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Players/Matches
Ever)T(Sheis (STX, Terran)
Sheis is a great player as long as its about Terran vs Zerg. His Terran vs Protoss is not close to the top Terran vs Protoss. To state my argument with some facts:
TvP Record: 3 wins - 3 losses (50.00%)
His wins were against Kingdom, Pusan and fOru.. not the worst Protoss players, but aged Protoss players.
LuCifer[Name] (KTF, Protoss)
I cannot say much about him, since I've never seen him play in a match - besides amateur and semi pro games that is.
PvT Record: 0-0 (Offcourse)
Since he is really young and for me known for his good dt and reaver usage I will give him the edge over Sheis on Monty hall - a map which needs a good "spirit".
Prediction
LuCifer[Name] > Ever)T(Sheis
JJu (Samsung, Zerg)
JJu is a known, but not one of the very best players. He has to face a Terran today, which is not very confortable for him, since his record vs Terran is amazingly bad. (Even worse than Childs).
ZvT Record: 0-4 (0%)
Besides the fact that he is 0-4, I still believe that he cann pull of an upset vs forGG_V , who is the favorite to me, even if his Terran vs Zerg is not good ads well.
forGG_V (Lecaf, Terran)
To start of with forGG_V I want to mention his performance seems to be really stuttering. He won over GGPlay, but lost to Clon.. (not much to say here, huh?)
TvZ Record: 4-4 (50%)
As I mentioned before, I'm giving the mass ling user JJu the edge over him on Monty Hall.
Prediction
JJu > forGG_V
Further Match Prediction
Zerg
Terran
Protoss
Ever)T(Sheis < LuCifer[Name]
JJu > fOrGG_V
JJu > LuCifer[Name] (Winners Match)
Ever)T(Sheis > forGG_V (Losers Match)
LuCifer[Name] > Ever)T(Sheis
JJu and LuCifer[Name] advance to MSL!
Results:
+ Show Spoiler +
Ever)T(Sheis < LuCifer[Name]
JJu < fOrGG_V
LuCifer[Name] < fOrGG_V (Winners Match)
JJu < Ever)T(Sheis (Losers Match)
Ever)T(Sheis < LuCifer[Name] (Loser Winners Match vs Winner Losers Match)
fOrGG_V and LuCifer[Name] advance!
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prediction:
Ever)T(Sheis > LuCifer[Name]
JJu < ForGG_V
Ever)T(Sheis < fOrGG_V
JJu > LuCifer[Name]
Ever)T(Sheis > JJu
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Nice opening post
More than anything I would like to see JJu advance. He has been one of my favorite zergs since forever. Unfortunately, he is playing bad for the longer time now. JJu was always notable in proleague, but nowadays he rarely plays. JJu is not as sharp as he used to be, but I support him with all of my heart. GO JJu!
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it seems to me that your predicitions always defy all logic and reasoning?
Sheis is a reasonably accomplished player and Lucifer is an unwritten card. Even though Lucifer could very well win I don't see any reason to predict any other outcome than Sheis coming through here?
As for JJu, given the map and his current form, I'd call him the underdog here. Given I'm a big fan of the Straight Zerg i hope your "prediction" (looks more like a wish list?) comes true!
this is what will happen (i'm going to eat this later lol):
Sheis > Lucifer
forGG > JJu
Sheis > forGG
Lucifer > JJu (he might, just might win this one though)
forGG > whoever
sry if it came out as kinda harsh but sometimes i'm puzzled by the how groundless predictions these days seem to be (kinda like some people always going with the underdog in the liquibet section).
JJU FIGHTING!!!
EDIT: fuck, 3 people beat me to it...
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Sheis > Lucifer
ForGG > Jju
Sheis < ForGG
Jju > Lucifer
Shies < Jju
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Ill just say that I think ForGG and Jju will advance.
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On August 07 2007 02:23 Red_Dragon wrote:Nice opening post
Thank you very much..!
On August 07 2007 02:23 Red_Dragon wrote:
More than anything I would like to see JJu advance. He has been one of my favorite zerg since forever. Unfortunately he is playing bad for the longer time now. JJu was always notable in proleague, but nowadays he rarely plays. JJu is not as sharp as he used to be, but I support him with all of my heart. GO JJu!
I totally agree with you. I'm Terran but I love the way JJu playes. He playes so aggressiv and fast. I want JJu to advance too  !
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On August 07 2007 02:24 Aepplet wrote:
it seems to me that your predicitions always defy all logic and reasoning?
Sheis is a reasonably accomplished player and Lucifer is an unwritten card. Even though Lucifer could very well win I don't see any reason to predict any other outcome than Sheis coming through here?
As for JJu, given the map and his current form, I'd call him the underdog here. Given I'm a big fan of the Straight Zerg i hope your "prediction" (looks more like a wish list?) comes true!
this is what will happen (i'm going to eat this later lol):
Sheis > Lucifer
forGG > JJu
Sheis > forGG
Lucifer > JJu (he might, just might win this one though)
forGG > whoever
sry if it came out as kinda harsh but sometimes i'm puzzled by the how groundless predictions these days seem to be (kinda like some people always going with the underdog in the liquibet section).
JJU FIGHTING!!!
EDIT: fuck, 3 people beat me to it...
I don't blame your for being harsh. Its totally okay for me. And you are right too, I'm going with the underdogs here , what does not mean they cannot win. JJu is a smart player and on Monty Hall you have to play smart.
I'm not only judging by the records of the players, also by styles.
LuCifer was very well known on PGTOUR (A+ 87%?) and his amazing PvT (even if its just vs semi pros or amateur gamer) His PvT was like 90% !
We will see what happens.
Anyway, thank you for your opinion (serious, not ironic). Maybe my predictions are a bit odd, because I'm in a hurry also, I wrote it @ work !
Next time I will have more time to analyze the records etc.
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exactly, what does not mean they cannot win, but predictions is all about who is more likely to win =)
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no it's up?
EDIT: ok now i see what you mean, yeah it's not working =/
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KTF' protoss are all pure sex!^^
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lol, lucifer is hot! reminds me of Crocus except he's not chubby!
EDIT: lol i got beat to it again...
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no reporting?
monty hall
lucifer top
sheis bottom
cc near mid mineral wall for sheis, fast citadel for lucifer
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Nevermind, got it
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I like this dudes style O_O
he just forced sheis to D up with a couple goons and some real nice micro.. dts about to pop out. i think it might outright end the game(maybe).
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sheis cc near mid was a fake, he's floating it to the top lane instead. lucifer sees right through it (with his probe lol) and sends 2 goons down that lane. addon on 1st fact, 2nd building. archives coming up for lucifer! marines and scv battle goons, all marines die before bunker is up! tank out, takes on 2 goons as 8 scv repair it! 2nd addon done. i think lucifer is expoing top lane as well. dt out!
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dts basically owning him up while lucifer expands.. game is all but completely over.
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2 more dts coming, goons down, but sheis has nothing on the dts! lots of scv die, 2 bays up lol. so many dts....like 5 or more! gates in main coming, GG lucifer > sheis
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lucifer giving bow to sheis and looking really happy he won: D
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lucifer sticks his tongue out (is it a ceremony lol?).
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How do I get gom player to play the live MSL? I just dled it because Naruto's link finally caused me to overcome my massive laziness, thanks for that.
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omg, JJu's cheerful is so cool! it pictures JJu as an aviator and is accompanied by the text "desire to fly high!". beautiful!
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If you installed + started.
On the right site is something like a menu. Scroll over it to nearly the end (right) the symbols should change from every menu point.
In one there is "MSL survivor" picture, click on it.
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Oh I think I managed...that was easier than I thought Thanks.
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The menu shows: TV <something korean> MBC <something korean> ....
the 2nd point from right, then MSL survivor -> click.
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thedeadhaji
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two thoughts.
1) Sheis got owneddddd
2) Lucifer kinda looks like a more-awake Midas.
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On August 07 2007 02:46 Aepplet wrote:
lucifer sticks his tongue out (is it a ceremony lol?).
I think he was just genuinely giddy about his win.
This was his first tv game (i think) and he got a win over a pretty solid player in sheis. Can't blame the guy from letting his joy crack through can we?
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ok, cause yy and sc2 are down, and daum only broadcasts OSL, i need Gom TV, right?
just downloaded it from the link of Naruto and installed, but i don't understand what options i have to choose to view MSL... can you help me?
EDIT: lol, just read it
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On August 07 2007 02:54 thedeadhaji wrote:
two thoughts.
1) Sheis got owneddddd
2) Lucifer kinda looks like a more-awake Midas.
really? i think he looks like a thin Crocus!
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thedeadhaji
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Btw GOM usually isn't suited for the reporters b/c it's often 2-3 minutes ahead of sc2.org, where the vast majority of users watch the games (so esp in a large event like a semis/finals, you should use sc2.org or yaoyuan so that the game's progress doesn't get spoiled - esp when some fools just write one post: "omg xxx got owned by yyy gg" when everyone else is 5 mins behind)
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Lol I just asked this...and he just answered it. Scroll up.
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On August 07 2007 02:56 Cranefly wrote:
ok, cause yy and sc2 are down, and daum only broadcasts OSL, i need Gom TV, right?
just downloaded it from the link of Naruto and installed, but i don't understand what options i have to choose to view MSL... can you help me?
EDIT: lol, just read it
On the right side there is a menu like:
TV >KOREAN< MBC >KOREAN< >KOREAN< .. you have to choose the korean sign (2nd from right side) and then click MSL survivor
After that you get a red button (high quality) and an orange one (low quality). Click on one of them.
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On August 07 2007 02:57 Aepplet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2007 02:54 thedeadhaji wrote:
two thoughts.
1) Sheis got owneddddd
2) Lucifer kinda looks like a more-awake Midas. really? i think he looks like a thin Crocus!
hmm, well they had similar looking hair, but if you look more carefully, I think you'd notice that his facial features themselves resemble midas more? haha, not really important in any case.
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Ha, Lucifer was great to watch there. Another young gun messing about.
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which link is the lower qual version the red or the orange one?
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thedeadhaji
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On August 07 2007 02:56 Cranefly wrote:
ok, cause yy and sc2 are down, and daum only broadcasts OSL, i need Gom TV, right?
just downloaded it from the link of Naruto and installed, but i don't understand what options i have to choose to view MSL... can you help me?
EDIT: lol, just read it
wait i thought sc2's msl stream works, and it was just the ogn one that was broken? hm.
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thedeadhaji
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OMG GO forGG~~~~~ Show me your HILARIOUS TVZ
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holy shit, the orange one is running REALLY good for me!
shit!
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hahaha, JJu sends his overlord the wrong way at first! hahaha
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ok got it working, even with another way then discribed, cause i didn't find MSL survivor in the list
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On August 07 2007 03:00 Aepplet wrote:
hahaha, JJu sends his overlord the wrong way at first! hahaha
it's really common to scout not directly to main, to see proxies or sth.
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On August 07 2007 02:59 thedeadhaji wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2007 02:57 Aepplet wrote:On August 07 2007 02:54 thedeadhaji wrote:
two thoughts.
1) Sheis got owneddddd
2) Lucifer kinda looks like a more-awake Midas. really? i think he looks like a thin Crocus! hmm, well they had similar looking hair, but if you look more carefully, I think you'd notice that his facial features themselves resemble midas more? haha, not really important in any case.
i think he has the same eyes as crocus (hahaha, how gay is this on a scale from 1-10?)
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On August 07 2007 03:01 GTR-2-Go wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2007 03:00 Aepplet wrote:
hahaha, JJu sends his overlord the wrong way at first! hahaha it's really common to scout not directly to main, to see proxies or sth.
no i mean he sent into the corner behind his base (he's at 11 but thought he's at 5?)
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Hes using it to scout the other lane...its not the "wrong way" Interesting, ForGG is 8 raxing on the other side of his center min wall. Jju is Expanding at his nat in the center lane and scouting the center as well..he will see the proxy rax from ForGG.
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On August 07 2007 03:01 Aepplet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2007 02:59 thedeadhaji wrote:On August 07 2007 02:57 Aepplet wrote:On August 07 2007 02:54 thedeadhaji wrote:
two thoughts.
1) Sheis got owneddddd
2) Lucifer kinda looks like a more-awake Midas. really? i think he looks like a thin Crocus! hmm, well they had similar looking hair, but if you look more carefully, I think you'd notice that his facial features themselves resemble midas more? haha, not really important in any case. i think he has the same eyes as crocus (hahaha, how gay is this on a scale from 1-10?)
Close to 5 billion.
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Lol ForGGs 8 rax forces jju to cancel his hatch and he starts a proxy fact right before jjus min wall. Jju has a Hatch morphing on the other side of the center min wall and is expanding to the nat in the right lane.
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nono, you misunderstood me, i mean the very first 2 seconds of the game, he sent it into the corner between his minerals and extractor, and then instantly turned it around (as he realized he's at 11!)
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Forgg pushes a vult though with his proxy fact. Nice micro gets 7 kills and counting...
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Up to 13 now as Forgg has 2 starports done and 2 wraiths on the way. Vult is killed finally.
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but fuck it seems that i have messed up something when i launched it first, because it'S lagging pretty bad
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Now ForGG floating his fact into the main of jju as his wraiths kill drones in the main min line...Jju looking to all in with mass lings in ForGGs main! Hes mining out the wall but 2 wraiths come over and stop the drones for finishing their goal. JJu GGs
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thedeadhaji
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On August 07 2007 03:04 Aepplet wrote:
nono, you misunderstood me, i mean the very first 2 seconds of the game, he sent it into the corner between his minerals and extractor, and then instantly turned it around (as he realized he's at 11!)
are you SURE he didnt just select all drones, larva and OL and send to minerals (cloning) then turned it around as he finished the split?
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this map is bullshit for tvz =( poor jju!
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On August 07 2007 03:05 Cranefly wrote:
but fuck it seems that i have messed up something when i launched it first, because it'S lagging pretty bad
Try the other color. You most likely piced the high res one and your bandwidth cant support it.
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thedeadhaji
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On August 07 2007 03:05 Cranefly wrote:
but fuck it seems that i have messed up something when i launched it first, because it'S lagging pretty bad
when you see an OJ and red button on top of each other, click the bottom one, that's the low bitrate one.
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On August 07 2007 03:07 thedeadhaji wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2007 03:04 Aepplet wrote:
nono, you misunderstood me, i mean the very first 2 seconds of the game, he sent it into the corner between his minerals and extractor, and then instantly turned it around (as he realized he's at 11!) are you SURE he didnt just select all drones, larva and OL and send to minerals (cloning) then turned it around as he finished the split?
people do that? i just select the drones when i split >_<
maybe you are right!
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tvpot needs low qual one 
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thedeadhaji
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well when rA uses a fucking ball mouse, anything is possible ><
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On August 07 2007 02:59 thedeadhaji wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2007 02:56 Cranefly wrote:
ok, cause yy and sc2 are down, and daum only broadcasts OSL, i need Gom TV, right?
just downloaded it from the link of Naruto and installed, but i don't understand what options i have to choose to view MSL... can you help me?
EDIT: lol, just read it wait i thought sc2's msl stream works, and it was just the ogn one that was broken? hm.
nope, stream stops buffering at 1 sec
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Ya it seems Terrans have found the answer for zerg(once again) on monty hall. They are like what 4-0 in the last 4 tvzs using the exact same build(or very minor variations of it)?
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thedeadhaji
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I guess ggplay defeating iris with the silver build was the last straw for terrans eh?
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thedeadhaji
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-___- that "superhero" game that was just on as an ad reminds me of a cross b/w powerstone and viewtiful joe.
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They found a simple solution to the silver build. Proxy 8 rax where the zerg hatch would go
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On August 07 2007 03:08 thedeadhaji wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2007 03:05 Cranefly wrote:
but fuck it seems that i have messed up something when i launched it first, because it'S lagging pretty bad when you see an OJ and red button on top of each other, click the bottom one, that's the low bitrate one.
you're right it's better now
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damn that game was quick: [ i went to do something and came back and thought it was still in between games haha.
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oh i hope this toss is winning. it would be great if one extratoss would join the three (? bisu, free, stork... any else?) which already qualified.
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thedeadhaji
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FOrGG you got your best MU (TVP) on a balanced map. YOU HAVE NO EXCUSES DAMN IT!!!!
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On August 07 2007 03:17 Cranefly wrote:
oh i hope this toss is winning. it would be great if one extratoss would join the three (? bisu, free, stork... any else?) which already qualified.
+ra and mujuk
lol they keep calling lucifer "Protoss Lee Young Ho"
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Lucifer is at 1, ForGG at 8.
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thedeadhaji
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OH YOU FUCKER DO NOT 14CC YOU MORONNNNNNN
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On August 07 2007 03:17 Cranefly wrote:
oh i hope this toss is winning. it would be great if one extratoss would join the three (? bisu, free, stork... any else?) which already qualified.
Ra!
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ForGG 12 rax/gas at the same time. Lucifer going gate/gas...shocking.
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thedeadhaji
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*whew* he went 11/11. thank fucking godddd
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Lucifer scouted te wrong way as did ForGG. Fact started. A marine is on the ramp to prevent lucifer's scout. Core is spinning. 2nd fact started.
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ForGG makes a vult before add on ...interesting. Lucifcer starting a robo. ForGG now adding add ons to both facts. One is done and spinning.
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thedeadhaji
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hOt. forgg checks for proxies at 11 with first vult.
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Another vult out and both are spinning. Looks like ForGG is opening 2 fact double uped vults. Observatory started.
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3 Marines move out to clear any scouting probes but 1 gets by and sees 1 vult but it had speed! So lucifer knows whats comming. He has his ramp blocked and 5 goons on the high ground. An ob is ready and forGG is countered ForGG starts his cc though. Hes going to need tanks quickly though to keep alive. Citadel warped and archieves started! Nexus started as well.
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Havent seen a dt drop opening in a longggg time
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Lucifer adding 2 more gates for a total of 4. Shuttle out and lifts a probe to the corner island. ForGG has ebay done and mines around the back of his base.
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thedeadhaji
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shit. I dont like forgg's turret placement in his main. He definitely thinks it's a reaver that's coming
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thedeadhaji
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omg yes yes yes forgg you got so fucking lucky that yo uhad your units in main rather than nat!!
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Oh! ForGGs baracks probably saw lucifers shuttle. ForGG has a tight formation and was sooo ready for that 2 dt and 2 zealot drop. Killing both dts and zealots before they could even take down 1 turret
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hmm...i guess you're right he looks more like midas now!
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Lucifer's island nexus almost in and is clearing mines from his choke and ahead. ForGG needs to time his push soon before the island nexus gives him an advantage. As I saw this a rax floats over to the corner island and sees the nexus
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thedeadhaji
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hahaha manner rax distraction -> push up the fronttt
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LOL he lands his rax and starts making a FB in lucifers min line as he moves out with his push!
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thedeadhaji
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wtf forgg make MOAR FUCKING UNITS COME ONNN
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Dispite an engagement by lucifer, forgg gets his push established in front of the protoss choke. However its not solid, forgg is outnumbered. OMFG some well placed mines do huge damage to the goons. The push holds as forgg starts his min only cc.
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thedeadhaji
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sweeeeet~~~~~~
(lol first terran he meets in MSL, forgg's going to die a miserable death)
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nooooo: [ damn it yo why did you drop those dts like that.
if he woulda just harassed perimeter gosh
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ForGG handles the next wave of speed zeals by unsieging then moves up and starts firing on the main nexus. Vults take out the probes. Beautiful play by ForGG. Lucifer ggs. The rax scout timing and building Firebats in the min line at the island to keep protoss busy was brilliant. The firebats got some probe kills by the way Even though lucifer dropped 2 goons.
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If it keeps skipping does it just mean my computer/connection sucks or is there a way to fix it?
Edit: nvm, I just switched to LQ and it works fine.
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thedeadhaji
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On August 07 2007 03:27 Aepplet wrote:
hmm...i guess you're right he looks more like midas now!
actually now i'm like "wtf the upper half of his face looks like someone else"
lol we're playing mind games on eachother!
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damn my stream is even lagging at the low bit rate
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There wasnt much of a perimeter to harass. ForGG had placed mines around his perimeter(near depots and other buildings).
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What if lucifer just went into his front with the obs? Forgg didn't have siege it seems..
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Or he didn't have enough goons because of templar tech?
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On August 07 2007 03:33 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
There wasnt much of a perimeter to harass. ForGG had placed mines around his perimeter(near depots and other buildings).
hm, why not attacking the turret with bers and dts, so there would be no detector in the min line...
he could have owned some svcs
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On August 07 2007 03:37 Organ wrote:
What if lucifer just went into his front with the obs? Forgg didn't have siege it seems..
He had siege. When the drop was made, there was already one tank sieged about 1/4 of a screen below the turret in his main.
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thedeadhaji
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On August 07 2007 03:38 Cranefly wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2007 03:33 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
There wasnt much of a perimeter to harass. ForGG had placed mines around his perimeter(near depots and other buildings). hm, why not attacking the turret with bers and dts, so there would be no detector in the min line... he could have owned some svcs
Lucifer literally went straight for the turret in the main, even sending the shuttle straight into it to reduce the amount of time units would be exposed to enemy fire. In fact he even used his obs to draw the fire of the turret so the shuttle could get closer (although I think he messed up the timing with the obs/shuttle movement a bit)
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On August 07 2007 03:40 thedeadhaji wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2007 03:37 Organ wrote:
What if lucifer just went into his front with the obs? Forgg didn't have siege it seems.. He had siege. When the drop was made, there was already one tank sieged about 1/4 of a screen below the turret in his main.
I mean the moment when he had just built his first obs.
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thedeadhaji
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ohh, alright. in that case, I have no idea, and your hypothesis about the templar tech is most likely correct.
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Ya i even covered that in my live report ForGG was just superprepared with his army near his cc. Next game starting by the way
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Sheis vs Jju on Python. Jju is at 6 and scouts sheis at 8 with his overlord.
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Jju 12 hatch 11 pool. Sheis 1 rax and then a second depot, looks to be 1 rax ccing.
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Jju with a 3rd hatch down, gas started. Sheis scouts all this as he makes a cc at the nat.
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Wtf..sheis is attacking with only 3 rines lol...
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He runs away though as he reaches the zerg nat without doing anything.
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On August 07 2007 03:37 Organ wrote:
What if lucifer just went into his front with the obs? Forgg didn't have siege it seems..
The idea is that forgg will counter with the speed vults while the Protoss slowly mulls through the mines.
Its much like the principle in using speedlings vs P or T early on.
Hmm I like jju and lucifer.. dont know if I want jju to win this or not, cuz if he does he will probably beat lucifer: [a
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Nat hatch is morphed to lair as 6 lings chase the terran scv out of the base with red health, 2 more get it as it comes back. 12 lings with speed heading for the terran nat, but sheis has his troops at the ramp, he lifts and scouts scvs.
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sorry, one last question: when i launched gom player for the first time, i could choose three options and i chose the last one (TV). and now my stream lags around badly... what am i supposed to do against this? daum player works fine though
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thedeadhaji
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O_O ju's shirt has a nike swoosh on it
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Jju has skimped on a lot of drones and now has 2 groups of speedlings...that get wasted by 2 meidcs/marines and 2 firebats=/ Spire is about done now. Sheis with 3 rax and ebay with upgrades going. Sheis moving out a bit with 6 rines 2 bats and 2 medics. Jju starts 2 sunkens. Sheis returns and puts up some turrets at his min lines. Mutas morphing. Jju is wayyyy behind...
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thedeadhaji
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On August 07 2007 03:47 Cranefly wrote:
sorry, one last question: when i launched gom player for the first time, i could choose three options and i chose the last one (TV). and now my stream lags around badly... what am i supposed to do against this? daum player works fine though
i personally chose whatever the default option was.
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hm im surprised jju went through with pressing the ramp like that. Looks moderately bad for him now.
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Hydra den is done..mutas moving to harass sheis but he should hold it off pretty easy... Mutas move in and get a turret before running. Jju gets a firebat but loses a muta...and another=/ Hyras walking out and to the side. Jju looking to go offensive with his first lurks?
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7 lurks walking to the north eastern part of the middle and morphing there. Sheis doesnt know about them. Jjju has lost some mutas though. Scv sees the lurks as they morph. He has mnm in the middle of the map looking to catch them before they get too close. jju moving in!!! Nice positong of his lurks. Tkaes a chunk out of the T army but T gets a bunk up in time and jju loses too many lurks. Jju ggs...really shitty play from jju to be honest.
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wow just leaves. ; [ what the fuck happened to you jju. you used to win games
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He had no hope of winning but still=/ Jju made 12 drones worth of lings and accomplished absoulutely nothing with them besides costing sheis some mining time. Thats not gonna cut it. Because of that his muta harass did nothing, and on top of that he was sloppy. Losing mutas that couldve been used with his lurk timing attack.
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He knew he was too far behind to come back. Sadly got scouted by the scv looking for an expo, otherwise he would have been much more successful with the lurkers.
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Russian Federation987 Posts
Let's look at "ZvP is easy" now.
Oh no, now it's PvT. Jju is out..
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I really want lucifer to qualify now. We've had enough terrans.
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Lucifer looks really nervous.
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Game starting on Desperado. Lucifer is at 2. Sheis at 8.
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acctually lucifer looks more like shudder!
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Customary rax then gas for Sheis. Lucifer gateways then gases. 1 zealot out for him though. It heads for the terran main. Zealot harassing now..it takes out the fact building scv and a marine before dying. Another zeal on its way though. Core is spinning.
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Nexus down and sheis starting his cc a little aftr on the high ground.
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Lol sheis's scv sees the nexus. Robo halfway done.
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T_T my connection to korea is so baaaaaaad T_T;
N> sc2.org T_T;
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4 marines and 3 tanks out for sheis. They siege up at the mins by the choke. Another fact started for a total of 2 as well as a ebay. Lucifer adding another gate for a total of 3. His observatory is complete and a robotics support bay is just finishing as well.
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4 goons killing the statis cell at the 2nd nat. Sheis playing it safe and has 2 scanners starting as well as 2 tanks sieged by his main mins.
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Nexus down at the min only. Sheis adding facts for a total of 4, as well as an armory. Protoss seems clearly ahead with 6 gates or so and his min only done.
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Tl.net fucking up REALLY bad for me right now, so I'm done with reporting
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nooooo, go on pls
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add psy or arbiter or you are screwed @ lucifer oo
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Blah...ok. Lucifer with a near limit army vs sheis near limit army of his own mass tanks blast most of it apart but Lucifer has 5 bases to sheis's 4 as well as carriers and storm. Lucifer also has the double gas main at 9. Lucifer making carriers from 2 stargates. Hes currently outnumbered by Sheis but its anyones game so far...ouch he loses a carrier.
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who are winning guys ? i can't watch mbc -.-!
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TheFoReveRwaR u rock man, thx 
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lucifer forgot to bring his temps to the party and got decimated by mass tanks
Sheis's face is heavily scarred~
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soo u think sheis gonna win this ?
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The terran mass took out his min only and his northern gas expansion. However 2 carriers did stop sheis from taking the other double gas main. Lucifer showing nice macro though and he has a big army with 3 carrier support and templars. Hes taking down Sheis gas expo at 6! Sheis is in trouble! He will be low on gas soon. DTs did great damage earlier to Sheis standing army while TL was fucking up for me
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GO Luci Go ( I jsut watn more P in league )
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hard to say, lucifer is steadily increasing carrier numbers and he has a LOT of dt and temps
walks his army into a minefield tho, bad lucifer
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NOT 2 TERRANS, PLEASE, COME ONNNNNN LUCIFERR.
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The game could go either way now as Sheis takes down the nexus at the 9 main.
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soo how the game going now -.- ??
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HOLY SHIT MINE
terran demonstrates why it's NOT a good idea to be hovering over your own mines
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Lucifer not paying attention and he lose 2 carriers to gols for almost nothing. Shies still has no gas expands though. Gols take down another carrier. The 3 main is officially going down. Lucier has retaken the mid northern gas expo. A dt sneaks around and starts killing scvs at shies min only but itsdealt with. HOLY SHIT! Some dts cause some mines to go off in the MIDDLE of the terran ball! They blow up almost all of sheis army ! LOL
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i saw those DT bombs in my 1 second of stream every 10 hrs that was nice ^_^;
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2 Carriers kill sheis ebay and they pick away the last gols at the top of the map. Haha dt triggers mines again that kill 2 tanks and a vult. Almost killing a 3rd tank. Sloppy carrier control yet again as a carrier falls to 4 gols or so. 4 archons come out and manage to barely beat the terran army. Close game...Sheis is almost mined out with his current expos though.
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Hes got one up at 6 though. But just as the scvs transfer 2 archons and goon take it down and slaughter some scvs.
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51471 Posts
Lucifer looks really bad in terms of cash, but GOD, awesome game.
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exp down for sheis -_-
nice nice +_+
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The 2 hero archons clear the map of mines and another joins..a carrier helps kill the last tank and they move in with a temp...winning the fight and paving the way for victory.
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Sheis is now in desperate mode, pumping vults now.
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I want a torrent of this game / group asap if possible, really curious about Lucifer\'s play.
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Sheis ggs as a 3 goon 2 archon 1 temp and 1 carrier army seals the game, hammering down facts in sheis main. GG
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Mexico1178 Posts
OMG SICK GAME... if only every PVT were like this one..
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HAHAH what a dope game. damn lucifer is mini Nal_rA
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51471 Posts
God, Lucifer looked like he was going to shit his pants when Sheis typed gg.
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lucifer's attacking sheis's main factories with 2 archons and a carrier and sheis isn't doing anything about it; looks like he has no units.
then he ggs.
woww, I thought Lucifer was boned when he didn't bring his temps along and lost a huge chunk of his army without killing much tanks but man
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thedeadhaji
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oh man that has to hurt for sheis so much. Full control of the game for so long, and even when he couldnt secure expos, he had the lead until lucifer dragged mines like 5x onto his stuff.
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Nice game, excellent DT and archon use by lucifer, def deserved it (despite not keeping track of his carriers like 3-4 times D: )
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lol, i didn't believe he could win. great dt use but pathetic carrier micro....
but everything is better, than another boring terran!
btw this terran seemed to be afk the last 5 min ftw
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That was really entertaining but honestly the play quality wasnt all that great on either side Still, pretty sweet game though
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At least I predicted 1 "advancer" right T_T!
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On August 07 2007 04:29 thedeadhaji wrote:
oh man that has to hurt for sheis so much. Full control of the game for so long, and even when he couldnt secure expos, he had the lead until lucifer dragged mines like 5x onto his stuff.
Lol ya. 2 words sheis. Science. Vessel. Also Lucifer holding the double gas main at 9 for a while really helped.
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HOLY SHIT, that was pimpest play material right there, to LURE back Sheis' army to kill that lone DT killing SCV's, to ofcourse most of Sheis' army blowing up into smitherines.
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Mexico1178 Posts
so no more matches right now.. gnite ppl
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It wouldve been more pimp if it wasnt pure luck though Well not "pure luck", but more of a massive fuck up by sheis.
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Yay a Protoss has advanced
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Oh hell yeah, now there was a PvT worth watching.
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GJ! :-) can't wait to see that VOD.
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Here's the DT Mine Bomb... Commentators aren't very exicted, not even a slight change in tone after the bomb. They are either very tired or very bored. If it was Boxer or something, there would be mass screaming going :-)
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On August 07 2007 04:49 VioleTAK wrote:Here's the DT Mine Bomb... Commentators aren't very exicted, not even a slight change in tone after the bomb. They are either very tired or very bored. If it was Boxer or something, there would be mass screaming going :-)
Saw it live but thank you! :D!
o.o
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On August 07 2007 04:49 VioleTAK wrote:Here's the DT Mine Bomb... Commentators aren't very exicted, not even a slight change in tone after the bomb. They are either very tired or very bored. If it was Boxer or something, there would be mass screaming going :-)
Well it IS a replay so......
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thedeadhaji
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I think they did let out a pretty nice "AHHHHHH" when it happened live?
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I just watched that video...holy cow, that was pimpest plays 2007 material, clearly. At least a nominee for sure.
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it was awesome not the best game ever just awesome to watch -_- and pimpy moves indeed ^_^;
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Oh right thats the rep. Well I didn't watch it live. Gotta see the VOD!
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On August 07 2007 05:02 thedeadhaji wrote:
I think they did let out a pretty nice "AHHHHHH" when it happened live?
save as *.wmv captured by rex (DCinside StarCraft gallery)
it's live version. that part is from 0:23 to 0:40
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That game was painful to watch.
Lucifer has the worst Carrier micro I have ever seen. I was cringing the entire match, especially when they kept showing the fact that he had 2 carriers and a huge block of troops sitting in his base idol for what seemed like 10 minutes.
If it wasn't for his dt heroics, he would have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. That said that one dt mine play was insane. I dunno if it was pure luck or if he really had something like that planned, but either way it was sweet.
Also I happy to see a non terran player advance!
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yakii
Korea (South)1448 Posts
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thanks yakii! just saw the last part of game 5, that was awesome! (well, not that awesome but really intense!)
i mean... i was, ok, let's just quick check the last part of the vod and was "oh, nice, another terran into msl..." and fast foward to the end and saw lucifer won "wtf? what happened? gotta see this!"
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That was a lot of blown up tanks to the mines...
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yakii
Korea (South)1448 Posts
On August 07 2007 08:25 PePe QuiCoSE wrote:thanks yakii! just saw the last part of game 5, that was awesome! (well, not that awesome but really intense!) + Show Spoiler +i mean... i was, ok, let's just quick check the last part of the vod and was "oh, nice, another terran into msl..." and fast foward to the end and saw lucifer won "wtf? what happened? gotta see this!"
hahaha that game was really fun to watch.
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Are Lucifer and Flash twin brothers? They are on same team, born on same day , and have the same name...awkward.
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Wtf was Jju doing in that Monty game.
Worst display from a pro ever.
Ever.
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On August 07 2007 13:37 atmablade wrote:
Are Lucifer and Flash twin brothers? They are on same team, born on same day , and have the same name...awkward.
If your mom named you Bob, would she proceed to name your twin brother Bob as well?
-.-;;
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just seems crazy that they both have the same name, born same day, both same team =/
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On August 07 2007 20:52 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2007 13:37 atmablade wrote:
Are Lucifer and Flash twin brothers? They are on same team, born on same day , and have the same name...awkward. If your mom named you Bob, would she proceed to name your twin brother Bob as well? -.-;;
No, his dad did, or they are long lost twins. I was confused also by the same birthday. But in vod, he has non-identical face.
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