EPT[ASL20] Grand Finals - Page 18
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4262 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4262 Posts
Whatever. | ||
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Bonyth
Poland600 Posts
Also people on TL saying that Snow was at fault for not scouting zerg when he had spire and didn't have 5 corsairs: i hope u are at least aware of the implications, as you are risking life of 1 corsair to get additional info on zerg. U'd think it's just 1 corsair, but i assure u it's a very important corsair. | ||
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3132 Posts
Can't stick around for the balance whine though. | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines689 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22353 Posts
On October 26 2025 20:02 Marl wrote: I can forgive the island map cause Bisu blundered his air army.bisu vs soma was the real finals sadly. fuck that island map. That game 7 tho. that was rough >< | ||
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TMNT
3171 Posts
On October 26 2025 20:06 Rainalcar wrote: Bisu won that one game after a crazy Soma throw. That's the only reason it went to g7. ZvP is imbalanced. There are so many Zs with dominant win rates. P reaching even 55% is miraculous. User was temp banned for this post. How is he banned for this post lol. This is not something outrageous to say. If the mods don't want "balance whine", a simple message would have sufficed. | ||
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Timebon3s
Norway764 Posts
mod edit: don't be a moron. | ||
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ScoutWBF
Germany639 Posts
On October 26 2025 20:15 Bonyth wrote: 20+ years of protoss underperforming. Yet people still claim protoss was the weaker player. Gotta hope it's PvT next season in the finals. But Terrans also get destroyed by the good Zergs right now. :/ | ||
Peeano
Netherlands5557 Posts
On October 26 2025 20:20 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: was that a kpop star in the black clothes after game 2? anyone know who it was? I wouldn't know, but if you care enough you can at least provide a screenshot or tinestamped link. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13416 Posts
As long as he keeps running into the Soukeys/Heros/Somas etc I’m not sure he can win one. | ||
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TMNT
3171 Posts
On October 26 2025 20:54 ScoutWBF wrote: Gotta hope it's PvT next season in the finals. But Terrans also get destroyed by the good Zergs right now. :/ If it's Flash in the finals there's not much hope for Protoss even for Snow. But probably better than the Zerg as even Soulkey is no match for him now. | ||
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Zergxhx
China196 Posts
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TMNT
3171 Posts
On October 26 2025 20:10 oxKnu wrote: The real winners on ASL finals day are the fans because we also get a fat online ProLeague series with all the names. P.S: The people saying Soma is just beneficial of the match-up for this title are delusional. He clearly showed you that he is superior to his opponent in the finals. It's not "just", obviously, otherwise BTS could also ZvP his way to ASL champion too. But you don't think having the ability to kill your opponent when they have no reliable way to scout your killing move is not a massive advantage? Today, the first game is a map win for Soma, the Dominator and Polestar games are matchup advantage-based wins, only the Knockout game is a fair and square win for him. On Snow's side, the Radeon game is a fair win, and the Metropolis one is a bit of a BO advantage win for him. How can you claim Soma is a superior player when Snow is a superior player to the best Terrans, who in turn are superior to Soma himself. It's almost there's a second, determining factor that decides that merry go round | ||
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SCRVN
199 Posts
Game 1: SnOw had advantage 99% time of game (he used the strategy that I thinked it's good for him. It's mass ground units), soma throw some times, but still won. Game 2: soma has just killed all zealots then mass Hydras. SnOw has no info anymore, guess wrong, gg. Game 3: SnOw outplayed so much soma by micro, macro, timing attack. Game 4: soma "all in" with 100000 lings but just destroyed only a gate. And then, he built a Spire, spent some redundant money by Scourge, mass Hydras like game 2. Game 5: SnOw played like game 1, it's just a real win. Game 6: soma spamed Hatchery and prevented SnOw did the same. It's fair if Hatchery's cost 400 or Nexus's cost 300, you know? I didn't see any Soma's skills better than SnOw, except how he picked his race. | ||
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barcodejester
53 Posts
It is really baffling that the premier tournament uses wildly unbalanced maps that even an amateur can tell you will be a shit show. | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3481 Posts
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Maks
Ukraine187 Posts
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oxKnu
1259 Posts
On October 26 2025 22:02 TMNT wrote: It's not "just", obviously, otherwise BTS could also ZvP his way to ASL champion too. But you don't think having the ability to kill your opponent when they have no reliable way to scout your killing move is not a massive advantage? Today, the first game is a map win for Soma, the Dominator and Polestar games are matchup advantage-based wins, only the Knockout game is a fair and square win for him. On Snow's side, the Radeon game is a fair win, and the Metropolis one is a bit of a BO advantage win for him. How can you claim Soma is a superior player when Snow is a superior player to the best Terrans, who in turn are superior to Soma himself. It's almost there's a second, determining factor that decides that merry go round I think you are bit blinded by fandom here. Soma can only play against what he is given and I assure you he will most likely be competitive in any match-up to a level higher that what Snow showed today, if you want to play that comparison game. | ||
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oxKnu
1259 Posts
On October 26 2025 23:22 Maks wrote: To me, it’s not just that Zerg are clearly stronger than Protoss — all the non-standard maps from the last few seasons are Zerg-favored too. And it’s not just Protoss struggling; Terrans are feeling the pain as well. This has been discussed many times. The rumour is the guy that has the final say on the maps is a Terran that makes sure the maps are always "safe" of anything that might bother Terran in TvZ. So basically P is left to chance each time. Sometimes it's really bad. (remember Benzene?), sometimes it's random. (like this season). | ||
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