EPT[IEST] Hwasin and Calm: Attempt@Psuedo-Journalism. - Page 8
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LosingID8
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On October 24 2007 02:36 starscrapper wrote: In east asian launage middle and center are the same word same meaning. Chinese character: 中 ahah this made me laugh seriously | ||
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haduken
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starscrapper
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On October 23 2007 23:00 starscrapper wrote: Basher down on your knees article below written in Chinese: 关于IEST2007决赛说说我的看法 第1 局 monty hall HWASIN 先于12点钟裸2基后用1BB堵住中间的路口可以防止Z PLAYER DRONE于T路口采矿，在T初期MARINE少的情况下被一波RUSH。出到4个MRINE则可完全排除上述被破口的可能即便12点被偷袭则可以LIFT完工的COMMAND CENTER 飞至另一9点钟分矿处运营且主基地左侧有水晶届时有充裕的MARINE，防住后则Z PLAYER 基本无翻盘的可能。HWASIN的开局是无懈可击，这图倒是ZERG有被T于路口采矿（初期无远程兵种防止SCV这一行为）后VULTURE RUSH的可能。所以T是无需探路的但Z必需依靠OVERLORD 侦查以便防止T上述的这种行为。此盘OVERLORD 得知T 1BB放下的时间大胆地极限MACRO。回顾一下VOD吧 T 和 Z的MACRO都是顶尖水平的，是在这图上T V Z 的巅峰对决。这样精彩的比赛是你在韩国职业联赛MSL OSL上都未见到的。这盘T针对Z的策略也选择了极限MACRO并速机械化，注意传统打法遇Z 这种开局3 个矿区无法同时有效地抵制MUTA骚扰的。 于是你们中国星际职业解说应该用PC 为HWASIN AND CALM作一档 MONTY HALL T VS Z终极对决后发布在TEAMLIQUID.NET上。SAVE 下的REPLAY 也能在国际上卖个天价。 第2 局 python 2BB EXPO 对IPX拖把流已有定论无需多谈。科技球被撞不要紧的只要“及时”推到Z的2基地处利用SCIENCE VESSEL为COMSAT省下的能量，扫光Z 主矿的建筑 Z 不打GG 评论员也得GG。 第3 局 longnius 上盘 PYTHON 主基地口还有高地优势都被溜ZERGLING了呀?! LONGNIUS 11点钟路口平坦宽敞无险可守。评论员是打Z的吧?! 遇到T于11点钟方位不堵口的1BB 2BASE T 不GG 谁GG? 第4局 tau cross 野兵营被探到的可能性有多大呢？若未4D 5D就算是探到了的话别说是12 POOL 连9 POOL 都要GG的呀这和MONTY HALL上 Z 前期无远程兵种防止T SCV 采矿破Z的口一样的呀。只不过T 很BS地堵住了一窝小畜生的口，小狗崽子顶着MARINE 们正义的MACHIEN GUN咬BS 2 SCV不断给修理修理Z会有前途哇啦？真是想不明白这种TAU CROSS 上 T V Z绝杀开局咋地在韩国职业MSL OSL没见到过呢？REPLAY 能卖多少RMB呢? 第5局 python 这图哎！ 2 个OVERLORD能探2 个出生点中间用ZERGLING预警T MARINE压上立即码SUNKEN，很高明的打法呀。咋地偏偏遇上了野兵营大招了呢？ orignal post from here http://www.playsc.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=77442&extra=page=1 above article is the count abuse against this thread http://www.playsc.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=77118&extra=page=1 article below in Chinese 关于IEST2007决赛说说我的看法 第1 局 monty hall 双方开局都不探路我就觉得奇怪了，特别是人族不探路我更是不能理解！机械化？机械化是建立在前期骚扰的基础上。而虫族更是可笑之极只作1个莫名其妙的地堡！前期在没有任何侦察的情况下 没有做半条狗！这还不假？如果观察仔细的就会发现我在最后一句话都没说因为我基本上已经确定这是假赛了。再外加双方都没有看rep！这个不是一个职业选手的习惯吧？花生输掉比赛连看都没看，calm还看了下意思了下，但是是16X 。我和cc 说了一下，cc觉得也很奇怪于是拿了一只笔，记下他们聊天的东西。 第2 局 python 近点这场比赛应该说是比较精彩的。前期一个莫名其妙的房子。就算了。花生拉了5个农民下来给8个狗流进去。这是花生么？这盘我就不说假不假了因为中期虫族应该是发挥了自己的全部实力了。但是花生的发挥就很值得怀疑了，中期被撞了好几个科技球。这个都算作失误好了。 第3 局 longnius 貌似这场是这几场比赛当中最精彩的。但是也是漏洞最多的。从开局来看。花生使用的是2bb 转科技。敢问这图哪个韩国职业人族选手使用这套打法？中期使用的是 2bb 转速tank 一波流。应该说中期打还是没有什么问题。 但是换家这个我觉得花生是故意的。因为作为职业选手不可能不知道对方会绕路，出门门口都不做地堡的。自己却还是执意的去进攻对手。而被绕路以后我ob 视角没看到多少东西。因为都在注意前线。但是回去我发现农民没几个了。不到8个的飞龙和1队狗杀了几乎2矿的农民，这个难道不是问题？之后换家的场面似乎让我们看到了韩国职业玩家冷静的头脑，知道自己会输了当然很冷静。 第4局 tau cross 这局之前我看到了，他们打了这几个字 “8B”“Center Barracks”。 看完以后我全明白了。花生之后果然在地图中央8bb了。韩国可能只叫8b 但是应该就是这个意思了。看看这场比赛，calm很冷静的取消了基地，之后也很冷静补了农民 但是最后在已经得知对手发展路线以后却很不冷静的去开矿并且龙塔还不愿意第一时间摆下去。而且看到人族很多枪兵+护士压过来只造了1个地刺？好的这里我彻彻底底的明白了。绝对的假赛。 第5局 python 好开始他们打了 前面一串韩语 后面跟着一句2兵营之后,，然后还有一句“All Drone 1 Sunken”，很明显是赛前商量怎么打。 我和CC说了这个真的是一场表演赛，绝对的表演赛。想必也有人听见了。比赛开始前面韩语应该表示的就是一个家里一个外面的意思2兵营。之后一波火花带走了。前期虫族又是没探路。我还说他好嚣张。 但是貌似整场比赛大师都很满足的欣赏着韩国选手在打。我不忍心告诉他。但是之后好多人都看到了第一视角我决定还是出来说一下比较好。更不忍心看到的是玩家们对一场漏洞百出的假赛还津津乐道在讨论。最让我生气的其实还是花生打JayStar那场，花生明知点气矿穿矿是在韩国联赛被禁止的Bug，然而却仍然对JayStar使用，应该说为了获胜不择手段。虽然最后的比赛发生了一些不愉快的事情，但是整体感觉比赛还是办的不错的，希望大家还是一如既往的支持IEST，支持星际。中国星际Fighting！ Flock open your mind against that racism nerd | ||
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.dragoon
United States749 Posts
On October 23 2007 20:37 minus_human wrote: YOU have to understand something: I did not state at any moment what the ABSOLUTE TRUTH is, I just expressed my personal conviction regarding a conflict where neither of the opposing sides have the final, death blowing argument. My personal conviction may be or may be not true, only lesser intelligent people may take it as something absolute, when I specifically said it's a personal point of view. You still don't get it? Your faith-based conviction means NOTHING in the face of glaring evidence. Ah, HotBid already got it covered I see. This guy's hilarious!  Hey buddy, we agree with you you fool! It ain't racism now stop ruining this thread with untranslated stuff! | ||
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zulu_nation8
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.dragoon
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It should at least be archived with the other tourney threads. | ||
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
On October 24 2007 04:36 zulu_nation8 wrote: The summary in Chinese was written by Toodoming who was one of the commentators at the match. He basically said he saw the text and that it was clearly rigged, and how it was stupid Hwasin used the scv bug but didn't get punished. Anyways unforunately this thread again degrades into a believer vs non-believer thread. Mind as well close this Which SCV bug, the cargo one that made forgg banned against nal_ra third game? | ||
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davidgurt
United States1355 Posts
"at the end the replay tells hwasin vs jaystar jaystar was use all in dt rush and one goon block ramp jaystar was gonna 2-1 hwasin but hwasin use gasbug to scout so it is true" | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
On October 24 2007 04:56 il0seonpurpose wrote: Which SCV bug, the cargo one that made forgg banned against nal_ra third game? What exactly does the bug do? scv passing units blocking ramp without having scouted the base? | ||
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zulu_nation8
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davidgurt
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On October 24 2007 05:05 haduken wrote: What exactly does the bug do? scv passing units blocking ramp without having scouted the base? yes. anyone confirm hwasin use illegal gas trick? | ||
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IdrA
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sohee_pink
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Tadzio
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On October 24 2007 08:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Yeah, post the vid of it happening before posting such accusations. The video gas bug is attached to the end of the game5 youtube vid in the OP of this thread. It happens in the last 20 seconds. | ||
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