On April 16 2024 22:08 kodecopas wrote: no Last no Flash no Fantasy = Zerg dominance
I always said be careful what you wish for; that when Flash leaves, enjoy ur ZvZ finals. Only just started watching ASL again; and when I looked up past results, I was very surprised we got three Terran champs after Flash left. And two of them were TvT finals no less. I couldn’t believe it. And it seems like I’m not the only one. Tastosis mentioned that we’re now “back to a normal state” where “the players expected to win are winning”; and iirc they specifically mentioned the JyJ and Royal championships. No offense to JyJ, but can someone explain what the heck happened?
JYJ and Royal both had their fair share of luck by playing only (mostly?) TvZ until the finals. To be fair they did play very well in those seasons but since then they haven't been able to retain the form.
On April 22 2024 03:52 TMNT wrote: JYJ and Royal both had their fair share of luck by playing only (mostly?) TvZ until the finals. To be fair they did play very well in those seasons but since then they haven't been able to retain the form.
Yeah, neither of their tournament wins felt "deserved" the way Soulkeys did last season or mini, Larva, Light or Queens victories prior.
They are great players and had a great tournament, but felt a little bit "lucky" in a lot of ways.
On April 16 2024 22:08 kodecopas wrote: no Last no Flash no Fantasy = Zerg dominance
I always said be careful what you wish for; that when Flash leaves, enjoy ur ZvZ finals. Only just started watching ASL again; and when I looked up past results, I was very surprised we got three Terran champs after Flash left. And two of them were TvT finals no less. I couldn’t believe it. And it seems like I’m not the only one. Tastosis mentioned that we’re now “back to a normal state” where “the players expected to win are winning”; and iirc they specifically mentioned the JyJ and Royal championships. No offense to JyJ, but can someone explain what the heck happened?
JYJ and Royal both had their fair share of luck by playing only (mostly?) TvZ until the finals. To be fair they did play very well in those seasons but since then they haven't been able to retain the form.
JyJ was a bit fortunate I think, but both players still had pretty hard knock-out routes. RoyaL was probably just the best player at that time. He even carried on dominating for a bit afterwards, in KCM etc. For about three months he looked almost unplayble. Since then he's been good, but a little of the magic seems to have vanished. JyJ never made it to that level I think.
On April 16 2024 22:08 kodecopas wrote: no Last no Flash no Fantasy = Zerg dominance
I always said be careful what you wish for; that when Flash leaves, enjoy ur ZvZ finals. Only just started watching ASL again; and when I looked up past results, I was very surprised we got three Terran champs after Flash left. And two of them were TvT finals no less. I couldn’t believe it. And it seems like I’m not the only one. Tastosis mentioned that we’re now “back to a normal state” where “the players expected to win are winning”; and iirc they specifically mentioned the JyJ and Royal championships. No offense to JyJ, but can someone explain what the heck happened?
JYJ and Royal both had their fair share of luck by playing only (mostly?) TvZ until the finals. To be fair they did play very well in those seasons but since then they haven't been able to retain the form.
JyJ was a bit fortunate I think, but both players still had pretty hard knock-out routes. RoyaL was probably just the best player at that time. He even carried on dominating for a bit afterwards, in KCM etc. For about three months he looked almost unplayble. Since then he's been good, but a little of the magic seems to have vanished. JyJ never made it to that level I think.
JyJ lost the fire. He's been less active and plays much less since his win. Before and leading up to his win he was grinding. Royal very much was the best Terran for a short bit. He was innovating, his mechanics were crazy, his playstyle was high risk high reward. I think Royal's style has been figured out and the maps just aren't his vibe. Next Map pool might very much be nice for him.
On April 16 2024 22:08 kodecopas wrote: no Last no Flash no Fantasy = Zerg dominance
I always said be careful what you wish for; that when Flash leaves, enjoy ur ZvZ finals. Only just started watching ASL again; and when I looked up past results, I was very surprised we got three Terran champs after Flash left. And two of them were TvT finals no less. I couldn’t believe it. And it seems like I’m not the only one. Tastosis mentioned that we’re now “back to a normal state” where “the players expected to win are winning”; and iirc they specifically mentioned the JyJ and Royal championships. No offense to JyJ, but can someone explain what the heck happened?
Yeah, I was surprised as well that 3 Terrans won post FlaSh. Terrans used to say their race isn't good, just FlaSh is good. Then other Terrans won a bunch of ASLs and you don't hear that argument so much anymore.
Terran is the best race when there is a lot of time to prepare for specific maps and opponents in my opinion and this is where the BW arguable imbalances come from. I believe that we would've had completely different results if the tournaments were fast paced with several series per day with unknown opponents. It doesnt mean it would have been better or more balanced, but it would have been very different
However, since the game is pretty balance even like this, I would assume that we would have more even titles distribution between the races if we had "fast" tournaments
On April 24 2024 00:05 TMNT wrote: By the way Troy has now been removed from the map pool of Proleague. I guess Shinokuki can be less concerned about Zerg players wellfare now.
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