EPTI said Zerg is the best race but no one believes on me
[ASL17] Semifinal B - Page 10
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bovienchien
Vietnam1152 Posts
I said Zerg is the best race but no one believes on me | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13304 Posts
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orth0dox
28 Posts
I'd about about you guys, but i would gladly prefer one good series instead of bunch of mediocre ones. Soulkey delivered just that and i'm grateful for him. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6810 Posts
On April 16 2024 22:02 bovienchien wrote: If the final has 3 players, we will have 3 zergs I said Zerg is the best race but no one believes on me No doubt not one believes you. Your map taste is terrible  LOL. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13304 Posts
Protoss killer. | ||
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Highways
Australia6105 Posts
On April 16 2024 22:05 RowdierBob wrote: Pretty sick run from SK this ASL. Has now taken out Snow, Mini and Bisu. Protoss killer. Isn't every Zerg a Protoss killer? | ||
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kodecopas
Peru17 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13304 Posts
I’m waiting for the next JD balance whine :D | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6810 Posts
It was cool to see Soulkey bring such an old school strategy on Citadel. I didnt see that build since 2010-2011. the fake hydra bust but with a main as backup. That said the hold he made was incredible. I wonder if Snow attacked too fast ? i really wonder if with more dragoon support and high templars and 4 reavers. ( Nony style vs Mondragon in TSL 2 finals ) could have been really scary for SK but it is what it is. Im honestly surprised the game on troy ended that way. I myself have played vs Snow and doing the exact same build and he defended way better that situation. Im pretty sure he played Soma that build countless times and beat it aswell. I think the biggest difference is that he didnt make many zealots this time to tank and to block to make time for canons to finish. Actually is true he made 2 canons in the main. Guess he was aware of a ling drop after game 1 ? He even made a dragoon so make me think he wanted to be prepared for that situation of game 1. Last game Soulkey took a far expansion again. I wonder what the plan was. I think he played reactive after getting 5 lings inside the main. Dunno why Snow didnt close the wall but well. Sad way to end the series if you are a toss fan. Another season where Snow is the top player in the world but cant really make it to the ASL final. Now Hero vs Soulkey i think Hero is the big favorite. Better muta control. Better builds for zvz. We will see if SK can fight that. Always that there is a mirror final it leaves 2 of the races fans with this arguments. In the case of zvz i wonder if they could reach a gentleman agreement to make it more interesting. Maybe 2 island maps ? maybe 1 game where you are forced to not use Mutalisk /Scourge. But you can use Guardians devours ? It doesnt really grants a sure thing for a hive tech game but the chances are higher. Anyway is crazy that the only 2 zergs that advanced to Ro8 are in the Final LOL. Next season Mappool gonna be scary. | ||
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BulgarianToss
Bulgaria490 Posts
On April 16 2024 20:44 BLinD-RawR wrote: This game is a must for anyone that loves PvZ. 30 minutes after the mid game constant nail-biting battles around the map where every time you would think Soulkey's macro advantage is too much for Snow and every time that assumption is just wrong. Snow's shuttle reaver micro is in another universe compared to anything anyone else is doing, unbelievable control. If it was any other protoss in this situation the game would have been over maybe 20 minutes earlier with a clear winner in Soulkey, just waiting for the tap out. Amazing game! | ||
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foxmeep
Australia2337 Posts
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
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Shinokuki
United States923 Posts
On April 16 2024 23:21 foxmeep wrote: There's a reason why Snow's ZvP is <40% guys.... Oh lord, the whining from 1500 ~ 1700 mmr protoss begins! Deducing that zvp is imba just from ASL games and not on 1000+ games online. There's a reason why JD whined because online proleagues are major source of income and you can't ALL IN all the time in zvp when you're playing 1000+ games rather than 10~20 games. Notice how 8/10 were all ins. Zerg has to all in to beat protoss. If it goes standard protoss wins. SK held it through with his superior mentality and better gambling strategy. | ||
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Shinokuki
United States923 Posts
Below 50% win rate for zvp for this map pool with 37% rate @ blitz. Zerg is just a strong tourney race but gets severely weakened online which is the bigger issue because online proleagues/tourneys are the biggest source of income for them. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On April 16 2024 21:35 BLinD-RawR wrote: here we go more bullshit. I blame you for this ZvZ final just saying. | ||
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Weasel-
Canada1556 Posts
And SoulKey kinda outplayed himself there in the Neo Dark Origin game, after defending the cannon rush he still went for his prepared allin and it cost him. | ||
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townhouse
United States27 Posts
On Citadel, SK went for a 2nd main base immediately, signaling he wouldn't mind another macro game, and Snow responded with speed lot timing into reaver bust timing - signaling he would. Same thing on Radeon, except Snow responded with extra greed, refusing to put down a cannon in order to gain an econ advantage early and avoid the hive tech hell zerg later, only for SK to notice this and punish his greed. Yet Snow's late game PvZ is actually one of his strengths, and his valiant effort on Blitz Y showed this. I think if he had the mental to be encouraged instead of discouraged by that game, things could have gone differently. Of course Troy was just a pure mind game YOLO from SK. | ||
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XenOsky
Chile2316 Posts
EXACTLY | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50631 Posts
On April 16 2024 23:50 Necro)Phagist( wrote: I blame you for this ZvZ final just saying. Snow was always the better bet over sharp. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On April 17 2024 01:25 BLinD-RawR wrote: Snow was always the better bet over sharp. I know but I need someone to blame for this travesty now so I'm using you as the scapegoat xD | ||
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