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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22131 Posts
October 26 2025 10:57 GMT
#321
GG Soma, clearly the stronger player here.
PvZ is just so rough
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway764 Posts
October 26 2025 10:57 GMT
#322
Thats it, this game is solved. Protoss just can't beat Zerg.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8542 Posts
October 26 2025 10:57 GMT
#323
Soma is back!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13307 Posts
October 26 2025 10:57 GMT
#324
Snow always feels like he’s on the defensive and guessing vs Soma. He maybe needed to work in some awkward zealot timings like Mini to try take better charge of early game. Easier said than done.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4043 Posts
October 26 2025 10:58 GMT
#325
soma is so fucking cool. badass no bullshit pure power zerg.
Drone is a way of living
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2094 Posts
October 26 2025 10:59 GMT
#326
Well, that was probably the least interesting of Soma's all Protoss bracket run. Meh.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6815 Posts
October 26 2025 10:59 GMT
#327
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Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia426 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-26 11:01:06
October 26 2025 10:59 GMT
#328
P champions were shuttle (lol, this should not even count), rain (on P favoured maps) and mini. One!! normal P champion in 20 seasons. PvZ imbalance is death for BW
j.r.r.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1244 Posts
October 26 2025 11:01 GMT
#329
Soma was great. I was really impressed. I think with this win we can put him in the same tier with Soulkey. He has his own style but he somehow manages to make it viable in a lot of different game states. Let alone the micro and his macro ability which is top-tier. Maybe I am a bit subjective because it was just PvZ's these last few rounds, who knows..

As far as Snow goes. This last game kind of showed that he hit a wall. Clearly he couldn't control his army to the level of his opponent or make the correct decisions when the game was still close to 50/50. The way the best players of the game are round-up right now you cannot be a protoss champion with just being elite at PVP and PVT. Just not enough..
Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States694 Posts
October 26 2025 11:02 GMT
#330
bisu vs soma was the real finals sadly. fuck that island map.
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
October 26 2025 11:02 GMT
#331
On October 26 2025 19:57 Timebon3s wrote:
Thats it, this game is solved. Protoss just can't beat Zerg.

This is untrue, Snow had the lead several times.

It is UNFORGIVING, but Snow could have won this series.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6815 Posts
October 26 2025 11:03 GMT
#332
lmao so many flowers for Snow
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia936 Posts
October 26 2025 11:04 GMT
#333
There was one tactic that Bisu pulled out in his series vs Soma, that I've previously considered and I could see making a small difference in the matchup, at least in the spots that were relevant today.
The 1 sair scout after scourge are out, but before the sairs reach critical mass to roam safely.
Relying on zealots or a DT to scout at the same time...can work, but significantly lower success chance.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13307 Posts
October 26 2025 11:05 GMT
#334
[image loading]
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-26 11:05:23
October 26 2025 11:05 GMT
#335
On October 26 2025 20:02 thezanursic wrote:

but Snow could have won this series.


I have no words here. You are delusional.
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia426 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-26 11:07:09
October 26 2025 11:06 GMT
#336
Bisu won that one game after a crazy Soma throw. That's the only reason it went to g7. ZvP is imbalanced. There are so many Zs with dominant win rates. P reaching even 55% is miraculous.

User was temp banned for this post.
j.r.r.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13307 Posts
October 26 2025 11:06 GMT
#337
PvZ is hard but Bisu is of course right: skill matters most. Soma was the better player which is why he won today.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1159 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-26 11:10:09
October 26 2025 11:08 GMT
#338
On October 26 2025 20:04 Soulforged wrote:
There was one tactic that Bisu pulled out in his series vs Soma, that I've previously considered and I could see making a small difference in the matchup, at least in the spots that were relevant today.
The 1 sair scout after scourge are out, but before the sairs reach critical mass to roam safely.
Relying on zealots or a DT to scout at the same time...can work, but significantly lower success chance.


Two losses came as a direct result of his corsaies being in the wrong place at the wrong time. One time greeding for overs and missing critical info on hydra bust on time. the other being corsairs greeding for overs in the last game, giving soma the chance to jump his army plus mutas onto snow's army, while snow taking the mineral only third, and sniping templars with a hydra follow up onto the ramp. That fight cost snOw so many templars and dragoons, that he could no longer get a 4th base.
JDON MY SOUL!
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1244 Posts
October 26 2025 11:10 GMT
#339
The real winners on ASL finals day are the fans because we also get a fat online ProLeague series with all the names.

P.S: The people saying Soma is just beneficial of the match-up for this title are delusional. He clearly showed you that he is superior to his opponent in the finals.
Kespa1988
Profile Joined January 2022
72 Posts
October 26 2025 11:11 GMT
#340
I feel happy for Soma, he is really cool guy. He totally deserve this.
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