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[ASL12] 3rd Place match

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
October 31 2021 09:59 GMT
#1

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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7764 Posts
October 31 2021 10:15 GMT
#2
OOOOO!!!! It has started ! Hero is already 1-0 up ! I forgot about this !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
October 31 2021 10:20 GMT
#3
On October 31 2021 19:15 prosatan wrote:
OOOOO!!!! It has started ! Hero is already 1-0 up ! I forgot about this !

Wtf. I just got online to skip the interviews etc. I guess ASL is in a hurry cuz it's a ZvZ and it's not a finals. lol...
FBH #1!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7764 Posts
October 31 2021 10:31 GMT
#4
On October 31 2021 19:20 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2021 19:15 prosatan wrote:
OOOOO!!!! It has started ! Hero is already 1-0 up ! I forgot about this !

Wtf. I just got online to skip the interviews etc. I guess ASL is in a hurry cuz it's a ZvZ and it's not a finals. lol...

Yesss Peeano ... I thought it will be at 13:00 here in Romania... like always ...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7764 Posts
October 31 2021 10:36 GMT
#5
A bit of LRing won't hurt anyone so...
3rd game on Polypoid
Hero - bottom right
Queen - top left

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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7764 Posts
October 31 2021 10:38 GMT
#6
hero goes for 9 pool and queen for 12 pool.. a bit of advantage for queen
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
October 31 2021 10:39 GMT
#7
Daylight saving time ended overnight, so that's why it's an hour earlier. Korea doesn't use DST.
FBH #1!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7764 Posts
October 31 2021 10:39 GMT
#8
hero with 500 apm and nice control of his zerglings... meh...my LB is going down
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
October 31 2021 10:57 GMT
#9
Exciting Game 3. Kinda crazy how you can win with larva and a 600 gas disadvantage. Would have been worth it for hero to build a sunk in the main and/or natural with a ling block on the ramp so he can fully focus on his muta vs muta.
FBH #1!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7764 Posts
October 31 2021 11:05 GMT
#10
GG!!

Hero with a quick victory in game 4 - leads the match 3-1 ! only one game away from 3rd place , like in the previous ASL !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7764 Posts
October 31 2021 11:05 GMT
#11
What??! I thought they play BO7....
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7764 Posts
October 31 2021 11:06 GMT
#12
well...this is it 3rd and 4th place exactly like in ASL11 !

GG! Next week we are going to celebrate the FINALS !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
October 31 2021 11:07 GMT
#13
For a moment that looked to be a very exciting game 4, but Zero basically forgot to build an overlord on time. Talk about anti-climatic :/

Damn, I'm still sad we got a Mini vs hero finals denied by Rush.
FBH #1!
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4103 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-31 13:07:51
October 31 2021 13:03 GMT
#14
On October 31 2021 20:07 Peeano wrote:
For a moment that looked to be a very exciting game 4, but Zero basically forgot to build an overlord on time. Talk about anti-climatic :/

Damn, I'm still sad we got a Mini vs hero finals denied by Rush.

Why? We got a good PvZ series, we got a pretty good TvZ series and now most likely we'll get a good PvT series
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
October 31 2021 15:25 GMT
#15
On October 31 2021 22:03 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2021 20:07 Peeano wrote:
For a moment that looked to be a very exciting game 4, but Zero basically forgot to build an overlord on time. Talk about anti-climatic :/

Damn, I'm still sad we got a Mini vs hero finals denied by Rush.

Why? We got a good PvZ series, we got a pretty good TvZ series and now most likely we'll get a good PvT series

Because judging on past achievements both Mini and hero deserve a chance for the ASL title more than Rush.
And PvZ are both Min's and hero's best match up. It should be guaranteed fireworks.

Now if Mini can deliver this may be a good finals, but I'm afraid Rush is in such good form Mini will have very little chance to win this finals. Mini has been dodging PvT since ASL 11 and it is his worst match up by far. I just don't see him winning this one. I'd give him a 10~20% chance at most. Where as Mini vs hero is much more 50-50. Much more exciting imho.
Rush can always win next ASL vs Larva or Snow. That should give Rush much more praise than roflstomping Mini for his first gold. That said IF Mini can deliver the ASL 12 title can still hold good value for whoever wins this finals, but Mini has been notoriously bad at PvT like Light had been comically bad at TvP for almost all of his career.
FBH #1!
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
October 31 2021 16:38 GMT
#16
Am I the only one who does no longer see the ASL events under "upcoming events" on tl? ;/
hatred outlives the hateful
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
November 01 2021 02:06 GMT
#17
On November 01 2021 01:38 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Am I the only one who does no longer see the ASL events under "upcoming events" on tl? ;/


unsurprising, considering theres just one more.
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ruhtraeel
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada115 Posts
November 01 2021 02:37 GMT
#18
On October 31 2021 19:39 prosatan wrote:
hero with 500 apm and nice control of his zerglings... meh...my LB is going down


Hero tends to have super high apm in the early game, then falls off more than most Zergs in the mid-late game, down to below 300.

Effort and Hyuk are two players who maintain 400 almost always
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
November 01 2021 11:03 GMT
#19
On November 01 2021 11:37 ruhtraeel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2021 19:39 prosatan wrote:
hero with 500 apm and nice control of his zerglings... meh...my LB is going down


Hero tends to have super high apm in the early game, then falls off more than most Zergs in the mid-late game, down to below 300.

Effort and Hyuk are two players who maintain 400 almost always


Brain > APM. Don't even bring up HyuK, you know how his games always end.

Same dejavu results for ZerO just like previous season. I don't even know, it's not like ZerO played bad but he wasn't prepared for shenanigans of Mini. ZerO needs more than that if he wants to advance further.
sunbeams are never made like me...
J. Corsair
Profile Joined June 2014
United States470 Posts
November 01 2021 17:52 GMT
#20
On November 01 2021 00:25 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2021 22:03 M2 wrote:
On October 31 2021 20:07 Peeano wrote:
For a moment that looked to be a very exciting game 4, but Zero basically forgot to build an overlord on time. Talk about anti-climatic :/

Damn, I'm still sad we got a Mini vs hero finals denied by Rush.

Why? We got a good PvZ series, we got a pretty good TvZ series and now most likely we'll get a good PvT series

Because judging on past achievements both Mini and hero deserve a chance for the ASL title more than Rush.
And PvZ are both Min's and hero's best match up. It should be guaranteed fireworks.

Now if Mini can deliver this may be a good finals, but I'm afraid Rush is in such good form Mini will have very little chance to win this finals. Mini has been dodging PvT since ASL 11 and it is his worst match up by far. I just don't see him winning this one. I'd give him a 10~20% chance at most. Where as Mini vs hero is much more 50-50. Much more exciting imho.
Rush can always win next ASL vs Larva or Snow. That should give Rush much more praise than roflstomping Mini for his first gold. That said IF Mini can deliver the ASL 12 title can still hold good value for whoever wins this finals, but Mini has been notoriously bad at PvT like Light had been comically bad at TvP for almost all of his career.

So Rush is in excellent form, appearing stronger than Mini and beating hero... But doesn't deserve to win a title? Based on 'past achievements'?

Confusing. Rush deserves a chance to win a title based on 'past achievements' like winning his ro8 and ro4 matches... Right?

I get you want a close finals, but saying Rush doesn't deserve a title is without merit
“...it is human nature, I suppose, to be futile and ridiculous.” - Scaramouche
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