMT
#194
ok do we get some high quality cheese or is this gonna be standard
Yuru Yuri best anime
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 12:09 GMT
#195
It was a cheesy build by Zero, but not just a random dumb cheese. It was an anti-cheese into cheese build backed with proper scout denying.
FBH #1!
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 12:11 GMT
#196
again with the two port wraiths
Yuru Yuri best anime
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 12:14 GMT
#197
how to beat two port wraith:

just swarm them with ling muta lmao
Yuru Yuri best anime
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 12:14 GMT
#198
wait lmao clutch cloak
Yuru Yuri best anime
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22415 Posts
April 01 2026 12:14 GMT
#199
On April 01 2026 21:11 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote:
again with the two port wraiths
Well it worked this time :D
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 01 2026 12:15 GMT
#200
Poll: Recommend Final Game?

Yes (15)
 
75%

If you have time (3)
 
15%

No (2)
 
10%

20 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
April 01 2026 12:15 GMT
#201
I was gonna say that the wraith build seems less effective this time but then they killed everything ;;
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 01 2026 12:15 GMT
#202
Zero with the disrespect. Hahahahahaha. Wow. What a result today.
FBH #1!
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1263 Posts
April 01 2026 12:15 GMT
#203
Season of maximum upsets!
JDON MY SOUL!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46054 Posts
April 01 2026 12:15 GMT
#204
Hahaha Queen. Congrats Leta!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
April 01 2026 12:16 GMT
#205
Will be interesting to see how Leta holds up in the next round, he's certainly different.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6998 Posts
April 01 2026 12:16 GMT
#206
This is for sure a weird ASL season having Leta Piano sSak in the next round lol.
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
April 01 2026 12:17 GMT
#207
thats another ASL champ out of the tournament

srsly this ASL looks great now we're seeing some new faces in ro16
Yuru Yuri best anime
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8098 Posts
April 01 2026 12:18 GMT
#208
Letaaaaaaaa!
That was an amazing group. Such fantastic games.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
291 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-01 12:19:32
April 01 2026 12:19 GMT
#209
9 terrans 4 protoss 3 zerg in ro16

big lol
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
April 01 2026 12:19 GMT
#210
Sloppy games today, anyways gg on to the ro16
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6998 Posts
April 01 2026 12:19 GMT
#211
that makes it for 3 zerg players. 4 protoss players and 9 terran players ?
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 01 2026 12:19 GMT
#212
This is gonna be worse than ASL5 with Sparkle, Third World and Gladiator in the map pool.

We’re gonna end up with like a Flash, Light, Royal and Sharp ro4.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4103 Posts
April 01 2026 12:20 GMT
#213
season of upsets! Love it!
Drone is a way of living
doktordingerdonger
Profile Joined October 2025
117 Posts
April 01 2026 12:21 GMT
#214
On April 01 2026 21:19 Zografa wrote:
9 terrans 4 protoss 3 zerg in ro16

big lol


And the terrans in this forum told me that RO24 would just kick out most terrans anyway....

Only in ONE group did another race take a spot away from a terran (Rain)
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-01 12:23:12
April 01 2026 12:22 GMT
#215
Imagine being so good at one build that over 15 years later it still makes you advance into the Ro16 even when your opponent knows you will do it.
FBH #1!
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8098 Posts
April 01 2026 12:24 GMT
#216
Terran was really struggling in the last seasons. Feel they really have overcorrected.

Now, there is no way on earth people like Leta and Piano advance to the Ro8 imo.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6998 Posts
April 01 2026 12:24 GMT
#217
I think what people didnt realize with ASL qualifiers is that the maps used were the one from the last Season. So all those terrans that qualified didnt even fully used the full power of the mappool xD. This season maps are the most heavy terran maps ever in ASL. I havent been following SNow recently so i cant really tell if even for him is hard to play these maps or it actually benefits him having all these terrans.
SCRVN
Profile Joined June 2024
227 Posts
April 01 2026 12:27 GMT
#218
On April 01 2026 21:22 Peeano wrote:
Imagine being so good at one build that over 15 years later it still makes you advance into the Ro16 even when your opponent knows you will do it.

[image loading]

Imagining JD will win this season lmao
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8098 Posts
April 01 2026 12:27 GMT
#219
On April 01 2026 21:22 Peeano wrote:
Imagine being so good at one build that over 15 years later it still makes you advance into the Ro16 even when your opponent knows you will do it.

Always felt that made Leta a bit of an immobile target, but he probably also has more experience playing it than anyone else.

Reminds me of opening specialists in chess that are predictable, but know their stuff so well it’s extremely hard to take advantage of them. Svidler with the Grunfeld or MVL with the Najdorf for those who know that universe.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
April 01 2026 12:33 GMT
#220
If nothing else, we should get a gauge on how truly great Snow is at PvT this season. Bit like Savior in Shinhan s3 where they made a map pool designed to nerf him and he still won.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8901 Posts
April 01 2026 13:49 GMT
#221
On April 01 2026 20:48 Peeano wrote:
Is prosatan still breathing or did he pass out?

i am here haha i was so busy today god damn !!!!!!! but now i am happy

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8901 Posts
April 01 2026 13:55 GMT
#222
You can rewatch all games on Flash youtube channel

https://www.youtube.com/@FlaSh-bc2bt

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1263 Posts
April 01 2026 14:06 GMT
#223
On April 01 2026 21:21 doktordingerdonger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2026 21:19 Zografa wrote:
9 terrans 4 protoss 3 zerg in ro16

big lol


And the terrans in this forum told me that RO24 would just kick out most terrans anyway....

Only in ONE group did another race take a spot away from a terran (Rain)

nah we had a group where two terrans were brutally eliminated!
JDON MY SOUL!
Postalpj
Profile Joined March 2026
13 Posts
April 01 2026 14:14 GMT
#224
On April 01 2026 19:51 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Letaaaaaaaaa!!!

I used to be a huge fan back in the day but i got heartbroken by how tvp so many times. That was awesome.


This map pool is so Terran favored this season is trash
Postalpj
Profile Joined March 2026
13 Posts
April 01 2026 14:25 GMT
#225
On April 01 2026 20:40 Gorsameth wrote:
its just so hard to fight through Dark swarm + plague for Terran


The real problem is consume. Infinite spells is something no one else can come close to
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4103 Posts
April 01 2026 14:37 GMT
#226
On April 01 2026 23:25 Postalpj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2026 20:40 Gorsameth wrote:
its just so hard to fight through Dark swarm + plague for Terran


The real problem is consume. Infinite spells is something no one else can come close to


indeed
i think better design would be for consume to provide several times increase mana regeneration rate for a few seconds instead of an instant mana injection and make it not possible to consume another unit while previous consume is still in effect

this would still provide that one darkswarm protection upon spawning of the defiler but will not allow "infinite" spells by the same unit
Drone is a way of living
doktordingerdonger
Profile Joined October 2025
117 Posts
April 01 2026 16:46 GMT
#227
On April 01 2026 23:25 Postalpj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2026 20:40 Gorsameth wrote:
its just so hard to fight through Dark swarm + plague for Terran


The real problem is consume. Infinite spells is something no one else can come close to


d-tier take

I bet each vessel will get out more spells than defilers in their lifespan. You rarely see a defiler with more dark swarms done than 2.

So much for 'infinite'
doktordingerdonger
Profile Joined October 2025
117 Posts
April 01 2026 16:46 GMT
#228
On April 01 2026 23:06 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2026 21:21 doktordingerdonger wrote:
On April 01 2026 21:19 Zografa wrote:
9 terrans 4 protoss 3 zerg in ro16

big lol


And the terrans in this forum told me that RO24 would just kick out most terrans anyway....

Only in ONE group did another race take a spot away from a terran (Rain)

nah we had a group where two terrans were brutally eliminated!


If we take Flash out of the equation in that group, then the tvt winrate is just 30%
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4103 Posts
April 01 2026 16:55 GMT
#229
On April 02 2026 01:46 doktordingerdonger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2026 23:25 Postalpj wrote:
On April 01 2026 20:40 Gorsameth wrote:
its just so hard to fight through Dark swarm + plague for Terran


The real problem is consume. Infinite spells is something no one else can come close to


d-tier take

I bet each vessel will get out more spells than defilers in their lifespan. You rarely see a defiler with more dark swarms done than 2.

So much for 'infinite'


f-tier take

you rarely see a vessel winning a game with 2 irradiates. Talking to you as a zerg player too btw.
Drone is a way of living
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3228 Posts
April 01 2026 17:34 GMT
#230
The Ro24 results mean that the usual group of death in Ro16 - group D - will turn out to be the weakest group in Ro16 because they have two consecutive picks in the group selection. Unless Soma does something nasty like switching Flash to another group to make a real group of death, leaving group D as probably the weakest group in Ro16 ever.

Because what will likely happen is that:
- Soma picks Tulbo
- Snow picks Piano
- Bisu picks Leta
- Barracks picks Ample --> Ample picks sSak. And because Flash will be the last pick for sure, he'll go into this group of 4 Ts again.

It's funny that the season Flash returns, key players, including the ones who can take him down like Soulkey and Best, are dropping like flies. Not that he wouldn't win this season with all those players in, but he probably didn't expect his run to be this easy.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10470 Posts
April 01 2026 17:35 GMT
#231
On April 01 2026 21:22 Peeano wrote:
Imagine being so good at one build that over 15 years later it still makes you advance into the Ro16 even when your opponent knows you will do it.

Fear not the player who practices 10000 builds once, but fear the Leta who practices 2 port wraith 10000 times.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
April 01 2026 17:40 GMT
#232
did leta really advance or is it a april gag
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8901 Posts
April 01 2026 17:45 GMT
#233
On April 02 2026 02:40 TT1 wrote:
did leta really advance or is it a april gag

yes TT1 ! First JD
and then Leta - king of wraiths !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1259 Posts
April 01 2026 17:47 GMT
#234
This was bound to happen. If you insist on picking maps that Terrans have been having wet dreams about for close to 25 years now you get a setup like this. And guess what, if those players that don't change much get to do that every year they themselves get better at it since they know what it takes to break their opponent whilst the others are continuously trying to either catch up or find new ways to maybe turn the tides.

So what kept Starcraft going for so many years is what's actually slowly killing it. Maps.

As for the group today, nothing much to say, the results were maybe unexpected but at the same time entirely in the realm of possibilities for BO1.

Best is not a poker player so he doesn't comprehend this format (let alone against Zerg) so that game wasn't a surprise either.
To make this season complete I fully expect a group with all zergs and a protoss and another one with 2 protosses at least in the next round.
zelevin
Profile Joined January 2012
United States317 Posts
April 01 2026 17:47 GMT
#235
This ASL season.... Man, I would be so broke if I bet on the round of 24.
"You're the idiot, idiot. That's why your fuckin' name is Idiot." - Artosis to CSG
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
April 01 2026 17:48 GMT
#236
On April 02 2026 02:45 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2026 02:40 TT1 wrote:
did leta really advance or is it a april gag

yes TT1 ! First JD
and then Leta - king of wraiths !


TIME MACHINE SEASON
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8066 Posts
April 01 2026 19:02 GMT
#237
Leta with an absolute masterclass game 1. Game of his life.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8066 Posts
April 01 2026 19:55 GMT
#238
Damn nice throw from Queen in the last game lol. Leta deserves credit for keeping his cool though. Glad he advanced!

I feel bad for Best .

Lastly... Jane Doe is a boring map :/
Talaris
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland764 Posts
April 01 2026 22:38 GMT
#239
On April 01 2026 23:06 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2026 21:21 doktordingerdonger wrote:
On April 01 2026 21:19 Zografa wrote:
9 terrans 4 protoss 3 zerg in ro16

big lol


And the terrans in this forum told me that RO24 would just kick out most terrans anyway....

Only in ONE group did another race take a spot away from a terran (Rain)

nah we had a group where two terrans were brutally eliminated!


ya, we better get a more Terran favored map pool next season xD
-= Jaedong // HerO // HasuObs // Best // Rush =-
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8901 Posts
April 02 2026 04:23 GMT
#240
On April 02 2026 02:48 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2026 02:45 prosatan wrote:
On April 02 2026 02:40 TT1 wrote:
did leta really advance or is it a april gag

yes TT1 ! First JD
and then Leta - king of wraiths !


TIME MACHINE SEASON

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3489 Posts
April 02 2026 16:38 GMT
#241
Group F for fantastic (except for protoss but well).
Happy for leta and his good ol 2 port wraith. TvP of his life vs Best too
Horang2 fan
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3142 Posts
April 03 2026 02:04 GMT
#242
I was not expecting Leta to advance to the ro16. I thought for sure BeSt would eat him alive.

My Liquibets are in tatters.
Artosis loves Starcraft
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8901 Posts
April 03 2026 03:39 GMT
#243
On April 03 2026 11:04 NoS-Craig wrote:
I was not expecting Leta to advance to the ro16. I thought for sure BeSt would eat him alive.

My Liquibets are in tatters.

mine too
let's wait for the LB update to see the standings...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
April 03 2026 03:46 GMT
#244
I'll be honest I expected Queen and Best to make it even tho I was hoping JD is going to get past them but apparently JD is better than them ATM.

Leta is a big surprise. Kinda just cooked queen and best lmao

What is with these upsets.
this is a quote
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
525 Posts
April 03 2026 05:29 GMT
#245
Glad to see JD advance! Hope he can make it even farther now!
haegN
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway547 Posts
April 03 2026 09:26 GMT
#246
On April 01 2026 21:19 RowdierBob wrote:
This is gonna be worse than ASL5 with Sparkle, Third World and Gladiator in the map pool.

We’re gonna end up with like a Flash, Light, Royal and Sharp ro4.


They really fkd up with these maps. Flash 21 champion as was engineered.
None can give you skills, ubermicro, wins or anything. If you are man - you take it!
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5181 Posts
April 03 2026 10:13 GMT
#247
Calling out map imbalance as a thing pro's can't overcome is an actual F-tier take.
Sure, advantages exist, but if you think strats can't be tailored in a bo5/7 to catch them with their pants down that's on you. Also, having maps skew towards your race has an added psychological debuff in becoming complacant because you assume you're stronger because of the map -- they might not put in enough effort and just play standard and lose because of that.
So... advantage Flash, for sure, but don't count out Bisu/Soma/JD/Rain just yet.
Taxes are for Terrans
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 03 2026 11:27 GMT
#248
On April 03 2026 12:39 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2026 11:04 NoS-Craig wrote:
I was not expecting Leta to advance to the ro16. I thought for sure BeSt would eat him alive.

My Liquibets are in tatters.

mine too
let's wait for the LB update to see the standings...


updated now
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8901 Posts
April 03 2026 11:32 GMT
#249
On April 03 2026 20:27 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2026 12:39 prosatan wrote:
On April 03 2026 11:04 NoS-Craig wrote:
I was not expecting Leta to advance to the ro16. I thought for sure BeSt would eat him alive.

My Liquibets are in tatters.

mine too
let's wait for the LB update to see the standings...


updated now

Thank you BLinD-RawR !!

Meh .... only 6 points... and 72nd place....
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
haegN
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway547 Posts
April 03 2026 12:44 GMT
#250
On April 03 2026 19:13 Uldridge wrote:
Calling out map imbalance as a thing pro's can't overcome is an actual F-tier take.
Sure, advantages exist, but if you think strats can't be tailored in a bo5/7 to catch them with their pants down that's on you. Also, having maps skew towards your race has an added psychological debuff in becoming complacant because you assume you're stronger because of the map -- they might not put in enough effort and just play standard and lose because of that.
So... advantage Flash, for sure, but don't count out Bisu/Soma/JD/Rain just yet.


Fair point I guess, I think maybe it’s a combination of Terrans figuring out a lot of new stuff lately and getting help from maps. I don’t think SOOP could have anticipated that combination, so I was a big too quick to judge. Ro. 16 should be better. Still gutted Rush, Queen and Best is not in it. Leta appeared to be playing a great macro game vs best but it was more the map bring incredibly T favoured in straight up play, so easy to get 4 defendable bases.
None can give you skills, ubermicro, wins or anything. If you are man - you take it!
barcodejester
Profile Joined March 2022
53 Posts
April 03 2026 12:57 GMT
#251
On April 03 2026 19:13 Uldridge wrote:
Calling out map imbalance as a thing pro's can't overcome is an actual F-tier take.
Sure, advantages exist, but if you think strats can't be tailored in a bo5/7 to catch them with their pants down that's on you. Also, having maps skew towards your race has an added psychological debuff in becoming complacant because you assume you're stronger because of the map -- they might not put in enough effort and just play standard and lose because of that.
So... advantage Flash, for sure, but don't count out Bisu/Soma/JD/Rain just yet.


at the higher levels things like maps make an even bigger difference than with lower skilled players.

trying to act like its a disadvantage for terran to play on terran favored maps is a while line of thought.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5181 Posts
April 03 2026 13:32 GMT
#252
I think it can make you overconfident and sloppy in your gameplay as a result, as much as a pro can play sloppy at least.
Secondly, the ingenuity and grit pros have to overcome these issues is inspiring. I wouldn't count anyone out to find tailored solutions to these maps to, at the very least, give them a fighting chance.
For clarity: I still think the maps are very T favored, just laying out the conditions out in the open one also has to consider.
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
April 03 2026 21:02 GMT
#253
What a great group!

Queen botched that attack in the final game. He ran seven zerglings in instead of killing the empty bunker, then moved them to a corner attacking nothing while being slowly killed by the wraiths. I feel like he focused too hard on his mutas in the natural and just abandoned the lings. Then threw everything he had a now-loaded bunker and lost everything.

Not looking forward to 500 terrans, but I'm glad Leta is among them for some spice.
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ruhtraeel
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada134 Posts
April 06 2026 17:45 GMT
#254
Fuck why do I keep cheering for Best
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 06 2026 18:16 GMT
#255
On April 07 2026 02:45 ruhtraeel wrote:
Fuck why do I keep cheering for Best

Because he's one of the few who can oppose God and unlike many other pros doesn't have any dirty laundry out
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Whiztard
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States237 Posts
April 10 2026 08:35 GMT
#256
Bro wtf happened in group selectuons for ro16. Group C hellooooo
when Bisu switches to SC2...... (2014 update: sighh)
Sirris17
Profile Joined March 2026
22 Posts
April 10 2026 08:47 GMT
#257
On April 03 2026 12:46 goody153 wrote:
I'll be honest I expected Queen and Best to make it even tho I was hoping JD is going to get past them but apparently JD is better than them ATM.

Leta is a big surprise. Kinda just cooked queen and best lmao

What is with these upsets.

Jaedong has been destroying almost everyone in proleague /spon matches
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1717 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-14 14:17:25
April 14 2026 14:16 GMT
#258
Eh I'm so jaded with any high-stakes ZvP. It will 99% of the time be an all-in, and by definition will be very hard to stop. It's upsetting.

Having said that, it was great fun to see Leta play so well. He's got a great presence as well.

JD too, really pleased to see him do so well in this round.
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Kraekkling
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
713 Posts
April 14 2026 14:52 GMT
#259
On April 03 2026 19:13 Uldridge wrote:
Calling out map imbalance as a thing pro's can't overcome is an actual F-tier take. [...] Also, having maps skew towards your race has an added psychological debuff in becoming complacant because you assume you're stronger because of the map -- they might not put in enough effort and just play standard and lose because of that.


that's such a terrible argument


"well yeah, he does have the fastest car in this car race, but because he knows he is fastest, he will try less hard compared to other people, so it's actually bad to have the fastest car"

"well yeah, he is the only person with the new high tech spear in this spear throwing competition, and the spear can fly 10% further than regular spears, but [...]"
(*^^)(^*)
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5181 Posts
April 14 2026 17:19 GMT
#260
It's not like they're doing it on purpose...
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