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winner holds, loser folds.

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cool strat, always fun to see a game like this

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Zetter
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Germany629 Posts
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#81
Pretty disappointing games today tbh
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February 08 2022 11:42 GMT
#82
Shuttle ftw!
If it was best i think he would lose to this type of all in...
Good ! Best and Shuttle made it !
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February 08 2022 11:42 GMT
#83
wow a Ro24 Group A that wasn't cursed with unexpected results, nature is healing.
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M3t4PhYzX
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Poland4300 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-08 12:01:45
February 08 2022 11:46 GMT
#84
damn this format stinks..

at least players that I wanted to advance did not disappoint.
TMNT
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February 08 2022 12:02 GMT
#85
Can anyone explain to me the thought process of Shuttle in correctly predicting the Lurker Ling all-in? His scouting probe dies early and since then it's totally guess work.

It feels to me like he doesn't really know it's Lurker. He just builds a bunch of Cannons in both main and nat to cover all situations. It works out in the end but what if Beast just builds another Hatch and drones up?
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1268 Posts
February 08 2022 12:05 GMT
#86
On February 08 2022 21:02 TMNT wrote:
Can anyone explain to me the thought process of Shuttle in correctly predicting the Lurker Ling all-in? His scouting probe dies early and since then it's totally guess work.

It feels to me like he doesn't really know it's Lurker. He just builds a bunch of Cannons in both main and nat to cover all situations. It works out in the end but what if Beast just builds another Hatch and drones up?


He knows it's an all-in though. So he just desperately started building cannons wherever he could.

If the attack doesn't come (sair is on the way) he gets to cancel the main cannons.

It was ok I think.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13537 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-08 13:01:11
February 08 2022 12:58 GMT
#87
That was a pretty lame and embarrassing showing from Beast.

He really didn't give any shits and it showed.

edit: dunno if I'll get in trouble for writing this but Beast's play is sort of shit you expect from someone deliberately throwing games :/
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13537 Posts
February 08 2022 12:59 GMT
#88
On February 08 2022 21:02 TMNT wrote:
Can anyone explain to me the thought process of Shuttle in correctly predicting the Lurker Ling all-in? His scouting probe dies early and since then it's totally guess work.

It feels to me like he doesn't really know it's Lurker. He just builds a bunch of Cannons in both main and nat to cover all situations. It works out in the end but what if Beast just builds another Hatch and drones up?

He saw Beast's first two games and it seemed pretty clear he wasn't in the mood for playing a proper BW game.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic959 Posts
February 08 2022 14:02 GMT
#89
Meh I dont get.. That guy has qualified through 2:0's over Ample and Scan, who are both solid top tier players. Then comes into main event.. and do stupid crap like this. Just why..
never too old for starcraft :)
lamarine
Profile Joined January 2003
591 Posts
February 08 2022 14:36 GMT
#90
On February 08 2022 23:02 Destroyer wrote:
Meh I dont get.. That guy has qualified through 2:0's over Ample and Scan, who are both solid top tier players. Then comes into main event.. and do stupid crap like this. Just why..

i wonder if he did same stupid shit in qualies
So... BW is back
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic959 Posts
February 08 2022 15:09 GMT
#91
On February 08 2022 23:36 lamarine wrote:
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On February 08 2022 23:02 Destroyer wrote:
Meh I dont get.. That guy has qualified through 2:0's over Ample and Scan, who are both solid top tier players. Then comes into main event.. and do stupid crap like this. Just why..

i wonder if he did same stupid shit in qualies


Made me curous, so I went through qualification VOD, found one of his games and no... He played standard perfecly solid ZvT game with usual muta opening, into 3 bases, into lurker defiler and outplayed the terran.
never too old for starcraft :)
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
February 08 2022 15:18 GMT
#92
isnt it obvious why he went for cheese strats? I thinks (who knows if it is correct) that he is worse in a straight up game than his respective opponent..

simple

hatred outlives the hateful
ajmbek
Profile Joined November 2008
Italy460 Posts
February 08 2022 15:44 GMT
#93
so if i have not watched it live i had now to wait a week to get it on youtube?
Sic iter ad astra
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-08 16:25:41
February 08 2022 16:20 GMT
#94
Why hate on Beast? Cheese is part of the game. It's not whether you cheese, it's how you cheese. The 4-pool proved to be devastating on a map where the lings could avoid the scouting SCV and still reach T quickly. I respect a Zerg who knows when it's time to 4-pool and keep the fear alive. Don't you guys know that Jaedong used to 4-pool all the time, even in big games?

As for the failed lurker all-in, it looked like a really powerful build. The corsair was NOT going to detect it in time. It only failed because Shuttle had star sense and made four cannons BLIND. You don't see the Protoss do that every game. Obviously Shuttle had a hunch something dirty was coming his way, but he was taking a huge gamble with that number of cannons in the main and natural.

On February 09 2022 00:44 ajmbek wrote:
so if i have not watched it live i had now to wait a week to get it on youtube?

No, go to the YouTube channel of the BeSt man:
https://www.youtube.com/c/도재욱TV/videos
There are 8-minute edited videos that capture the most important aspects of the matches.
May the BeSt man win.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4300 Posts
February 08 2022 17:56 GMT
#95
On February 09 2022 00:09 Destroyer wrote:
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On February 08 2022 23:36 lamarine wrote:
On February 08 2022 23:02 Destroyer wrote:
Meh I dont get.. That guy has qualified through 2:0's over Ample and Scan, who are both solid top tier players. Then comes into main event.. and do stupid crap like this. Just why..

i wonder if he did same stupid shit in qualies


Made me curous, so I went through qualification VOD, found one of his games and no... He played standard perfecly solid ZvT game with usual muta opening, into 3 bases, into lurker defiler and outplayed the terran.

seems like the bo1 format poisoned his brain or something

damn shame
staatbauhaus
Profile Joined February 2020
99 Posts
February 08 2022 18:24 GMT
#96
Well Beast did mention that there's a gap between him and other pros. Especially someone like Best.

I would expect the way he feels playing against Best is how you would feel playing against Beast. Unless you're 2700+ ladder rank.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-08 19:27:25
February 08 2022 19:05 GMT
#97
For a vod click the spoiler tab below. Not the most entertaining, maybe on Best's channel like someone linked above where it shows the highlights is the best way to watch them
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"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
February 08 2022 21:33 GMT
#98
On February 08 2022 21:02 TMNT wrote:
Can anyone explain to me the thought process of Shuttle in correctly predicting the Lurker Ling all-in? His scouting probe dies early and since then it's totally guess work.

It feels to me like he doesn't really know it's Lurker. He just builds a bunch of Cannons in both main and nat to cover all situations. It works out in the end but what if Beast just builds another Hatch and drones up?


He expected an allin because beast heavy-cheesed the other two games (wasn't comfotable enough to play straight up) and played 9 pool instead of overpool.
He built cannons at the front to be safe against ling and hydra allins but when these allins didn't come he expected mutalisks. You can see that he built cannons in the main but canceled them when he scouted with his first corsair.
maybe
Profile Joined January 2008
266 Posts
February 08 2022 21:37 GMT
#99
On February 09 2022 00:44 ajmbek wrote:
so if i have not watched it live i had now to wait a week to get it on youtube?

you can watch the scan/nyoken vod on afreeca
vod.afreecatv.com
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13537 Posts
February 08 2022 22:24 GMT
#100
The 9 pool + early gas opener from Beast was pretty revealing about the incoming cheese/all-in.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
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