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Ziggy
South Korea2103 Posts
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whylessness
United States374 Posts
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Ziggy
South Korea2103 Posts
action >RB< stork free >shakuras< miso soulkey >poly< rush flash >eclipse< zero | ||
AttackZerg
United States7453 Posts
I hope we get a game 4. | ||
RKC
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AttackZerg
United States7453 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7453 Posts
Maybe it holds if reinforced. | ||
AttackZerg
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MinixTheNerd
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whylessness
United States374 Posts
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oEkY
Germany641 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7453 Posts
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RKC
2847 Posts
On January 26 2021 19:33 oEkY wrote: 3-0 to Login - flash vs zero denied! that works too! anti hype best hype! | ||
AttackZerg
United States7453 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7453 Posts
Solid AF. Game 4 ~ hype! | ||
RKC
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AttackZerg
United States7453 Posts
On January 26 2021 19:54 AttackZerg wrote: Free of old is Back. Solid AF. Game 4 ~ hype! | ||
AttackZerg
United States7453 Posts
Game 4 ~ Hype! (edit: weird late night double post.) | ||
TdX
Singapore290 Posts
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LpTraxamillion
251 Posts
ZvT is feeling rough again. Vs 2 hatch the t can always afford enough turrets to not take real damage if placed right and the first push is very difficult for z to hold. I honestly thought SK played an excellent game watching his fpov. If he stops those 3 rines and earlier pulls drones during the first attack (back up to his main - but then he prob loses the hatch) I suppose he can tech faster and possibly get swarm in time. Felt like his micro and timings were on point. | ||
RKC
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MinixTheNerd
200 Posts
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LpTraxamillion
251 Posts
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LpTraxamillion
251 Posts
Thought that was 3-1 tho? | ||
TdX
Singapore290 Posts
On January 26 2021 20:33 RKC wrote: What's up with Zerg today. Is it Christmas on Char or what? Huge econ advantage by Flash as Zero couldn't damage Flash's mineral line | ||
KarlHungus1908
67 Posts
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LpTraxamillion
251 Posts
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RKC
2847 Posts
On January 26 2021 20:22 LpTraxamillion wrote: Rush battling light for the #2 terran spot, he is so good now. ZvT is feeling rough again. Vs 2 hatch the t can always afford enough turrets to not take real damage if placed right and the first push is very difficult for z to hold. I honestly thought SK played an excellent game watching his fpov. If he stops those 3 rines and earlier pulls drones during the first attack (back up to his main - but then he prob loses the hatch) I suppose he can tech faster and possibly get swarm in time. Felt like his micro and timings were on point. SK played well. But not sure why he separated his muta flocks into two before the attack. Then he didn't really use the smaller flock well, like cutting off reinforcements or harassing. Maybe Rush just shut down any opening. His wandering lurkers died for nothing. Looked like he was trying to be too clever in the end, and got caught in two minds. | ||
Highgamer
1346 Posts
Later, if I saw it correctly, he flew his whole flock of mutas right into Flash's m&m-ball, just when Flash was gearing up to pressure his 3rd. Those mutas were neede desperately to buy time for defiler/nydus to finish. Imo it often comes down to these small situations in TvZ midgames. Had Flash lost another group of M&M reinforcements it could've taken a different turn. | ||
TdX
Singapore290 Posts
On January 26 2021 20:33 MinixTheNerd wrote: wow do you still send queen to face flash in ace after that game? yeah... the team had no choice. hopefully, some mind games by both sides can spice it up! | ||
LpTraxamillion
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LpTraxamillion
251 Posts
On January 26 2021 20:39 Highgamer wrote: Zero was in Flash's nat once with bunch of lings and Flash's m&m out on the map, but Zero opted to pull out again right away to save his lings. Could've been a chance to do dmg/buy time, in hindsight obviously. Later, if I saw it correctly, he flew his whole flock of mutas right into Flash's m&m-ball, just when Flash was gearing up to pressure his 3rd. Those mutas were neede desperately to buy time for defiler/nydus to finish. Imo it often comes down to these small situations in TvZ midgames. Had Flash lost another group of M&M reinforcements it could've taken a different turn. Yea I thought he was going to suicide the lings onto the turrets so he could get behind the mins and do some econ damage | ||
Ziggy
South Korea2103 Posts
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MinixTheNerd
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RKC
2847 Posts
On January 26 2021 20:39 Highgamer wrote: Zero was in Flash's nat once with bunch of lings and Flash's m&m out on the map, but Zero opted to pull out again right away to save his lings. Could've been a chance to do dmg/buy time, in hindsight obviously. Later, if I saw it correctly, he flew his whole flock of mutas right into Flash's m&m-ball, just when Flash was gearing up to pressure his 3rd. Those mutas were neede desperately to buy time for defiler/nydus to finish. Imo it often comes down to these small situations in TvZ midgames. Had Flash lost another group of M&M reinforcements it could've taken a different turn. Yeah, I was rather surprised by Zero's pull-back. He usually seems more aggressive in taking early trades. Yes, that skirmish probably snowballed into Flash's favour. Small margins! | ||
MinixTheNerd
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TdX
Singapore290 Posts
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LpTraxamillion
251 Posts
On January 26 2021 20:46 TdX wrote: this game should be more competitive as Flash went rax first Did he 14cc last game? I was watching Zero's pov That would explain a lot | ||
RKC
2847 Posts
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TdX
Singapore290 Posts
On January 26 2021 20:47 LpTraxamillion wrote: Show nested quote + On January 26 2021 20:46 TdX wrote: this game should be more competitive as Flash went rax first Did he 14cc last game? I was watching Zero's pov That would explain a lot Totally... and took as good as nil economy damage. | ||
TdX
Singapore290 Posts
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RKC
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MinixTheNerd
200 Posts
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LpTraxamillion
251 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia12660 Posts
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MinixTheNerd
200 Posts
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LpTraxamillion
251 Posts
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MinixTheNerd
200 Posts
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MinixTheNerd
200 Posts
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LpTraxamillion
251 Posts
On January 26 2021 21:03 MinixTheNerd wrote: Is the wraith build up normal in a 1-1-1 vs 2 hatch mutas? It is an option, probably not optimal but I guess u have to switch it up sometimes. I've definitely seen Zero lose to it before. However, zero got super early overlord speed and made no hydras which led to flash getting wrecked. Flash's turrets were also kinda late, may not have expected speed that quick iono | ||
TdX
Singapore290 Posts
On January 26 2021 21:03 MinixTheNerd wrote: Is the wraith build up normal in a 1-1-1 vs 2 hatch mutas? Can't remember how it should be played, but wraiths just are not good vs mutas and should be attacking instead of defending to keep the mutas at home. | ||
Highgamer
1346 Posts
On January 26 2021 21:03 MinixTheNerd wrote: Is the wraith build up normal in a 1-1-1 vs 2 hatch mutas? I may not be up to date with the latest developments on those builds, but last time I dug into this, 2hatch actually was becoming more dominant because it was a (soft-)counter to Flash's new 1-1-1 that was destroying 3hatch builds. Against 2hatch, you can hardly get out 1-2 cloaked wraiths and a few turrets and marines in time to defend. And you have to delay your vessel tech because you need cloaked wraiths or you die. | ||
LpTraxamillion
251 Posts
On January 26 2021 21:01 RowdierBob wrote: Damn, flash was so dominant in game four then got absolutely wrecked in the Ace. BW is a funny game. Well 14cc is basically Terran cheese. It gets way ahead vs 12 hatch off the bat. Anyone know the lineups for the next set? | ||
JohnnyBlaze420
Australia806 Posts
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LpTraxamillion
251 Posts
Btw, did effort get cosmetic surgery or something? He looks way different since he got back from the military. I hardly recognize him now | ||
RKC
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RKC
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MinixTheNerd
200 Posts
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MinixTheNerd
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LpTraxamillion
251 Posts
Basically a slightly less clean version of the zero/flash ace match | ||
LpTraxamillion
251 Posts
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MinixTheNerd
200 Posts
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LpTraxamillion
251 Posts
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MinixTheNerd
200 Posts
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LpTraxamillion
251 Posts
On January 26 2021 22:07 MinixTheNerd wrote: wait did that hydra den snipe deny the lurker upgrade? Thought it was range Who is the t here? | ||
RKC
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MinixTheNerd
200 Posts
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LpTraxamillion
251 Posts
So snow vs soma ace? | ||
MinixTheNerd
200 Posts
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oxKnu
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ggsimida
1100 Posts
On January 26 2021 22:47 oxKnu wrote: Carariyo has to be ones of the worst put-together teams for this kind of event. 3 Protosses on one team - vulnerable no matter the players. they did beat socrates team 3:0 with all protosses and this series their protosses are 2-1 atm. its not that bad | ||
LpTraxamillion
251 Posts
Snow almost broke out | ||
oxKnu
1128 Posts
On January 26 2021 22:52 ggsimida wrote: Show nested quote + On January 26 2021 22:47 oxKnu wrote: Carariyo has to be ones of the worst put-together teams for this kind of event. 3 Protosses on one team - vulnerable no matter the players. they did beat socrates team 3:0 with all protosses and this series their protosses are 2-1 atm. its not that bad Yes it is. The following two games exhibited this in full display. | ||
RKC
2847 Posts
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ggsimida
1100 Posts
On January 26 2021 23:09 oxKnu wrote: Show nested quote + On January 26 2021 22:52 ggsimida wrote: On January 26 2021 22:47 oxKnu wrote: Carariyo has to be ones of the worst put-together teams for this kind of event. 3 Protosses on one team - vulnerable no matter the players. they did beat socrates team 3:0 with all protosses and this series their protosses are 2-1 atm. its not that bad Yes it is. The following two games exhibited this in full display. soma winning v snow was not bad, its expected. genuinely think they shld have send shuttle again since he won the first soma game and could get into his head. best v ruin. look like best just had a bad day. also i would take ruin's games with a pinch of salt, a few of his comptitive games are...strange to say the least | ||
Rus_Brain
Russian Federation1888 Posts
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oxKnu
1128 Posts
On January 27 2021 00:03 ggsimida wrote: Show nested quote + On January 26 2021 23:09 oxKnu wrote: On January 26 2021 22:52 ggsimida wrote: On January 26 2021 22:47 oxKnu wrote: Carariyo has to be ones of the worst put-together teams for this kind of event. 3 Protosses on one team - vulnerable no matter the players. they did beat socrates team 3:0 with all protosses and this series their protosses are 2-1 atm. its not that bad Yes it is. The following two games exhibited this in full display. soma winning v snow was not bad, its expected. genuinely think they shld have send shuttle again since he won the first soma game and could get into his head. best v ruin. look like best just had a bad day. also i would take ruin's games with a pinch of salt, a few of his comptitive games are...strange to say the least It's PvP Bo1, the margins are almost always pretty thin. It doesn't really matter unless your name is 'Rain'. | ||
Ziggy
South Korea2103 Posts
On January 27 2021 00:35 Rus_Brain wrote: Ohhh! Our team lost! clearly means they need a teamhouse | ||
Doughboy
United States721 Posts
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Samsakzerg
61 Posts
On January 26 2021 21:27 LpTraxamillion wrote: I hope I get to see effort finally win a game Btw, did effort get cosmetic surgery or something? He looks way different since he got back from the military. I hardly recognize him now he got some sort of a weird webcam filter to smooth out his skin on cam... come on South Korea...i don't get some things they do at all... | ||
oxKnu
1128 Posts
Just be natural man, wth.. | ||
asel
Germany1597 Posts
On January 27 2021 07:30 Doughboy wrote: Is there any place to catch the vods for these games / the ASTL in general? I'm also interested. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19033 Posts
On January 27 2021 22:55 asel wrote: Show nested quote + On January 27 2021 07:30 Doughboy wrote: Is there any place to catch the vods for these games / the ASTL in general? I'm also interested. If you can't find the games in the smallVods section of BW, they are here too https://www.sc2links.com/tournament/?match=678 | ||
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