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LpTraxamillion
Profile Joined October 2020
265 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-09 10:53:47
March 09 2022 10:47 GMT
#41
Now that was even way more of a clown game than the last one. At least a nice decisive move by Soma.

What is this group so far?
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-09 10:49:00
March 09 2022 10:48 GMT
#42
On March 09 2022 19:47 EquilasH wrote:
Only getting 3 cannons after scouting 3hatch hydra seems like a strange decision but I guess it's hard to know how much Zerg will commit.

It's just wrong imo. He needs 5 cannons minimum unless he knows the exact drone count. He saw the hydra and there is no reason to see a hydra that early unless its for attacking.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
March 09 2022 10:48 GMT
#43
Group of death, more like everyone is suffering from a lack of breath, get some O2 stat.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-09 10:49:04
March 09 2022 10:48 GMT
#44
On March 09 2022 19:48 Sirris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2022 19:47 EquilasH wrote:
Only getting 3 cannons after scouting 3hatch hydra seems like a strange decision but I guess it's hard to know how much Zerg will commit.

It's just wrong imo. He needs 5 cannons minimum unless he knows the exact drone count.

Yeah, I've never seen a pro stay on 3 cannons after scouting 3Hatch Hydra before so it probably is just a mistake.
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Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
March 09 2022 10:49 GMT
#45
On March 09 2022 19:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Group of death, more like everyone is suffering from a lack of breath, get some O2 stat.

Group of death from autoerotic asphyxiation
LpTraxamillion
Profile Joined October 2020
265 Posts
March 09 2022 10:52 GMT
#46
On March 09 2022 19:47 EquilasH wrote:
Only getting 3 cannons after scouting 3hatch hydra seems like a strange decision but I guess it's hard to know how much Zerg will commit.


He hardly even committed though, that was basic 9-7-3 into drone not all in. He should have had an extra cannon or 2 warping in just in case but he spent the money on the proxy.

Most important thing though was he just failed to block the choke and he slipped hydras over the top of the wall so they could get much more attack surface on the cannons. He could have held with 3 cannon at that time if it wasn't for that. Wall goes down to hydra and they go into macro game
LpTraxamillion
Profile Joined October 2020
265 Posts
March 09 2022 10:53 GMT
#47
On March 09 2022 19:48 Sirris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2022 19:47 EquilasH wrote:
Only getting 3 cannons after scouting 3hatch hydra seems like a strange decision but I guess it's hard to know how much Zerg will commit.

It's just wrong imo. He needs 5 cannons minimum unless he knows the exact drone count. He saw the hydra and there is no reason to see a hydra that early unless its for attacking.


Yea he should have at the very least had them warping in as the 1st hydra arrived. Had he built the proxy building at that point or just the pylon?
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-09 10:55:25
March 09 2022 10:54 GMT
#48
On March 09 2022 19:52 LpTraxamillion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2022 19:47 EquilasH wrote:
Only getting 3 cannons after scouting 3hatch hydra seems like a strange decision but I guess it's hard to know how much Zerg will commit.


He hardly even committed though, that was basic 9-7-3 into drone not all in. He should have had an extra cannon or 2 warping in just in case but he spent the money on the proxy.

Most important thing though was he just failed to block the choke and he slipped hydras over the top of the wall so they could get much more attack surface on the cannons. He could have held with 3 cannon at that time if it wasn't for that. Wall goes down to hydra and they go into macro game

The fact is you make 5 cannons period. I'm an old man. But even back in my day if we saw a hydra that early you make 5 cannons. Its possible you cancel the 5th cannon but damn. Of course Best is a million times better than me literally but i just don't understand seeing that hydra and not being scared to death. There is no reason to see a hydra there. It's way too early to just be for denying sair. Maybe that's what Best thought though.
LpTraxamillion
Profile Joined October 2020
265 Posts
March 09 2022 10:56 GMT
#49
Maybe he saw shuttle make 7 in a somewhat similar spot the other day in group b then get picked apart. 5 cannon in the middle does sound good
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
March 09 2022 10:56 GMT
#50
I'll need someone to make polls again, I won't be able to watch from here on out.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
March 09 2022 10:58 GMT
#51
On March 09 2022 19:53 LpTraxamillion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2022 19:48 Sirris wrote:
On March 09 2022 19:47 EquilasH wrote:
Only getting 3 cannons after scouting 3hatch hydra seems like a strange decision but I guess it's hard to know how much Zerg will commit.

It's just wrong imo. He needs 5 cannons minimum unless he knows the exact drone count. He saw the hydra and there is no reason to see a hydra that early unless its for attacking.


Yea he should have at the very least had them warping in as the 1st hydra arrived. Had he built the proxy building at that point or just the pylon?

Making a proxy building at that point means he missed the danger he was in. He didn't get the situation. I really think Best might have thought the hydra he saw was to deny sair damage. I think that was a huge mistake but I can understand that. It's easy for someone like me to say Best played bad. I can see the map and I'm much worse. But ...he did play bad
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
March 09 2022 10:59 GMT
#52
HOLY SHIT CANNON RUSH FROM BISU
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-09 11:03:31
March 09 2022 11:00 GMT
#53
Wtf is Soma doing? Holy shit.....such a crazy response from Soma. He did indeed have his own way of countering the cannon rush. I've never seen a zerg power through a pylon with drones only than hit the cannon with drones and make it happen.
LpTraxamillion
Profile Joined October 2020
265 Posts
March 09 2022 11:01 GMT
#54
Never seen that photon cannon defense that way before that was sick
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
March 09 2022 11:03 GMT
#55
Bisu is in deep shit this game. 25 to 29 z to p. Thats not what you want to see early game. I hope Bisu can pull some magic to make this game awesome
Katkishka
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States660 Posts
March 09 2022 11:03 GMT
#56
That went disastrously, but damn, that would've been sick if that worked out.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-09 11:06:01
March 09 2022 11:04 GMT
#57
Bisu might hold this!
He will hold this I think but he will behind overall.
Yes indeed bisu will hold but it slowed all of bisu's production. Zerg will be almost even in production. I don't think the game is even. I think Soma is quite ahead.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-09 11:07:50
March 09 2022 11:07 GMT
#58
Soma just needs to flood the high ground near Bisu's 2nd base with lurkers while teching defiler and taking the third.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
March 09 2022 11:08 GMT
#59
Here it comes. He will hold that high ground near the natural.
Katkishka
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States660 Posts
March 09 2022 11:08 GMT
#60
Bisu's army is tiny compared to Soma's, I think this game's basically over, RIP
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