EPTBut seriously, at least Stork owned up to dropping games at WCG. They should too.
[IEST] Hwasin and Calm: Attempt@Psuedo-Journalism. - Page 2
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strongwind
United States862 Posts
But seriously, at least Stork owned up to dropping games at WCG. They should too. | ||
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sushiman
Sweden2691 Posts
On October 23 2007 07:34 FoBBish wrote: A: im going to kick your leg. so block your leg. B: ok, ill block my leg. B blocks face, A kicks leg. B: thought you were tricking me and kicking my head.  Exactly my thought as well. Tell the same thing a second time and your opponent will be even more suspicious. That's exactly what mind games are, not just plain lying as some people here seem to think... I wouldn't even care if they rigged it, it was an unimportant tournament anyway and both got to the final easily. Offer better competition and the players might actually care. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On October 23 2007 07:35 ambit!ous1 wrote: If the games were fixed it was probably done before the match. What idiot would chat like that when thousands of people are watching. Its just plain and simple. except for the fact that they chatted like that in front of thousands of people is the one thing that isnt questionable, theres proof of that. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On October 23 2007 07:51 sushiman wrote: That's completely illogical. If the competition was terrible and the two players had an easy run to the finals, then that final bo5 should be the only time they find themselves with worthy competition, thus should be the only time they actually need to try hard.Exactly my thought as well. Tell the same thing a second time and your opponent will be even more suspicious. That's exactly what mind games are, not just plain lying as some people here seem to think... I wouldn't even care if they rigged it, it was an unimportant tournament anyway and both got to the final easily. Offer better competition and the players might actually care. Instead as we saw, #1 they treated it like an exhibition and didn't try hard (the players admitted this) and #2 the likely rigging. | ||
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ambit!ous1
United States3662 Posts
On October 23 2007 07:52 IdrA wrote: except for the fact that they chatted like that in front of thousands of people is the one thing that isnt questionable, theres proof of that. Yea I saw the video What I meant was it was just an mind trick. Most progamers do this often right before the game. So many noobs just dont understand the mind games of progamers. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Seriously not cool. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On October 23 2007 07:58 ambit!ous1 wrote: Yea I saw the video What I meant was it was just an mind trick. Most progamers do this often right before the game. So many noobs just dont understand the mind games of progamers. ... yes before every game one opponent lays out his build order, the other says "ok" and proceeds to do a counter build twice in a row. those clever progamers. | ||
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hixhix
1156 Posts
On October 23 2007 07:58 ambit!ous1 wrote: Yea I saw the video What I meant was it was just an mind trick. Most progamers do this often right before the game. So many noobs just dont understand the mind games of progamers. Can you idiotic noob stop posting ? | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On October 23 2007 07:58 ambit!ous1 wrote: Yea I saw the video What I meant was it was just an mind trick. Most progamers do this often right before the game. So many noobs just dont understand the mind games of progamers. Are you being serious? | ||
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Tadzio
3340 Posts
Edit: on that front, do our korean members have any developing news from Korean websites? | ||
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wakpark
United States173 Posts
the fighter forum article it looks like they're saying it was just lighthearted mind games. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia12799 Posts
What we call rigging, they call mind games. You can't prove otherwise so I think everyone should JLIG and move on. | ||
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Sadist
United States7159 Posts
Calm is a pussy if he really rigged the matches, he has no heart for not wanting to win that when hes in the finals. Dont invite them anymore, if they really rigged it they wont be good players for long anyway, their desire will fade away and theyll start to suck when they face some adversity. | ||
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Day[9]
United States7366 Posts
i've done this kind of talk to friends before i understand the freakout of the community, but everyone should just let 'em go imo. i highly doubt they rigged IEST when they are BOTH in the finals? i mean it just doens't make any sense | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia12799 Posts
Yes it happened and it shows a lack of respect to the tournament, but as everything in life there's a difference between knowing the truth and proving the truth. Just unofficially exclude Hwasin and Calm from future foreigner tournies like these and hope to avoid a similar situation. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Even if they deny it forever that is fine, the disrespect they have shown is enough to AT LEAST do as RowdierBob suggested, ban them from future events and plan for a better tomorrow. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia12799 Posts
On October 23 2007 08:51 {88}iNcontroL wrote: You can find the truth actually. You compile evidence / lean on them with community support and eventually the truth is squeezed out. Even if they deny it forever that is fine, the disrespect they have shown is enough to AT LEAST do as RowdierBob suggested, ban them from future events and plan for a better tomorrow. Your version of the truth is different to theirs though. What you call rigging they call mind games and you cannot prove this otherwise. I'm not saying the games weren't rigged becasue I believe they were, but it something the community cannot prove short of Hwasin and Calm admitting it themselves. Take Davydenko in the tennis for example. Everyone knows he was tanking games as part of that betting scandal, but they can't prove it. | ||
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