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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-06 19:32:06
August 06 2007 17:07 GMT
#1
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Players/Matches

Ever)T(Sheis (STX, Terran)

Sheis is a great player as long as its about Terran vs Zerg. His Terran vs Protoss is not close to the top Terran vs Protoss. To state my argument with some facts:

TvP Record: 3 wins - 3 losses (50.00%)

His wins were against Kingdom, Pusan and fOru.. not the worst Protoss players, but aged Protoss players.

LuCifer[Name] (KTF, Protoss)

I cannot say much about him, since I've never seen him play in a match - besides amateur and semi pro games that is.

PvT Record: 0-0 (Offcourse)

Since he is really young and for me known for his good dt and reaver usage I will give him the edge over Sheis on Monty hall - a map which needs a good "spirit".

Prediction

LuCifer[Name] > Ever)T(Sheis


JJu (Samsung, Zerg)

JJu is a known, but not one of the very best players. He has to face a Terran today, which is not very confortable for him, since his record vs Terran is amazingly bad. (Even worse than Childs).

ZvT Record: 0-4 (0%)

Besides the fact that he is 0-4, I still believe that he cann pull of an upset vs forGG_V , who is the favorite to me, even if his Terran vs Zerg is not good ads well.

forGG_V (Lecaf, Terran)

To start of with forGG_V I want to mention his performance seems to be really stuttering. He won over GGPlay, but lost to Clon.. (not much to say here, huh?)

TvZ Record: 4-4 (50%)

As I mentioned before, I'm giving the mass ling user JJu the edge over him on Monty Hall.

Prediction

JJu > forGG_V

Further Match Prediction

Zerg
Terran
Protoss


Ever)T(Sheis < LuCifer[Name]
JJu > fOrGG_V
JJu > LuCifer[Name] (Winners Match)
Ever)T(Sheis > forGG_V (Losers Match)
LuCifer[Name] > Ever)T(Sheis

JJu and LuCifer[Name] advance to MSL!

Results:
+ Show Spoiler +

Ever)T(Sheis < LuCifer[Name]
JJu < fOrGG_V
LuCifer[Name] < fOrGG_V (Winners Match)
JJu < Ever)T(Sheis (Losers Match)
Ever)T(Sheis < LuCifer[Name] (Loser Winners Match vs Winner Losers Match)

fOrGG_V and LuCifer[Name] advance!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-06 17:13:42
August 06 2007 17:12 GMT
#2
Personally, I'd be highly surprised if the two terrans don't make it out :O

Sheis > Lucifer
ForGG > Jju
Sheis > ForGG
Jju > Lucifer
ForGG > Jju

edit: I guess maps might be homo though
Presony-Boy
Profile Joined April 2007
Israel812 Posts
August 06 2007 17:16 GMT
#3
prediction:

Ever)T(Sheis > LuCifer[Name]
JJu < ForGG_V
Ever)T(Sheis < fOrGG_V
JJu > LuCifer[Name]
Ever)T(Sheis > JJu

Hwasin fan since 15 February 2007 - Hwasin/Calm/Kal Fighting~!
Red_Dragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Croatia2862 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-06 17:25:59
August 06 2007 17:23 GMT
#4
Nice opening post

More than anything I would like to see JJu advance. He has been one of my favorite zergs since forever. Unfortunately, he is playing bad for the longer time now. JJu was always notable in proleague, but nowadays he rarely plays. JJu is not as sharp as he used to be, but I support him with all of my heart. GO JJu!



Climbing walls of an endless circle
Aepplet
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden2908 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-06 17:25:25
August 06 2007 17:24 GMT
#5
it seems to me that your predicitions always defy all logic and reasoning?

Sheis is a reasonably accomplished player and Lucifer is an unwritten card. Even though Lucifer could very well win I don't see any reason to predict any other outcome than Sheis coming through here?

As for JJu, given the map and his current form, I'd call him the underdog here. Given I'm a big fan of the Straight Zerg i hope your "prediction" (looks more like a wish list?) comes true!

this is what will happen (i'm going to eat this later lol):
Sheis > Lucifer
forGG > JJu
Sheis > forGG
Lucifer > JJu (he might, just might win this one though)
forGG > whoever

sry if it came out as kinda harsh but sometimes i'm puzzled by the how groundless predictions these days seem to be (kinda like some people always going with the underdog in the liquibet section).

JJU FIGHTING!!!

EDIT: fuck, 3 people beat me to it...
Red_Dragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Croatia2862 Posts
August 06 2007 17:25 GMT
#6
Sheis > Lucifer
ForGG > Jju
Sheis < ForGG
Jju > Lucifer
Shies < Jju
Climbing walls of an endless circle
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 06 2007 17:25 GMT
#7
Ill just say that I think ForGG and Jju will advance.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 06 2007 17:26 GMT
#8
On August 07 2007 02:23 Red_Dragon wrote:
Nice opening post



Thank you very much..!

On August 07 2007 02:23 Red_Dragon wrote:

More than anything I would like to see JJu advance. He has been one of my favorite zerg since forever. Unfortunately he is playing bad for the longer time now. JJu was always notable in proleague, but nowadays he rarely plays. JJu is not as sharp as he used to be, but I support him with all of my heart. GO JJu!


I totally agree with you. I'm Terran but I love the way JJu playes. He playes so aggressiv and fast. I want JJu to advance too !
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 06 2007 17:30 GMT
#9
On August 07 2007 02:24 Aepplet wrote:
it seems to me that your predicitions always defy all logic and reasoning?

Sheis is a reasonably accomplished player and Lucifer is an unwritten card. Even though Lucifer could very well win I don't see any reason to predict any other outcome than Sheis coming through here?

As for JJu, given the map and his current form, I'd call him the underdog here. Given I'm a big fan of the Straight Zerg i hope your "prediction" (looks more like a wish list?) comes true!

this is what will happen (i'm going to eat this later lol):
Sheis > Lucifer
forGG > JJu
Sheis > forGG
Lucifer > JJu (he might, just might win this one though)
forGG > whoever

sry if it came out as kinda harsh but sometimes i'm puzzled by the how groundless predictions these days seem to be (kinda like some people always going with the underdog in the liquibet section).

JJU FIGHTING!!!

EDIT: fuck, 3 people beat me to it...



I don't blame your for being harsh. Its totally okay for me. And you are right too, I'm going with the underdogs here , what does not mean they cannot win. JJu is a smart player and on Monty Hall you have to play smart.
I'm not only judging by the records of the players, also by styles.
LuCifer was very well known on PGTOUR (A+ 87%?) and his amazing PvT (even if its just vs semi pros or amateur gamer) His PvT was like 90% !
We will see what happens.

Anyway, thank you for your opinion (serious, not ironic). Maybe my predictions are a bit odd, because I'm in a hurry also, I wrote it @ work !
Next time I will have more time to analyze the records etc.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
frs
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland60 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-06 17:32:07
August 06 2007 17:31 GMT
#10
sc2.org down?

http://www.yaoyuan.com/live.php has such a small window :|
Aepplet
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden2908 Posts
August 06 2007 17:32 GMT
#11
exactly, what does not mean they cannot win, but predictions is all about who is more likely to win =)
Aepplet
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden2908 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-06 17:34:19
August 06 2007 17:33 GMT
#12
On August 07 2007 02:31 frs wrote:
sc2.org down?

http://www.yaoyuan.com/live.php has such a small window :|


no it's up?

EDIT: ok now i see what you mean, yeah it's not working =/
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 06 2007 17:34 GMT
#13
How to install Daum Player:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=56443

Or just download GOMPlayer:

http://gom.gomtv.com/
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 06 2007 17:37 GMT
#14
KTF' protoss are all pure sex!^^
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Aepplet
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden2908 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-06 17:39:22
August 06 2007 17:38 GMT
#15
lol, lucifer is hot! reminds me of Crocus except he's not chubby!

EDIT: lol i got beat to it again...
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 06 2007 17:39 GMT
#16
...
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Aepplet
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden2908 Posts
August 06 2007 17:41 GMT
#17
no reporting?

monty hall

lucifer top
sheis bottom

cc near mid mineral wall for sheis, fast citadel for lucifer
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-06 17:44:19
August 06 2007 17:43 GMT
#18
Nevermind, got it
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
August 06 2007 17:44 GMT
#19
I like this dudes style O_O

he just forced sheis to D up with a couple goons and some real nice micro.. dts about to pop out. i think it might outright end the game(maybe).
Broom
Aepplet
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden2908 Posts
August 06 2007 17:44 GMT
#20
sheis cc near mid was a fake, he's floating it to the top lane instead. lucifer sees right through it (with his probe lol) and sends 2 goons down that lane. addon on 1st fact, 2nd building. archives coming up for lucifer! marines and scv battle goons, all marines die before bunker is up! tank out, takes on 2 goons as 8 scv repair it! 2nd addon done. i think lucifer is expoing top lane as well. dt out!
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