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On September 16 2025 23:40 TMNT wrote:Show nested quote +[B]On September 16 2025 23:27 Shinokuki wrote: can't wait to prove TMNT wrong when protoss wins 2/3 next week  That's not how you prove me or anyone else wrong lol. By that same principle, you can say that since Soulkey beat Protoss multiple times to win ASL, ZvP is imba.
Soulkey winning was all him basically. He was just so much superior while other zergs failed to make it. All other zergs losing to protoss kinda proves the point. But I'm curious as to how the games will go on these maps. Probably similar to how it went for queen.
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On September 16 2025 23:45 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2025 23:31 RogerChillingworth wrote:On September 16 2025 23:21 LightSpectra wrote:On September 16 2025 23:05 TMNT wrote:
Expect some heated debates here next weeks since we have 3 PvZ series lol. "90% of PvZ games being a hydra bust or cannon/zealot rush fucking sucks" is what we should be talking about Definitely better than talking about balance. The map discussion is more interesting to me, though. Maps and adjusting the veto rules in tournaments. If every season we can get solid, interesting maps that encourage meta shifts and offer some cool stuff for players to chew on, I can see a lot of minor issues being solved all at once. I'm not clear how a map is supposed to discourage hydra busts without inadvertently screwing TvZ or PvT balance. Like, Pole Star is bad for hydra busting but it's fucking awful for PvT.
Don't you mean Knockout with the trend in front of the nat? Polestar seems like a normal map for hydra bust to me.
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Where are all the Soma-is-overrated people now?
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On September 16 2025 22:59 TMNT wrote:
Rain beat Soma in a Bo7 in his first season coming back too.
If Bisu/Larva can't knock Soma out, he'll eat the Protoss players from the other bracket. Bisu is actually the only Protoss who has a winning record (or maybe it was 50/50) against Soma so he has the best chance. Soma vs Snow is 65/35 in win rate. I think similar for Mini.
Btw, Best has no chance.
Ironically, if Bisu knocks Soma out and faces Snow/Mini in the finals, well...
I still don't see why nobody roots for Bisu the king.
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On September 17 2025 00:15 iopq wrote:
Where are all the Soma-is-overrated people now?
people must be mad for thinking Soma is overrated lmao
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On September 17 2025 00:15 iopq wrote:
Where are all the Soma-is-overrated people now?
Well Soma is definitely not overrated, its crazy to think otherwise, however, in regards to these games, he won vs I am coming from a long hiatus Lavra and I don't know what I am doing here today Light. Not exactly a very stable basis for conclusions if you ask me
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On September 17 2025 01:46 88)trAncE wrote:
Bisu will be in final
Wohoo! Bisu king will dethrone Larva in an epic battle.
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On September 17 2025 01:46 88)trAncE wrote:
Bisu will be in final
Alas... I ain't no Bisu fanboy...but let me tell you something bruh... Light's out.. when the world's dark revolutionaries shine bright.
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On September 17 2025 02:01 M2 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2025 00:15 iopq wrote:
Where are all the Soma-is-overrated people now? Well Soma is definitely not overrated, its crazy to think otherwise, however, in regards to these games, he won vs I am coming from a long hiatus Lavra and I don't know what I am doing here today Light. Not exactly a very stable basis for conclusions if you ask me
Larva has been back since November. Xun and Saiyan WAY OVERSELL their narratives to the point of almost pure fabrication. Saiyan does it less than Xun. Larva has grinded double the amount of games of the next person currently in a Ro8. He had days where he played 30-40 games vs a pro. nobody comes even close.
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Looking to Ro8 I don't think I've ever been more hyped for a match than Barracks vs Mini. It's going to be chaotic gold and I can't wait.
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This lineup is absolutely perfect for Soma. Besides Soulkey he has the best mindset when it comes to PvZ. Knows that early to mid-game is the only type of game a Z should ever play against P unless the maps are somehow absolute dogshit.
I have Snow vs Soma in the finals. It's the most likely scenario.
Snow is a PvP god so there's not much that can stand in his way if he doesn't fumble badly in PvZ. It's a PvZ so nothing's easy but I think this time around he has enough experience and the maps are also not punishing for P for once.
Both Best and Larva have no chance imo. Actually is there a way to bet on these games? I'm serious.
Bonus: Barracks is not going to be a complete walkover for Mini, far from it.
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stop it. Its Legend of the Fall bros. 4-protoss semis let's go
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4P in semis seems far fetched but 3P is very likely IF all of them perform to their level and luck doesn't play too much of a role in their series.
Mini and Snow are tier 1 while Barracks and Effort are tier 1.5
Bisu is also tier 1 but for Larva it's hard to say where he is now. When he first returned he was a bit of a punching bag for tier 1 players but it's different now. But even if he has regained his full form, he's always been the underdog to Bisu.
Best can't win a Bo7 vs Soma that's very clear.
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loved the way soma played vs light.
just forced light into a high pressure base-trade scenario every game.
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Kind of a crazy Ro8.
I’m expecting Barracks to get rolled by Mini 4-1 but I hope I’m wrong and that it’s a close series.
All the other series seem 50/50ish to me. Maybe Bisu is favored vs Larva but it’s been a long time since he’s made a deep run in a starleague so…. we’ll see.
If you put a gun to my head…
Barracks < Mini
Snow < Effort
Soma < Best
Bisu < Larva
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On September 17 2025 04:09 Vasoline73 wrote:
Kind of a crazy Ro8.
I’m expecting Barracks to get rolled by Mini 4-1 but I hope I’m wrong and that it’s a close series.
All the other series seem 50/50ish to me. Maybe Bisu is favored vs Larva but it’s been a long time since he’s made a deep run in a starleague so…. we’ll see.
If you put a gun to my head…
Barracks < Mini
Snow < Effort
Soma < Best
Bisu < Larva
Gun to your head and you're goin with THAT? Hope it's not loaded, brother.
Agreed about Mini vs Barracks though, except I do hope Barracks gets rolled. I hope it's 4 to -1 and Mini wins every game with the first zealot. Literal steaming crater in the studio where the booth used to be.
I dno about you guys but ASL keeps my mind off the end of the world. Need 3 of these a year.
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On September 17 2025 04:09 Vasoline73 wrote:
Kind of a crazy Ro8.
I’m expecting Barracks to get rolled by Mini 4-1 but I hope I’m wrong and that it’s a close series.
All the other series seem 50/50ish to me. Maybe Bisu is favored vs Larva but it’s been a long time since he’s made a deep run in a starleague so…. we’ll see.
If you put a gun to my head…
Barracks < Mini
Snow < Effort
Soma < Best
Bisu < Larva
There is the odd chance he skips templar tech, I give you that. Mini skipped upgrades and didn't skip a beat vs Ssak. So far, only Mini can pull out a "Royal" and win.
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On September 17 2025 04:55 RogerChillingworth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2025 04:09 Vasoline73 wrote:
Kind of a crazy Ro8.
I’m expecting Barracks to get rolled by Mini 4-1 but I hope I’m wrong and that it’s a close series.
All the other series seem 50/50ish to me. Maybe Bisu is favored vs Larva but it’s been a long time since he’s made a deep run in a starleague so…. we’ll see.
If you put a gun to my head…
Barracks < Mini
Snow < Effort
Soma < Best
Bisu < Larva Gun to your head and you're goin with THAT? Hope it's not loaded, brother. Agreed about Mini vs Barracks though, except I do hope Barracks gets rolled. I hope it's 4 to -1 and Mini wins every game with the first zealot. Literal steaming crater in the studio where the booth used to be. I dno about you guys but ASL keeps my mind off the end of the world. Need 3 of these a year.
Are you McAfee camp, or bitcoin camp? Moneros are the end of the world currency! Totootoo! Bitcoin is fluff.
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On September 17 2025 05:02 mtcn77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2025 04:55 RogerChillingworth wrote:On September 17 2025 04:09 Vasoline73 wrote:
Kind of a crazy Ro8.
I’m expecting Barracks to get rolled by Mini 4-1 but I hope I’m wrong and that it’s a close series.
All the other series seem 50/50ish to me. Maybe Bisu is favored vs Larva but it’s been a long time since he’s made a deep run in a starleague so…. we’ll see.
If you put a gun to my head…
Barracks < Mini
Snow < Effort
Soma < Best
Bisu < Larva Gun to your head and you're goin with THAT? Hope it's not loaded, brother. Agreed about Mini vs Barracks though, except I do hope Barracks gets rolled. I hope it's 4 to -1 and Mini wins every game with the first zealot. Literal steaming crater in the studio where the booth used to be. I dno about you guys but ASL keeps my mind off the end of the world. Need 3 of these a year. Are you McAfee camp, or bitcoin camp? Moneros are the end of the world currency! Totootoo! Bitcoin is fluff.
I'm in the find a place in the woods and read books by dead people camp.
BTW I've never seen anyone color pick white in tournament matches, or really any match. Is it banned? White's such a good color in SC. Yellow too. The one redeeming thing about Light today was that yellow Terran OH that was nasty. Was HOT. This thread is about colors now.
It also got me thinking we don't have any snow maps. I get it hurts people's eyes but what is life without a snow map. What is life at all. What is love. But srsly. Little spice...little zest. Doesn't hurt. I've got many questions. I could keep going but I'll stop now. or maybe i'll keep going..down here..in the 6 pt....Another question I have is...........WHY.....just why?? No my question is..... why is PvT so bad? ? ?? And why... is protoss so much better than zerg????
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