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On September 17 2025 04:55 RogerChillingworth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2025 04:09 Vasoline73 wrote:
Kind of a crazy Ro8.
I’m expecting Barracks to get rolled by Mini 4-1 but I hope I’m wrong and that it’s a close series.
All the other series seem 50/50ish to me. Maybe Bisu is favored vs Larva but it’s been a long time since he’s made a deep run in a starleague so…. we’ll see.
If you put a gun to my head…
Barracks < Mini
Snow < Effort
Soma < Best
Bisu < Larva Gun to your head and you're goin with THAT? Hope it's not loaded, brother. Agreed about Mini vs Barracks though, except I do hope Barracks gets rolled. I hope it's 4 to -1 and Mini wins every game with the first zealot. Literal steaming crater in the studio where the booth used to be. I dno about you guys but ASL keeps my mind off the end of the world. Need 3 of these a year.
Best < Soma and Larva < Bisu are probably safer choices but I’ll look cool for putting my life on the line if my original predictions play out :D. Gotta make life and death interesting…
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I think the funniest part this season is the amazing performance Speed displayed vs Hero on Roaring Currents, like pixel perfect play. Then, got beat by Larva 2-0.
TvT is such a sophisticated matchup like gentlemen firing at each other in turns. Then, Larva comes, skips pool, 3-hatches Light. LOL!
PS: damn, I'm such a genius once again. Guessing the build that won a contender.
On September 07 2025 00:10 mtcn77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2025 12:24 Simplistik wrote:
It's time for...
Match-up specific maps!
It's obviously just too difficult, maybe even impossible to design maps that work well in all six match-ups and that are balanced across the three non-mirrors.
So instead of trying to do the impossible, we could make some match-up specific maps and slowly tweak them to get the balance/playstyle right. I disagree. I said it before, mapmakers can't manipulate matchup weights. Best they can do is increase distance in which case better players exploit it better. You get impossible builds like hatchery first.
I salute Larva, though. Not even I could guess 3-hatch. Looks like the matchups are indicating that the maps are too big - like I previously indicated. Mapmakers!
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I predict PvP and ZvZ semis. I also predict SnOw vs soma Grand Final with zerg taking it 4 games to 2..
But we will see about that 
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It feels like soma's tournament to lose. Would love to see another protoss champ again, but it's hard for me to see it rn.
Light is one of those players that seems to rarely perform as well as he should offline (outside of the ASL and KSL seasons that he won lol).
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Is this some kind of inside-joke or did he just write Calm's name wrong? If s. o. could explain/translate plz. Thx
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Netherlands5129 Posts
On September 17 2025 06:48 Highgamer wrote:Is this some kind of inside-joke or did he just write Calm's name wrong? If s. o. could explain/translate plz. Thx
Not sure if high or not high enough. Anyway... That's the correct spelling.
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When in doubt, not high enough.
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Mini > Rax
Snow > Effort (if he can effectively deal with muta HT snipes)
Soma > Best (noting Soma’s love for early mutas we may get some interesting DA builds from Best).
Bisu <> Larva (I really don’t know about this one. Larva has a great grasp of this matchup, but Bisu looking really solid so far too. I think Larva will play muta heavy and we'll see how Bisu deals with it).
In summary, I expect we’ll see lots of mutas.
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Also im really impressed with how well larva is playing after being back only a short time. Making Ro8 after being gone from the scene for 2+ years is quite a feat.
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Games today were great, though Light was playing kinda strangely in TvZ. Larva showing he can clean house just as well as when he retired, the 4pool was funny af.
I'm in on Barracks making it to the finals, then losing. Gotta put my points where my heart is. The four Protosses making it from the Ro24 all the way to Ro8 is amazing, the legend of the fall is here, but I don't know if it'll pull thru for a champ even though it's been years since our last Protoss champion.
Barracks > Mini
Effort > Snow
soma > Best
Bisu > Larva
Barracks > Effort
soma > Bisu
soma > Barracks
It's soma's ASL!!! He is BACK
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I am really surprised to see only 1 Terran advancing. After group A Terran looked so strong to me I thought the race would have a better overall performance.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50389 Posts
On September 17 2025 06:48 Highgamer wrote:Is this some kind of inside-joke or did he just write Calm's name wrong? If s. o. could explain/translate plz. Thx
not really an inside joke, at least not outside TL(you'd see people say lolclam whenever he lost), but even kespa would spell Calm as Clam occasionally back in the day.
I asked Waxangel for the translation.
Clam : 'fake jaedong (soma), keep DMing me if you want to win I'll give you builds' or something like that
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Thanks, hammerman and Wax.
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On September 16 2025 23:45 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2025 23:31 RogerChillingworth wrote:On September 16 2025 23:21 LightSpectra wrote:On September 16 2025 23:05 TMNT wrote:
Expect some heated debates here next weeks since we have 3 PvZ series lol. "90% of PvZ games being a hydra bust or cannon/zealot rush fucking sucks" is what we should be talking about Definitely better than talking about balance. The map discussion is more interesting to me, though. Maps and adjusting the veto rules in tournaments. If every season we can get solid, interesting maps that encourage meta shifts and offer some cool stuff for players to chew on, I can see a lot of minor issues being solved all at once. I'm not clear how a map is supposed to discourage hydra busts without inadvertently screwing TvZ or PvT balance. Like, Pole Star is bad for hydra busting but it's fucking awful for PvT.
I wonder if matchup-specific maps would work? (would need to ban Random of course, but nobody plays that anyway).
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On September 17 2025 16:34 gravity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2025 23:45 LightSpectra wrote:On September 16 2025 23:31 RogerChillingworth wrote:On September 16 2025 23:21 LightSpectra wrote:On September 16 2025 23:05 TMNT wrote:
Expect some heated debates here next weeks since we have 3 PvZ series lol. "90% of PvZ games being a hydra bust or cannon/zealot rush fucking sucks" is what we should be talking about Definitely better than talking about balance. The map discussion is more interesting to me, though. Maps and adjusting the veto rules in tournaments. If every season we can get solid, interesting maps that encourage meta shifts and offer some cool stuff for players to chew on, I can see a lot of minor issues being solved all at once. I'm not clear how a map is supposed to discourage hydra busts without inadvertently screwing TvZ or PvT balance. Like, Pole Star is bad for hydra busting but it's fucking awful for PvT. I wonder if matchup-specific maps would work? (would need to ban Random of course, but nobody plays that anyway).
Maps are too big. Nothing can change that unless we have more 2 and 3 player maps.
PS: what was wrong with Eclipse? Perfect map! I recall every game played there last season had excellent game variation. There was the amazing siege tank runby of Light vs Tyson and other amazing base trades I forgot.
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On September 17 2025 09:30 Lazyer wrote:
Games today were great, though Light was playing kinda strangely in TvZ. Larva showing he can clean house just as well as when he retired, the 4pool was funny af.
I'm in on Barracks making it to the finals, then losing. Gotta put my points where my heart is. The four Protosses making it from the Ro24 all the way to Ro8 is amazing, the legend of the fall is here, but I don't know if it'll pull thru for a champ even though it's been years since our last Protoss champion.
Barracks > Mini
Effort > Snow
soma > Best
Bisu > Larva
Barracks > Effort
soma > Bisu
soma > Barracks
It's soma's ASL!!! He is BACK
you know only two protoss from Ro24 made it to Ro8. The other two were Ro16 seeded. Also Light didnt really play strange. Larva cheesed a fast 3rd and got away with it unpunished. That gave Larva a huge lead. Light had to play from behind and take risks or lose. Risks didnt pay off and he lost.
Mini vs Barracks will be fun but is Mini favored.
Effort over SnOw is a ballsy prediction.
Soma over best seems what everyone is predicting and I too am on this bandwagon.
Bisu seems favored vs Larva. But Larva might surprise us again.
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soma is about to enter his bonjwa phase
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I think people are writing off Best way too easily. I do think Soma is favored in that match, but I also think it'll be close.
Other than that I'm predicting protoss to win the other three ro8 matches.
Then I think Bisu is actually somewhat favored against Soma.
I think the most likely Grandfinals at this point is Snow v Bisu, with Snow taking it.
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Barracks < Mini
Effort > Snow
soma > Best
Bisu < Larva
Roast me.
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light has always been one of the most overrated terrans
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