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ALLEYCAT BLUES51446 Posts
Source: https://www.sooplive.co.kr/station/afstar1/post/187939817
Hello.
This is the ASL administrator.
We are pleased to announce the preliminary rounds for ‘Google Play ASL Season 21’, which will be held in a new format in 2026.
This season will also be held in partnership with Google Play.
■ Application Period
- From Wednesday, February 25th to Wednesday, March 4th at 23:59
- Application Page (GGGL): [Apply Now]
■ Qualifiers
- Online Qualifier Day 1: Saturday, March 7
- Online Qualifier Day 2: Sunday, March 8
l Please note that players participating in the tournament are not permitted to stream during the online qualifiers. Streaming will be allowed after the qualifiers conclude.
l To ensure smooth online competition, participants without a Discord account are requested to create one and provide their details.
l After each round concludes, the winning player must save the replay and immediately share it with the organizers.
Failure to upload the replay file may delay the next match.
l To prevent cheating, players are obligated to record their entire participation in the qualifiers, ensuring both themselves and their gameplay screen are visible.
The organizers may request submission of the recorded footage at a later date. Failure to submit may result in disqualification.
(Preparing the necessary recording environment, including devices and stands, is the player's responsibility.)
Machine Translated.
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On March 07 2026 06:45 bulbousbrain wrote:
What time is it?
TIME TO GET A WATCH LMFAO
Broadcast supposedly starting at 1:00 PM KST, 11:00 PM EST, 5 AM CST (3 hrs from this post) with prelims already underway.
source, translated version of this page:
https://www.sooplive.co.kr/station/afstar1/post/187939817
Just keep afreecatv.com/afstar1 stream open, hot, and rdy to go like a little ceasars pizza.
And watch as ggaemo knocks out FlaSh.
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It already started stream will start delayed.
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confirmed qualifications at this point in time, click at your own risk!
Use spoilers please for the people who don't want to be spoiled.
+ Show Spoiler +
Group 1: Piano defeats Stork
Group 2: Mong defeats Mini
Group 3: Royal defeats Skey
Group 4: Rush defeats BTS
Group 5: HerO vs YSC finals
Group 6: Semis still underway.
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Maybe you guys should spoiler-proof posts here?
Noteable players from each group (I don't reveal who wins)
+ Show Spoiler +Group 1: Organ Movie Stork Larva Sky
Group 2: Mini Ample Ruby Mong
Group 3: Royal Noob Skey
Group 4: Hiya Pusan Rush Backho Ggaemo
Group 5: Saber YSC Hero Ssak
Group 6: JYJ Ruin Action Bishop
Group 7: Soulkey Leta Shuttle 815
Group 8: Calm Sacsri Dewalt Light Free
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On March 07 2026 12:59 namkraft wrote:Maybe you guys should spoiler-proof posts here? Noteable players from each group (I don't reveal who wins) + Show Spoiler +Group 1: Organ Movie Stork Larva Sky
Group 2: Mini Ample Ruby Mong
Group 3: Royal Noob Skey
Group 4: Hiya Pusan Rush Backho Ggaemo
Group 5: Saber YSC Hero Ssak
Group 6: JYJ Ruin Action Bishop
Group 7: Soulkey Leta Shuttle 815
Group 8: Calm Sacsri Dewalt Light Free
+ Show Spoiler +
Olympus was also in group 6.
Dewalt is 1:0 vs Light in their first/second round match.
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Update to qualifications, click at your own risk!
+ Show Spoiler +
Group 1: Piano defeats Stork
Group 2: Mong defeats Mini
Group 3: Royal defeats Skey
Group 4: Rush defeats BTS
Group 5: YSC defeats HerO (update)
Group 6: Semis still underway.
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friendly reminder that english subtitles are available on korean cast, just click CC =))
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small update
+ Show Spoiler +
dewalt 1-2 vs light
tough bracket for him
group 6:
Bishop beats Action.
JyJ Beats Ruin
JyJ vs Bishop finals.
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On March 07 2026 13:47 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:small update + Show Spoiler +
dewalt 1-2 vs light
tough bracket for him
group 6:
Bishop beats Action.
JyJ Beats Ruin
JyJ vs Bishop finals.
+ Show Spoiler +Dewalt would have better chance tomorrow
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Group 12
+ Show Spoiler +Anyone know who Flash is facing in the final of the bracket? Not a name I know of
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an exciting season is upon us! featuring:
- Flash
- Soulkey
- a shitload of cannon fodder terrans
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Terrans having a good day for sure 
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Qualified
+ Show Spoiler +Flash
Jd
Rain
Really nice having them qualify
Hopeing for scan tomorrow
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How to watch casted games without spoilers? Any English caster like artosis or saiyan?
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So Who qualified day 1 ? Organizers didnt give effort the chance to play ?
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On March 07 2026 18:22 spets1 wrote:
How to watch casted games without spoilers? Any English caster like artosis or saiyan?
Artosis going to cast it from a clean feed im pretty sure. Should be up on his yt within days
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On March 07 2026 18:30 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
So Who qualified day 1 ? Organizers didnt give effort the chance to play ?
 ASL/21/Qualifier/Day 1
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piano and huro sound like the surprising results to me
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Looks like we’re gonna have a lot of TvT this season.
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Dewalt losing 1;2 vs Light? Still impresive.
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Day 1 Results:
+ Show Spoiler +7/12 T
2/12 P
3/12 Z
flash T
rain P
zero Z
Jaedong Z
Light T
Soulkey Z
JYJ T
Huro P
Rush T
Royal T
Mong T
Piano T
.......TESAGI
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the first few groups caught me by mild surprise, but after that it all went as expected.
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On March 07 2026 19:11 Zografa wrote:
piano and huro sound like the surprising results to me
Huro made it to one of the finals of the ASL open iirc, so he seems to be in pretty good shape atm.
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On March 08 2026 00:10 Miragee wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2026 19:11 Zografa wrote:
piano and huro sound like the surprising results to me Huro made it to one of the finals of the ASL open iirc, so he seems to be in pretty good shape atm.
Both Mong and YSC seem in their best shape right now. Mong did really well in most of the ESCORE days and in the Open days too.
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Who did Flash ROFLstomp to win his Final? Fakemini tag
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On March 08 2026 02:30 rotta wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Is Piano now the oldest player to have qualified for an ASL?
+ Show Spoiler +i was going to say nada at 35 but piano has smashed that at 38 lol
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I hope to see + Show Spoiler +Mind, Scan, Speed, sSak, Skey, Ample, Leta, Hiya, BishOp, Mihu
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Russian Federation181 Posts
Anyone can share a link to a tournament grid?
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Russian Federation181 Posts
was talking about soop link to a tournament grid
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Russian Federation181 Posts
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Group 2 spoiler. Group was very fast.
+ Show Spoiler +
Soo beat Motive in Semi.
herO beat Soo in finals.
HerO qualifies.
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Group 1 update, not final result yet
+ Show Spoiler +
Scan beat Movie in Semi
Scan vs Stork in finals
Edit1:
Update Group 1&3
+ Show Spoiler +
Scan beat Stork 2-0 and has Qualified through group 1!
Calm beat Horang2 and then Killer to Qualify from Group 3!
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On March 08 2026 11:53 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:Group 1 update, not final result yet + Show Spoiler +
Scan beat Movie in Semi
Scan vs Stork in finals
Edit1: Update Group 1&3 + Show Spoiler +
Scan beat Stork 2-0 and has Qualified through group 1!
Calm beat Horang2 and then Killer to Qualify from Group 3!
+ Show Spoiler +Scan slowly becoming more solid & consistent , that’s nice
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group 4&5&6 update:
+ Show Spoiler +
Group 4
Larva beat Shinee 2-1 in semi, now vs ZeloT in finals.
Group 5
Olympus beat Shuttle
Ample beat Artuser
Olympus vs Ample finals.
Group 6
Ssak beat Hiya semi
Mini beat Ruin semi
Ssak vs Mini finals
Qualified:
1: Scan
2: herO
3: Calm
4: tbd
5: tbd
6: tbd
7: tbd
8: tbd
9: tbd
10: tbd
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UPDATE GROUP 4 and 5
+ Show Spoiler +
Group 4
ZeloT vs Larva CRAZY ZvZ ENDING!
Larva wins! 2-1 in MEGA CLOSE FINISH
Group 5
Ample beats Olympus!
Qualified:
1: Scan
2: herO
3: Calm
4: Larva
5: Ample
6: tbd
7: tbd
8: tbd
9: tbd
10: tbd
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On March 08 2026 04:12 bulbousbrain wrote:
Who did Flash ROFLstomp to win his Final? Fakemini tag
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Update group 6!!
+ Show Spoiler +
sSak 2-1 Mini. Mini is OUT of the ASL before it even begins!
Qualified:
1: Scan over Stork
2: herO over Soo
3: Calm over Killer
4: Larva over ZeloT(SUPER HYPE ZVZ)
5: Ample over Olympus
6: Ssak over Mini
7: tbd
8: tbd
9: tbd
10: tbd
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On March 08 2026 14:30 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:Update group 6!! + Show Spoiler +
sSak 2-1 Mini. Mini is OUT of the ASL before it even begins!
Qualified:
1: Scan over Stork
2: herO over Soo
3: Calm over Killer
4: Larva over ZeloT(SUPER HYPE ZVZ)
5: Ample over Olympus
6: Ssak over Mini
7: tbd
8: tbd
9: tbd
10: tbd
+ Show Spoiler +As if this ASL cannot be more Tesagi
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If anyone likes TVT, then you are so fucking lucky
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On March 08 2026 14:47 vndestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2026 14:30 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:Update group 6!! + Show Spoiler +
sSak 2-1 Mini. Mini is OUT of the ASL before it even begins!
Qualified:
1: Scan over Stork
2: herO over Soo
3: Calm over Killer
4: Larva over ZeloT(SUPER HYPE ZVZ)
5: Ample over Olympus
6: Ssak over Mini
7: tbd
8: tbd
9: tbd
10: tbd
+ Show Spoiler +As if this ASL cannot be more Tesagi
+ Show Spoiler +Now Action is out. lost to LETA of all people
What. the. fuck.
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So. end results:
+ Show Spoiler +1: Scan over Stork
2: herO over Soo
3: Calm over Killer
4: Larva over ZeloT
5: Ample over Olympus
6: Ssak over Mini
7: Mind over some guy that took over Dewalt and hani on his way
8: Shine over BTS
9: Leta over Action
10: Speed over free
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lmao what is going on with the draw
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They're redoing the last part because they dropped the balls and got them mixed up, lol.
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3 protosses, 7 zergs and 14 terrans, but one of the protosses is in a group with 3 zergs xD
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Really is the season of terrans
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On March 08 2026 17:48 Kreuger wrote:Really is the season of terrans
I doubt that the number of terrans will impact the end results (the final 8 or 4) in a meaningful way, but we will have to endure zillions TvTs
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Well, SK's best match up is vs Terran, so if he has a good draw, it might be a roflstomp, not even Flash will kill him imo.
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Flash getting all terrans
Jds groups looks good
Scan might have a chance
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On March 08 2026 17:48 Kreuger wrote:Really is the season of terrans
What a surprise with the map pool. :o Lets see how they hold up in the Ro24/Ro16...
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so this is officially the most imbalanced season in terms of race distribution - 15 terrans is kind of absurd
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On March 08 2026 18:10 Kreuger wrote:
Jds groups looks good
JDs group looks like a Ro16 group
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On March 08 2026 18:33 M2 wrote:JDs group looks like a Ro16 group
D, E and F groups all look like Ro16
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On March 08 2026 18:33 M2 wrote:JDs group looks like a Ro16 group
Yeah. Will be a fun one
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It seems that the ratings of ASL Ro24 will set a record this time
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Group A: I feel like Rain is kinda fucked, unless he practises like he should
Group B: Rooting for my boy Ssak
Group C: Rooting for my boy Shine
Group D: meh.
Group E: meh, except I feel like Rush might seriously not get out, which would be sad
Group F: group of death and the saddest one of all - i want best, jd and queen all in ro16 in this day and age of terrans.
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Not super enthralled with this season but there's a decent chance ro16 on could be OK.
Would have preferred if we didn't care what Flash was doing and just made super interesting maps even if they were a bit imbalanced. It's like going through the motions with Brood War these days. Which, hey, it's basically a Korean game at this point and if this is how they want to play it then fine. There should be other RTS pulling our attention anyway, after 30 years. So I don't really care that much.
Sad for Mini but maybe he gets to relax and play another game or something. His PvT has been sagging for a while and I don't blame him for going down, despite some questionable plays. It is what it is. But can't say I care about the outcome of this season without someone like Mini making a run.
I will say how Larva qualified was stuff of legends and I hope he goes far. That was an awesome display of skill.
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Whoever is in control of the map pool should be fired. The Terran favouritism is insane and is going to ruin what had been a good thing with recent ASL seasons. Terrans outnumbering Protoss and Zerg combined is not a good thing for the scene.
Pretty disappointing.
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Please, where are the groups ??
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On March 08 2026 20:10 prosatan wrote:
Please, where are the groups ??
ASL/21
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lol.
+ Show Spoiler +terrans were getting blasted in spons and proleaguee, but 15 made it in LOL.
Tbh a lot of zergs eliminated zergs. It is more a result of protoss ans zerg eliminarmting one anothe. Also effOrt missing signup alsp hurts zerg.
Glad Speed, Scan, and Ample got in. Moonlight Proleague members thriving!
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To be honest, I usually don't criticize SOOP, after all, hosting ASL is a loss for them. But this year's ASL from ASL Open Match to grouping with Ro24 was almost a disaster. Why spend so much time live streaming ASL Open Match, for a total of 10 hours a week just for two qualifying spots? There is no need for Ro24 groups to necessarily broadcast live. I can accept them selecting some interesting groups behind the scenes for ratings and balance, instead of broadcasting a bunch of mirror match
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Oh man I was hyped for JD with his recent insane Proleague form.
Then he grouped with the 2nd best Protoss and a A/S tier Zerg in the bo1s round. Absolutely greattt.
(And actually is the best(worst) P he could’ve group with, because Snow is seeded already ugh)
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Meanwhile Flash group with 3 other Terrans, include grandpa Piano 
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my predictions:
+ Show Spoiler +A: Rain, Sharp
B: Soulkey, Ssak
C: Hero, Larva
D: Light, Royal
E: Flash, Rush
F: Best, Jaedong
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lol lot of zergs ended up in the same groups instead of split up. We will see very few zergs in Ro16 lol.
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I think protoss is a bit too strong race in this game.
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On March 08 2026 21:40 Poegim wrote:
I think protoss is a bit too strong race in this game.
Lol.
But really outside of mini, no other P in qualifiers missing out is that shocking. Stork is very inconsistent, shuttle is shuttle. You can't argue the likes of ruin or horang2 (as much as i loved him during kespa) deserve to be there.
If anything i m more surprised about the Z
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Sad Effort isnt competing in this ASL
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So let me get this straight: Protoss haven’t won a major tournament in five years and the organizers’ brilliant solution is to give us the most Terran-favored map pool in history? Really?
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On March 08 2026 23:53 Maks wrote:
So let me get this straight: Protoss haven’t won a major tournament in five years and the organizers’ brilliant solution is to give us the most Terran-favored map pool in history? Really?
Our community's indifference to the egregious self-evident racial imbalance, visible in results of top tier tournaments since forever, is truly striking. Science moved aside for doctrine a long time ago, and we are as such left only with meaningless unfounded slogans such as "best balanced RTS of all time" and similar. Without pressure from the community, status quo endures of course. Worst of it all is, I feel many would sooner see BW popularity plummet as P fans give up, than even consider more radical solutions, at least in mapmaking.
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On March 08 2026 14:16 bulbousbrain wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2026 04:12 bulbousbrain wrote:
Who did Flash ROFLstomp to win his Final? Fakemini tag ^
gonna keep trying until someone answers, guess no one knows
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the groups are fine to me, a Protoss fan. free didn't play well enough to win. mini has been trending down for years and years; he's just not that great anymore. Protoss race hasn't had depth in forever. I mean YSC made it in and he's always disappointing. Stork has been meh for years. Rain actually competed and pretty easily made it in. Leta played well to beat Action. Action has been trending down for years anyway. Mong and sSak also played well. Don't think it's a map problem; P has been dominating KCM this season.
Best, Bisu, Snow, Rain, massive gap, mini, big gap, Stork, Tyson, Shuttle, YSC, Motive, free are the only decently consistent Protosses out there, and outside of the top 4 (and Rain doesn't regularly compete, so really just top 3), none of those other Ps are appreciably better than lower first class Ts like Mind/Scan/Mong/JyJ/sSak or lower first class Zs like JD/Action/Clam/Larva/Sacsri/Zelot/BTS. Z has more first class players (soma, soulkey, zero, hero) than P, w/ soma and soulkey legit contenders for best players in the world. No P is a contender for best player in the world (sorry, Snow and Best). T, meanwhile, has Flash/Light/arguably Rush and Royal (dark horses, they are playing quite well) as contenders for best player in the world. Protoss players just aren't as good as T and Z.
I think ZvP is heavily favored for Z but it's also just the fact that Protoss players aren't as skilled as T or Z.
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i just want flash, jd and bisu in ro4, one last time :D
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On March 09 2026 00:54 bulbousbrain wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2026 14:16 bulbousbrain wrote:On March 08 2026 04:12 bulbousbrain wrote:
Who did Flash ROFLstomp to win his Final? Fakemini tag ^ gonna keep trying until someone answers, guess no one knows
CoolGG
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On March 09 2026 00:54 bulbousbrain wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2026 14:16 bulbousbrain wrote:On March 08 2026 04:12 bulbousbrain wrote:
Who did Flash ROFLstomp to win his Final? Fakemini tag ^ gonna keep trying until someone answers, guess no one knows
Links to both, English and Korean, brackets were posted in this very thread. Maybe just click on them?
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On March 09 2026 01:04 bulbousbrain wrote:
the groups are fine to me, a Protoss fan. free didn't play well enough to win. mini has been trending down for years and years; he's just not that great anymore. Protoss race hasn't had depth in forever. I mean YSC made it in and he's always disappointing. Stork has been meh for years. Rain actually competed and pretty easily made it in. Leta played well to beat Action. Action has been trending down for years anyway. Mong and sSak also played well. Don't think it's a map problem; P has been dominating KCM this season.
Best, Bisu, Snow, Rain, massive gap, mini, big gap, Stork, Tyson, Shuttle, YSC, Motive, free are the only decently consistent Protosses out there, and outside of the top 4 (and Rain doesn't regularly compete, so really just top 3), none of those other Ps are appreciably better than lower first class Ts like Mind/Scan/Mong/JyJ/sSak or lower first class Zs like JD/Action/Clam/Larva/Sacsri/Zelot/BTS. Z has more first class players (soma, soulkey, zero, hero) than P, w/ soma and soulkey legit contenders for best players in the world. No P is a contender for best player in the world (sorry, Snow and Best). T, meanwhile, has Flash/Light/arguably Rush and Royal (dark horses, they are playing quite well) as contenders for best player in the world. Protoss players just aren't as good as T and Z.
I think ZvP is heavily favored for Z but it's also just the fact that Protoss players aren't as skilled as T or Z.
Agree
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Fantasy has been playing the ladder and regularly uploading Terran guides on his youtube channel. Pretty sure he would qualify if he decided to play ASL. Took him 6 months from zero to win that Saudi cup. ASL qualifier is a much lower bar, so probably would take a few weeks of training.
Imagine also, if Last unretired (and injury permitted). No race has such a rich pool of top tier players.
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On March 09 2026 01:45 Zografa wrote:
i just want flash, jd and bisu in ro4, one last time :D
One last time...
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On March 09 2026 01:04 bulbousbrain wrote:
the groups are fine to me, a Protoss fan. free didn't play well enough to win. mini has been trending down for years and years; he's just not that great anymore. Protoss race hasn't had depth in forever. I mean YSC made it in and he's always disappointing. Stork has been meh for years. Rain actually competed and pretty easily made it in. Leta played well to beat Action. Action has been trending down for years anyway. Mong and sSak also played well. Don't think it's a map problem; P has been dominating KCM this season.
Best, Bisu, Snow, Rain, massive gap, mini, big gap, Stork, Tyson, Shuttle, YSC, Motive, free are the only decently consistent Protosses out there, and outside of the top 4 (and Rain doesn't regularly compete, so really just top 3), none of those other Ps are appreciably better than lower first class Ts like Mind/Scan/Mong/JyJ/sSak or lower first class Zs like JD/Action/Clam/Larva/Sacsri/Zelot/BTS. Z has more first class players (soma, soulkey, zero, hero) than P, w/ soma and soulkey legit contenders for best players in the world. No P is a contender for best player in the world (sorry, Snow and Best). T, meanwhile, has Flash/Light/arguably Rush and Royal (dark horses, they are playing quite well) as contenders for best player in the world. Protoss players just aren't as good as T and Z.
I think ZvP is heavily favored for Z but it's also just the fact that Protoss players aren't as skilled as T or Z.
Reading this it feels like you don't follow spons, proleague, kcm, or eloboard.... tell me if I am wrong but I disagree with numerous takes here, but some takes seem completely detached from the current state of BW pro play.
Rain: He's not in "great shape' at all. He's not been very active whatsoever and actually currently has a kind of mediocre performance going by his standards. He's a worse performer at this exact point in time in everything compared to Mini. Rain's doing so poorly he's dropped all the way down to rank 30 on Eloboard. That's the lowest he has EVER been.
Mini: Mini actually looked good in everything, sSak just got the better of him. It happens. Mini's been hovering in the top 8 for pretty much all of the past few years on eloboard. sSak's very active and just in great shape. sSak being in great shape and beating Mini =/= Mini being in terrible washed up shape. That claim just doesn't hold any truth. It's made-up and not reflected in ANY of Mini's results.
Jaedong: ranking Jaedong in his current 2026 form as anything other than a tier 1 zerg is outrageous. He's been the number #1 performing zerg in 2026 so far.
HerO: Hero's been performing his worst in years since around november 2025 and hasn't regained his form yet. We'll have to wait and see how he holds and if he gets his form back together. But going by everything he's currently a tier 2 zerg, not a tier 1 zerg.
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Sad to hear about Mini, he is an entertaining player.
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On March 09 2026 01:04 bulbousbrain wrote:
the groups are fine to me, a Protoss fan.
Saying you are protoss fan doesn't mean much if you can always pretend lmao
mini has been trending down for years and years; he's just not that great anymore.
mini is the highest rated protoss lately
I swear every time we have another tesagi evidence, terrans come out and gaslight everyone that it must be talent difference or some shit.
Terran enjoys a 55% winrate for decades already while z and p deal with 47%. We had 'geniuses' like Sea and Nada who stayed high level for years despite not playing much. Hell I wish the mech switch meta back because at least there was less tesagi denial back in those days when TvZ was 60%.
I would respect you terrans more if you did not try to gaslight everyone else that it must be a talent difference. In reality you all deep down know that tesagi is real but you are too bad to exploit it. This is why we had the biggest known ragers in the game playing terran are complete narcissist with idra, artosis or recently gypsy, because they also know that deep down they main a 55% winrate race but still suck ass, so they have to lash out because it goes against their own weird narrative of always being the victim. This is why yall have to spread the idea that terran must just be harder to play lmao, so yall call Nada and Sea geniuses instead of lazy progamers that just exploit tesagi.
Funny how yall are playing the strongest race but have the weakest character. Please just git gud (in exploiting tesagi) and shut up.
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So sad mini didn't qualify, his games are always a blast to watch  . Can't even remember the last time he didn't make Ro24!
I have a feeling that that Ro16 will be a lot more balanced, but this really looks like theyre rolling out the red carpet for flash haha
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On March 09 2026 01:52 rotta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2026 00:54 bulbousbrain wrote:On March 08 2026 14:16 bulbousbrain wrote:On March 08 2026 04:12 bulbousbrain wrote:
Who did Flash ROFLstomp to win his Final? Fakemini tag ^ gonna keep trying until someone answers, guess no one knows CoolGG
Thanks. Who's that? Never heard of him. How'd he make the finals of the qualifiers?
On March 09 2026 04:15 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Reading this it feels like you don't follow spons, proleague, kcm, or eloboard.... tell me if I am wrong
you're wrong.
Not gonna lie I stopped reading there, I know you are obsessed with arguing and I don't care, you'll have to find someone else to indulge your obsession with.
On March 09 2026 05:01 doktordingerdonger wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2026 01:04 bulbousbrain wrote:
the groups are fine to me, a Protoss fan. Saying you are protoss fan doesn't mean much if you can always pretend lmao Show nested quote +
mini has been trending down for years and years; he's just not that great anymore.
mini is the highest rated protoss lately
you're also entitled to your opinion bro, lol what is it with the internet and people being so lonely they get addicted to arguing every opinion they don't agree with?
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Mini is a known choker, too emotional to consitently stay at top in tournaments.
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On March 09 2026 08:51 bulbousbrain wrote:
you're also entitled to your opinion bro, lol what is it with the internet and people being so lonely they get addicted to arguing every opinion they don't agree with?
Because forum is a place specifically for discussion and debate. If you don't want your opinion, which can be right or wrong, to be challenged, don't post. If you can't protect your "entitled" opinion, it's likely worthless.
Also it's not like it's that much different in real life. People just argue less in real life because of politeness and the potential consequences to their relationship with friends/colleagues, not because everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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Am I wrong in thinking Zelot threw the decider game vs Larva?
At that final moment, he had 5 (injured) Mutas, 5 Lings. Larva had 2 Drones, 3 Lings and 3 Spores. Zelot tried to micro his 5 Lings to kill the Drones, while leaving his Mutas idle, eventually losing all of his Lings and then of course the Mutas were useless against 3 Spores.
What I think he should have done is dive those Mutas into Larva's Lings. 5 Mutas should kill 3 Lings before the Spores kill them, right? Then his 5 Lings would have a free feast on whatever Larva had left.
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On March 09 2026 20:47 TMNT wrote:
Am I wrong in thinking Zelot threw the decider game vs Larva?
At that final moment, he had 5 (injured) Mutas, 5 Lings. Larva had 2 Drones, 3 Lings and 3 Spores. Zelot tried to micro his 5 Lings to kill the Drones, while leaving his Mutas idle, eventually losing all of his Lings and then of course the Mutas were useless against 3 Spores.
What I think he should have done is dive those Mutas into Larva's Lings. 5 Mutas should kill 3 Lings before the Spores kill them, right? Then his 5 Lings would have a free feast on whatever Larva had left.
Hindsight :p but yes. ZeLoT doesnt know what we know as viewer/observers, but he definitely did throw.
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anyone know what happened to TY in these qualifiers? did he give up trying to become a top BW player?
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On March 10 2026 05:41 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
anyone know what happened to TY in these qualifiers? did he give up trying to become a top BW player?
yeah he gave up
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Gonna say it again, Mini never consistently figured out PvT
He got it to a point it was acceptable enough to compete for an ASL title for a few years, but just missing that last push to become an all time great. There continues to be no Protoss consistently good against all 3 races
Snow never figured out Z
Mini and Rain never figured out T
Best never figured out P
Bisu might be the closest, but still not as dominant vs T
Shuttle is pretty average at all 3 matchups
I think that's what separates the great players from the Bonjwas, the Bonjwas had period where they looked dominant in every matchup
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+ Show Spoiler +What's group is easier than group E for FlaSh?.
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TY is funny as fck. Guy eliminated JD from ASL then quit his competitive career lmao. I imagine he is getting the bag just coaching the school girls and just doing that university content.
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On March 10 2026 20:15 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
TY is funny as fck. Guy eliminated JD from ASL then quit his competitive career lmao. I imagine he is getting the bag just coaching the school girls and just doing that university content.
Yes eon .... stupid proxy factory ... and also, shuttle decided to play good pvz....
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On March 10 2026 20:15 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
TY is funny as fck. Guy eliminated JD from ASL then quit his competitive career lmao. I imagine he is getting the bag just coaching the school girls and just doing that university content.
Afaik he doesnt play any BW atm. doesnt even seem involved in coaching
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On March 10 2026 09:42 ruhtraeel wrote:
Gonna say it again, Mini never consistently figured out PvT
He got it to a point it was acceptable enough to compete for an ASL title for a few years, but just missing that last push to become an all time great. There continues to be no Protoss consistently good against all 3 races
Snow never figured out Z
Mini and Rain never figured out T
Best never figured out P
Bisu might be the closest, but still not as dominant vs T
Shuttle is pretty average at all 3 matchups
I think that's what separates the great players from the Bonjwas, the Bonjwas had period where they looked dominant in every matchup
SnOw for the past two years has dominated all zergs beside SoMa and Soulkey, who respectively were the best two active players in the seasons they got their championships. Saying SnOw never figured out Z yet outperforming ALL other toss players vs Z since 2022-2023 is a factually incorrect statement.
During Soulkey's 4 seasons as number 1, only Light and SnOw were beating Soulkey 50% of the time in Woniu and Starcast and Ult battle spons. Everyone else was losing.
But the "present" matters, and SnOw is not in his best form and probably 2nd to Bisu at the moment.
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On March 11 2026 00:42 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2026 20:15 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
TY is funny as fck. Guy eliminated JD from ASL then quit his competitive career lmao. I imagine he is getting the bag just coaching the school girls and just doing that university content. Afaik he doesnt play any BW atm. doesnt even seem involved in coaching
TY is mostly casting right now, right? At least the dude casting the ASL(?) qualifiers looked like him
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On March 09 2026 08:40 Ideas wrote:So sad mini didn't qualify, his games are always a blast to watch . Can't even remember the last time he didn't make Ro24! I have a feeling that that Ro16 will be a lot more balanced, but this really looks like theyre rolling out the red carpet for flash haha
Just so blatantly obviously fixed to get Flash a deep run. Qualifiers and now this all T group…
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On March 16 2026 19:49 haegN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2026 08:40 Ideas wrote:So sad mini didn't qualify, his games are always a blast to watch . Can't even remember the last time he didn't make Ro24! I have a feeling that that Ro16 will be a lot more balanced, but this really looks like theyre rolling out the red carpet for flash haha Just so blatantly obviously fixed to get Flash a deep run. Qualifiers and now this all T group…
They may want Flash to get a deep run but I don't think they have to fix the group for him though. The qualifiers will always be easy for him, and they drew the balls for Ro24 live, so unless caster Park has some tricks up his sleeve... and it's not like if they give him Z it'd be any more difficult (there's barely any P to give him).
There's more of a case of fixing the group for JD in past seasons. His qualifier was always piss easy and in Ro24 they almost always paired him with the weakest tier 2 player (since JD is still tier 3 according to ASL points)
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LB is up ! Don't forget to vote ! 
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Only the fact never changes from 1999 until now and forever: Protoss is the weakest race in every major league/tournament in Korea (highest level of StarCraft). For foreign players, no one can be S rank if they play StarCraft in Korea. There is 30%-90% their point from free points due to quit game immediately by Korean players.
Sometime Protoss just is weak, sometime Protoss just is weaker, sometime Protoss is very weak, sometime Protoss really weak. It's totally dependent to exactly health of some guys: Bisu, Stork, Reach, Jangbi, Mini, Rain, SnOw, Best. But all ASL Zerg, Terran players can beat them easily, even some guys can take champion title like soma, JyJ, RoyaL, Larva.
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