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Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia547 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-16 13:25:53
September 16 2025 13:24 GMT
#121
I would expect Mini, but Barracks has a chance.
Snow, at least I hope
Soma for sure
Bisu Larva is a tossup

I'll say
Mini Snow
Soma Bisu

Snow Soma

Soma

(fuck zvp)
j.r.r.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
September 16 2025 13:25 GMT
#122
I'm glad we likely get a bo7 PvP, though unsure if Mini can overcome his block against SnOw. BUT MAYBE? I believe. Cook some epic Breath of the Wild meal with like 90 ingredients then set it off in SnOw's FACE. Dude can't change diapers and win tournaments come on.
Feels like a SnOw or Mini vs soma finals. I'm not complaining.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1309 Posts
September 16 2025 13:26 GMT
#123
On September 16 2025 22:24 Rainalcar wrote:
I would expect Mini, but Barracks has a chance.
Snow, at least I hope
Soma for sure
Bisu Larva is a tossup


My Predictions:
Barracks 45/55 Mini
SnOw 60/40 EffOrt
Best 40/60 SoMa
Bisu 60/40 Larva
JDON MY SOUL!
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1751 Posts
September 16 2025 13:27 GMT
#124
In the end, there is a majority of protoss in the quarter finals.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7028 Posts
September 16 2025 13:27 GMT
#125
Barracks vs Mini i think Mini advances
Snow vs Effort is actually very dangerous for Snow LOL.
Soma vs Best Soma taking it
Bisu vs Larva. Bisu is proly very happy right now lol.


I think this ASL will go like this
Semis
Effort/Snow vs Mini
Soma vs Bisu
Final
Mini/Snow vs Soma
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3216 Posts
September 16 2025 13:28 GMT
#126
On September 16 2025 22:09 LightSpectra wrote:
I would honestly rather watch a PvP and ZvZ gauntlet than a dozen hydra bust games in a row tbh


Sigh
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia547 Posts
September 16 2025 13:28 GMT
#127
Anyone remembers protoss wining a bo7 pvz?
j.r.r.
BoesFX
Profile Joined April 2013
1466 Posts
September 16 2025 13:30 GMT
#128
On September 16 2025 22:28 Rainalcar wrote:
Anyone remembers protoss wining a bo7 pvz?

Best vs Queen
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia547 Posts
September 16 2025 13:43 GMT
#129
On September 16 2025 22:30 BoesFX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2025 22:28 Rainalcar wrote:
Anyone remembers protoss wining a bo7 pvz?

Best vs Queen


True, nice!

Hope remains while the company is true
j.r.r.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3351 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-16 14:00:33
September 16 2025 13:59 GMT
#130
Rain beat Soma in a Bo7 in his first season coming back too.

If Bisu/Larva can't knock Soma out, he'll eat the Protoss players from the other bracket. Bisu is actually the only Protoss who has a winning record (or maybe it was 50/50) against Soma so he has the best chance. Soma vs Snow is 65/35 in win rate. I think similar for Mini.

Btw, Best has no chance.

Ironically, if Bisu knocks Soma out and faces Snow/Mini in the finals, well...
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4177 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-16 14:03:15
September 16 2025 13:59 GMT
#131
On September 16 2025 22:43 Rainalcar wrote:
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On September 16 2025 22:30 BoesFX wrote:
On September 16 2025 22:28 Rainalcar wrote:
Anyone remembers protoss wining a bo7 pvz?

Best vs Queen


True, nice!

Hope remains while the company is true

Honestly, the Soulkey vs Snow and Best series (and Best vs Queen) from the last season kind of implied that is possible that maybe Protosses actually found a way to battle the Zergs in long BoX series. As someone mentioned, both of the series were 3:2 for the Protoss vs the mother fucking Soulkey with a free win zerg map in the pool. Protoss needed just 1 win out of 4 games to get a championship, however, Soulkey is Soulkey or perhaps ZvP was just ZvP. So in the next round (or couple of rounds) of the current ASL we will actually be able to see if Protosses really stabilized the match up or the last season was more of fluke.
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3351 Posts
September 16 2025 14:05 GMT
#132
Expect some heated debates here next weeks since we have 3 PvZ series lol.
pseudosignal
Profile Joined May 2025
46 Posts
September 16 2025 14:11 GMT
#133
Light just didn't want to be there today. He straight up didn't micro marines more than once and his decisions were awful. Tough season for T.
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States924 Posts
September 16 2025 14:17 GMT
#134
On September 16 2025 22:06 barcodejester wrote:
damn 1 terran in top 8. the era of zerg will continue i suppose. getting kinda boring with zerg dominating everything


Zerg dominating?? when only soulkey was able to do it and all the rounds before finals was full of toss/terrans?
Life is just life
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3216 Posts
September 16 2025 14:21 GMT
#135
On September 16 2025 23:05 TMNT wrote:
Expect some heated debates here next weeks since we have 3 PvZ series lol.


"PvZ is imbalanced" isn't even worth discussing anymore, the statistics speak for themselves.

"90% of PvZ games being a hydra bust or cannon/zealot rush fucking sucks" is what we should be talking about
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4177 Posts
September 16 2025 14:27 GMT
#136
On September 16 2025 23:21 LightSpectra wrote:
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On September 16 2025 23:05 TMNT wrote:
Expect some heated debates here next weeks since we have 3 PvZ series lol.



"90% of PvZ games being a hydra bust or cannon/zealot rush fucking sucks" is what we should be talking about

What should we talk about it? Its the only all in strat in the whole game which does not hurt the aggressor when it does not work.
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States924 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-16 14:30:44
September 16 2025 14:27 GMT
#137
On September 16 2025 23:21 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2025 23:05 TMNT wrote:
Expect some heated debates here next weeks since we have 3 PvZ series lol.


"PvZ is imbalanced" isn't even worth discussing anymore, the statistics speak for themselves.

"90% of PvZ games being a hydra bust or cannon/zealot rush fucking sucks" is what we should be talking about


PvZ is really good for P nowadays. There are so many uninformed people saying pvz imba without even playing the games themselves. Lot of zerg pros themselves think zvp is harder than zvt and sometimes feel zvp is a puzzle to still solve.

can't wait to prove TMNT wrong when protoss wins 2/3 next week

and also people saying zergs are dominating!! It's literally people who grinded who qualified into RO8.

Ever since larva came back, he's been grinding crap ton of games and laddering a lot
Ever since Effort came back, he's been participating in kleagues religiously everyday
Ever since Soma came back, he's had the most amount of games played out of all god tiers
Same goes for snow, mini, barracks

Light took a break and barely played the past 2 months. So did soulkey. Let's not discredit the grinders who put in the work and tryna blame Z IMBA for some reason lol
Life is just life
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-16 14:34:03
September 16 2025 14:31 GMT
#138
On September 16 2025 23:21 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2025 23:05 TMNT wrote:
Expect some heated debates here next weeks since we have 3 PvZ series lol.


"90% of PvZ games being a hydra bust or cannon/zealot rush fucking sucks" is what we should be talking about



Definitely better than talking about balance. The map discussion is more interesting to me, though. Maps and adjusting the veto rules in tournaments. If every season we can get solid, interesting maps that encourage meta shifts and offer some cool stuff for players to chew on, I can see a lot of minor issues being solved all at once.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3351 Posts
September 16 2025 14:40 GMT
#139
[B]On September 16 2025 23:27 Shinokuki wrote:
can't wait to prove TMNT wrong when protoss wins 2/3 next week

That's not how you prove me or anyone else wrong lol.

By that same principle, you can say that since Soulkey beat Protoss multiple times to win ASL, ZvP is imba.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-16 14:45:59
September 16 2025 14:45 GMT
#140
On September 16 2025 23:31 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2025 23:21 LightSpectra wrote:
On September 16 2025 23:05 TMNT wrote:
Expect some heated debates here next weeks since we have 3 PvZ series lol.


"90% of PvZ games being a hydra bust or cannon/zealot rush fucking sucks" is what we should be talking about



Definitely better than talking about balance. The map discussion is more interesting to me, though. Maps and adjusting the veto rules in tournaments. If every season we can get solid, interesting maps that encourage meta shifts and offer some cool stuff for players to chew on, I can see a lot of minor issues being solved all at once.


I'm not clear how a map is supposed to discourage hydra busts without inadvertently screwing TvZ or PvT balance. Like, Pole Star is bad for hydra busting but it's fucking awful for PvT.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
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