EPTI think The Infested Terran would be appropriate if he wins ZvZs in the final.
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
I think The Infested Terran would be appropriate if he wins ZvZs in the final. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22046 Posts
On October 19 2020 02:42 Antisocialmunky wrote: His current nickname of Ultimate Weapon seems appropriate when he has the highest winrate for Terran, Protross, Zerg and Random :pWhat's Flash's new nickname now? I think Nick called him the Shapeshifter. I think The Infested Terran would be appropriate if he wins ZvZs in the final. or simply God. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7465 Posts
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
On October 18 2020 21:51 Golgotha wrote: If soma can beat snow and Soulkey loses... I can see Flash winning this tournament. It would go down as one of the greatest esport accomplishments of all time. Let's go Flash! Still can't believe hundreds of thousands are watching LoL instead of flash flexing on the entire scene. Yeah I get faker is good but damn... He is Nowhere near the dominance and skill of flash. Not even fking close. Edit: I know that faker ain't even in worlds not that hard to understand, League is easily one of the 5 most popular esports in the world, and RTS games aren't close to that level. Flash played game 2 differently than I've seen other players in his situation, I wonder if he was just so far ahead he knew he had a guaranteed victory after his first push no matter what he did , or if he thinks that's the best way to play that position while even. | ||
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Athinira
Denmark33 Posts
On October 18 2020 23:14 Blargh wrote: This man hasn't lost a map as Random in Broodwar. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? He actually has. Before ASL, there were some showmatches a little over 2 months ago. Obviously he's gotten better since. | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
On October 19 2020 03:35 Malongo wrote: man flash makes BW boring to watch :/ It's the opposite for me, Flash makes BW so interesting. He plays at such a different level from other players. I'm interested to see how he will play RvZ, since he said it was his weakest matchup. | ||
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Miragee
8623 Posts
On October 19 2020 03:35 Malongo wrote: man flash makes BW boring to watch :/ Yeah same. I mean yes, he is absolutely impressive but I just can't bring myself to care or get excited at all. Also matches with random suck. | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
On October 19 2020 03:50 Nemesis wrote: It's the opposite for me, Flash makes BW so interesting. He plays at such a different level from other players. I'm interested to see how he will play RvZ, since he said it was his weakest matchup. On October 19 2020 03:59 Miragee wrote: Yeah same. I mean yes, he is absolutely impressive but I just can't bring myself to care or get excited at all. Also matches with random suck. Yeah he is super good. It's basically like watching Leela against a 2000 elo chess player. Today Rush was bashed and he looked super depressed too. May as well make him play against BW alpha zero now that think of it. (Flash) | ||
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Highgamer
1444 Posts
On October 19 2020 03:35 Malongo wrote: man flash makes BW boring to watch :/ On October 19 2020 03:59 Miragee wrote: Yeah same. I mean yes, he is absolutely impressive but I just can't bring myself to care or get excited at all. Also matches with random suck. You could say that if he won 2-3 ASLs as random, but right now? Your excitement with the game must be on a low then... or it's a personal grudge against Flash or s.th. The best player in the world is making a crazy move to make his games not be easy to predict anymore for the first time in years... The guy is shattering one of the big, long-living BW certainties out there: "You cannot compete as random on the highest level since Koreans became really good" (somethings like that). If anything, it's that he is lacking real competition because the others somewhat stopped keeping up. One cannot be sure about these things, but I feel that the slight advantage that Flash had over his strong rivals at any point of his career is just looking bigger now because those rivals have lost steam (or are gone to other games/things)... I wonder if anyone still puts as much work into getting/staying good as Flash is. Still, he looked vulnerable in his PvT today at one point, a better Terran could've handled his shuttles better. Snow could've taken at least one game of him in the Ro16... He just made a rather basic mistake, not defending when he just had to defend. Flash's not unbeatable, it's just that the others are not crisp as they were, I feel... | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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Highgamer
1444 Posts
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
Game 1: Looked absolutely great from Flash. I really think this was his best game, his double bunker reaction to slow his opponent down was just on point. No complaints here. Game 2: His shuttle drops are a bit of a mixed bag for me. Definitely got damage done, but also lost a lot on these attacks. I feel like versus a stronger opponent he won't be able to get away with constantly throwing away shuttles/reavers/units like that. Similarly I don't think Flash's army control was top notch this game. Some of the engages were questionable. He was never really in risk of losing because his supply lead was just so much, but it felt like he won't be able to get away with those kind of engages in a more-even match. Game 3: Really early scout after basically delayed scouting in every other game of the tournament. Felt unlucky for Rush, but decent play from Flash. Not a lot was learned from this game. So after the 3 games today, I'm really only feeling super confident about his Terran. I think his Protoss definitely was showing some cracks. Since there aren't any T left in the tournament though, maybe the PvT cracks no longer matter. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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JoinTheRain
Bulgaria409 Posts
On October 19 2020 05:01 ExO_ wrote: I feel like versus a stronger opponent he won't be able to get away with constantly throwing away shuttles/reavers/units like that. This entire point collapses when you realize that the only stronger TvP player than Rush is likely Light and even that is dubious. There are no stronger TvP players than Rush and Light. Flash handled Rush with amazing grace. Even the drops you question to me somehow felt calculated and even losing he was never in a shaky position. And this was against CC first, the most economical opening. This BO5 was a gem, imo, a shining testament to his skill and understanding. | ||
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Lazyer
United States365 Posts
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KobraKay
Portugal4235 Posts
On October 19 2020 04:36 mierin wrote: I mean, didn't Flash literally lose to Zero last season as his main race? I mean I get he's a fantastic player but these whole "he's just bored of the game lol what a god solved starcraft" conversations are getting out of hand. Let's wait until he's won this season at least before starting down that road. Barely lost to zero being stubborn as fuck that he would win only on mind games (as per his own words). That's why last season's results are not really valued by many. A lot of good vT maps in the last few ASLs have also skewed people's perception without people even realizing, specially if the english cast doesnt focus a lot on this, people seem to either miss it or forget it. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On October 19 2020 05:30 JoinTheRain wrote: This entire point collapses when you realize that the only stronger TvP player than Rush is likely Light and even that is dubious. There are no stronger TvP players than Rush and Light. Flash handled Rush with amazing grace. Even the drops you question to me somehow felt calculated and even losing he was never in a shaky position. And this was against CC first, the most economical opening. This BO5 was a gem, imo, a shining testament to his skill and understanding. Unfortunately I’m no BW expert, in fact not even much of an educated layman. It wasn’t the cleanest win set 2, but were we seeing some the advantage of Flash being the greatest Terran of all time? Flash has a basically unparalleled knowledge of where the holes are where Terran are weak, and over years worked to fill and refine those builds and gameplay. I’m assuming his galaxy brain can parse the game state incredibly well and open up windows where he thinks the optimal way to win is, based off his peerless Terran. Windows maybe even top PvT players might choose not to go down, but may work. | ||
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whylessness
United States376 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
He could only win with cheese... until it turned out he could beat anyone in a long game, too. He may not have been mechanically perfect... but it didn't matter. He had maphacks in his head. He always did the right thing at the right time. Spectators complained that his opponents seemed to make unforced mistakes or choke... until at last people connected the dots and realized that losing isn't choking if Flash is the best, and it's not an unforced mistake if Flash forced the opponent to make it. I dunno how far he'll get with R, but I'm getting flashbacks. Edit: And if he loses in the Ro4 or finals, don't assume that his Random is done for. Flash didn't win his OSL as Terran either, but he never stops improving and he came back with a vengeance. He seems really serious about this. On October 19 2020 06:47 WombaT wrote: It wasn’t the cleanest win set 2, but were we seeing some the advantage of Flash being the greatest Terran of all time? Flash has a basically unparalleled knowledge of where the holes are where Terran are weak, and over years worked to fill and refine those builds and gameplay. This. It was a testament to how far you can go by "just" doing the right thing at the right time, every time. His vulture defense wasn't perfect. His army control wasn't perfect. Not every reaver/HT drop was a winner. But he reaps so many rewards by always playing the right card. | ||
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