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On November 02 2020 20:36 prosatan wrote: 4-1 gg !
at least we will have Flash vs Larva in the match for 3rd place !
Oh snap! I forgot about this... Well that's a fun event to look forward to
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Russian Federation484 Posts
On November 02 2020 20:24 Sif_ wrote: Oh, its cause tastosis mentioned that controlling got much harder after 11 mutas.. they never mentioned the need for an overlord in there aswell, haha i'm pretty sure they mentioned it even this cast oh well, larva tried. has a seed, but before season was talking about this being his last idk whenever I open his stream he is tryharding his heart out, be it Z or T
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On November 02 2020 20:35 M3t4PhYzX wrote: looks like we are going to have a repeat champion that is not FlaSh..
first time since 2011-12 OSL JangBi if I remember correctly.
or is SoMa's ZvZ actually good enough to take out ZerO?
ZvZ can always go one way or the other tbh. Soma's ZvZ is pretty darn good and given the match up it's pretty much a 50-50 imho.
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Flash vs Larva will probably draw a fuck ton of more viewers than lol zvz. I'll steill watch the finals. I'm interested in seeing Soma vs Queen.
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who do you guys favor in Flash vs Larva & Soma vs Zero?
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Looks like the only way to beat Queen in a ZvZ is to show up and play better. What a brutal reality. He controls every factor as well as he can and mitigates risk in such a controled calm manner.
Soma is going to need to play so good to beat Queen.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49884 Posts
On November 02 2020 20:40 Sif_ wrote: who do you guys favor in Flash vs Larva & Soma vs Zero? Flash and Soma
but ZerO will likely win.
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3rd place match probably going to be a much more interesting affair than the grand finals.. :D but I'm still going to watch both ofc
maybe a miracle will actually happen and a wild hive tech ZvZ will appear
fingers crossed!
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Queen's muta micro is too good. He even threw the first game. I can't see him losing this ASL.
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Queen! Is this the first back to back finals for someone not Flash?
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On November 02 2020 20:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 20:40 Sif_ wrote: who do you guys favor in Flash vs Larva & Soma vs Zero? Flash and Soma but ZerO will likely win.
Wait you think Soma has the advantage but Zero will likely win? Or do you want Soma to win and think it will be Zero?
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49884 Posts
On November 02 2020 20:47 Miragee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 20:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:On November 02 2020 20:40 Sif_ wrote: who do you guys favor in Flash vs Larva & Soma vs Zero? Flash and Soma but ZerO will likely win. Wait you think Soma has the advantage but Zero will likely win? Or do you want Soma to win and think it will be Zero?
Want soma, think zero will win
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konadora
Singapore66145 Posts
silver lining is, i’m glad its flash vs larva because those 2 always made for some crazy games
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49884 Posts
On November 02 2020 21:58 konadora wrote: silver lining is, i’m glad its flash vs larva because those 2 always made for some crazy games
I want to see Flash do a footstargamer on Larva.
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On November 02 2020 20:15 Sif_ wrote: you cant hotkey more than 11 units in broodwar? is that where the difficulty comes from?
edit: can you select more than 11 if you box-click them?
Its 12 units.
And no, there is no way to control more than 12 units at one time.
And yes, that is where a significant amount of difficulty comes from.
And you can only select a single building at a time.
And say you have 4 high-templars selected and cast storm, they all cast storm. There is no "smartcasting". You have to cast your spells with only 1 unit selected.
And the AI, pathing and targeting is so dumb and clunky so you have to actively control your units way more than in modern RTS games.
The combination of these factors make the skill spread insane.
I really enjoyed the zvzs today, Larva did get a bit stomped but there were exciting moments and interesting build orders facing off.
When Queen canceled that sunken I was so mad!
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On November 02 2020 20:40 Sif_ wrote: who do you guys favor in Flash vs Larva & Soma vs Zero? Larva and zero !
My LB is on them!
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I see Mutal,
I see Ling,
Don't see other god damn thing...
I'll at least try to tune in to the finals and so should you! Let's hope Soma can make Zero break some sweat.
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ZvZ is viewers praying for Hive 
Honestly, I can enjoy some ZvZs, but there is no way that any developer today would leave a matchup be where only three units are used. For further insult, ZvZ is likely a mirror with the highest potential of all mirrors by far (defensive power of the Lurker).
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It was very funny when Artosis joked how Tasteless was gesticulating with his hands while they were not on camera, and then the next time they were shown they both started to dramatise what they were saying with gestures and movements. I'm sure it was something of an in-joke for them but I laughed real hard.
As for the games, I was a ZvZ snoozer 10 years ago but as of the past 2-3 years I started to enjoy the intensity and brutality of it more and more. Queen is hellish but Larva made him work real hard. I do think it might be revolutionary finals or at least I hope so. I regard these two as the best Z's throughout the year. Queen should win it! Woongjin Stars forever fighting~~~~
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The games were rather enjoyable. I understand how and why ZvZ can be repulsive but when it's played by such skilled players that squeeze the maximum of the units involved it is to me as thrilling as any other match up. In truth and in my view give bad players to play and the game looks absurd but when in the right hands it's like a most beautiful symphony. ZvZ finals are fine for me and I can hardly wait for them.
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