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SCRVN
Profile Joined June 2024
227 Posts
April 04 2025 15:13 GMT
#101
On April 04 2025 05:43 sas.Sziky wrote:well you are right + More pros Flash, Jaedong, Mini already said skill, practice which counts, not the race but people like TMNT think he is smarter and better than even pros.

I think you are so naive, they (pros and some good foreign players) lied to us!

FlaSh: everything is skill
Jaedong: practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future
Mini: ?

Sure, we will improve a bit but we never go through our limit, our race (Terran, Protoss). At highest level, it's always P < T < Z. From 1999 to 2019, Terran has some genius players like Boxer, Nada, FlaSh and map makers were fan of Terran who helped their idols by maps. That's why Terran can beat Zerg.

From 2019 to 3019, the time players' skill reach human's limit, Zerg always wins at the last games because Zerg is stronger than P, T.

So sad but true, we have to admit that StarCraft is not perfect like the life that we are living now and future.
starcraft remasteredvn | Other StarCraft Tournaments
sas.Sziky
Profile Joined October 2011
Hungary334 Posts
April 04 2025 15:23 GMT
#102
On April 05 2025 00:13 SCRVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2025 05:43 sas.Sziky wrote:well you are right + More pros Flash, Jaedong, Mini already said skill, practice which counts, not the race but people like TMNT think he is smarter and better than even pros.

I think you are so naive, they (pros and some good foreign players) lied to us!

FlaSh: everything is skill
Jaedong: practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future
Mini: ?

Sure, we will improve a bit but we never go through our limit, our race (Terran, Protoss). At highest level, it's always P < T < Z. From 1999 to 2019, Terran has some genius players like Boxer, Nada, FlaSh and map makers were fan of Terran who helped their idols by maps. That's why Terran can beat Zerg.

From 2019 to 3019, the time players' skill reach human's limit, Zerg always wins at the last games because Zerg is stronger than P, T.

So sad but true, we have to admit that StarCraft is not perfect like the life that we are living now and future.

you are right
I rather believe you even if you seem a bit extraterrestrial based on your comment.
SCRVN
Profile Joined June 2024
227 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-04 15:47:26
April 04 2025 15:43 GMT
#103
On April 03 2025 07:05 Expensive-Law-9830 wrote:Bro dismissed a great comeback play and started balance whine out of nowhere lmao.

We love comeback play in Sport, eSport and life but do you know why some players, teams can comeback some games? I can show you now, because they are really stronger than their opponents. Brazil can turn the tables on Vietnam in football, Rafael Nadal can turn the tables on Nguyen Minh Tien in Tennis. FlaSh can turn the tables on every player in the his peak.

Zerg usually behind to their opponents all time, they can comeback play easily in 1-2 minutes and win quickly! That's one of the ways lead 100/200 Zerg can beat 200/200 Terran, Protoss.
starcraft remasteredvn | Other StarCraft Tournaments
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26983 Posts
April 04 2025 16:21 GMT
#104
On April 04 2025 23:59 mtcn77 wrote:
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On April 02 2025 21:39 Peeano wrote:
Who woulda thought on the final game of group F we'd get a treat like this.
Action is sooo good. From the longest 2 base all in still managing to secure a 3rd and 4th through sheer better multitasking.

I think we are past this current nonsense FE play.
Both Hero and Action showed early zerg can stick to two base. This is what I argued, also. Bases are a huge expense with no checks if you will have to defend against early game skirmishes which turn them into deficit spending investments. I think I hit the nail on the head with that one. I might pursue further where the deadline shifts happen when expanding bases. For instance, I thought extractor trick didn't do much, but in fact nets as much as 16 seconds.
It might come across as I'm hopeful, but I'm actually hesitant. The game was zerg unfavoured back in 2000s when FEs weren't the norm. This will favour terrans and protosses more than the zerg.

What on Earth are you talking about?

Players still FE-d in those games.

Action only stayed in the game against sSak because sSak did a huge move-out to snipe a non-existent third and Action sniped a fuckton of his SCVs and forced a natural lift.

Just bizarre analysis
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey715 Posts
April 04 2025 16:41 GMT
#105
On April 05 2025 01:21 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2025 23:59 mtcn77 wrote:
On April 02 2025 21:39 Peeano wrote:
Who woulda thought on the final game of group F we'd get a treat like this.
Action is sooo good. From the longest 2 base all in still managing to secure a 3rd and 4th through sheer better multitasking.

I think we are past this current nonsense FE play.
Both Hero and Action showed early zerg can stick to two base. This is what I argued, also. Bases are a huge expense with no checks if you will have to defend against early game skirmishes which turn them into deficit spending investments. I think I hit the nail on the head with that one. I might pursue further where the deadline shifts happen when expanding bases. For instance, I thought extractor trick didn't do much, but in fact nets as much as 16 seconds.
It might come across as I'm hopeful, but I'm actually hesitant. The game was zerg unfavoured back in 2000s when FEs weren't the norm. This will favour terrans and protosses more than the zerg.

What on Earth are you talking about?

Players still FE-d in those games.

Action only stayed in the game against sSak because sSak did a huge move-out to snipe a non-existent third and Action sniped a fuckton of his SCVs and forced a natural lift.

Just bizarre analysis

I think it is a clash of cultures. It isn't the first time t and p players have not understood our perspective, yet we win regardless.
Turrican
Artas1984
Profile Joined August 2018
149 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-08 18:09:33
April 08 2025 18:08 GMT
#106
On April 02 2025 21:01 Giovanni8 wrote:
Ysc deserved my respect.


He will not get my respect coming to the studio with that ridiculous gay ass pinky Ken shirt instead of proper ASL sports jacket and wearing slippers, instead of sport shoes. I would ban his ass from the studio if i was the organizer/host or main sponsor for disrespecting the dress code like that. The same with Shuttle.

User was warned for this post.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
April 09 2025 17:06 GMT
#107
On April 09 2025 03:08 Artas1984 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2025 21:01 Giovanni8 wrote:
Ysc deserved my respect.


He will not get my respect coming to the studio with that ridiculous gay ass pinky Ken shirt instead of proper ASL sports jacket and wearing slippers, instead of sport shoes. I would ban his ass from the studio if i was the organizer/host or main sponsor for disrespecting the dress code like that. The same with Shuttle.

User was warned for this post.

Savage.



TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1115 Posts
April 10 2025 03:08 GMT
#108
On April 09 2025 03:08 Artas1984 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2025 21:01 Giovanni8 wrote:
Ysc deserved my respect.


He will not get my respect coming to the studio with that ridiculous gay ass pinky Ken shirt instead of proper ASL sports jacket and wearing slippers, instead of sport shoes. I would ban his ass from the studio if i was the organizer/host or main sponsor for disrespecting the dress code like that. The same with Shuttle.

User was warned for this post.



Hahahahahaha a+

I thought you over reacted, but i had to see it myself.
I was not disappointed.

lol
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1156 Posts
April 10 2025 03:26 GMT
#109
someone being warned for that instead of the 1941552905th unoriginal balance whine is honestly lame
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